Another apology

[Guest guest]

I am needing to apologize to Martin, and other members of the US military,

and anyone else I offended in the past with my outbursts against discussions

on this list which concerned Pres. Bush, Iraq, etc. Whatever our politics

individually, I'm really sorry I offended these persons.

 

In trying to learn to face aloneness, I have often "freaked out" in great

pain. It is these freak outs, yearnings, longings for a break from this long

silence in my life, that caused me to do many of the things I've done.

 

Now I am meditating on the soul in myself, I see a fire of spirit in my

heart, and I pray constantly to God, Spirit Guides, Angels, Gurus, etc., for

help in accepting my life as it is, and I chant the Maha Mantra, again,

after so many years away from it.

 

I am trying to sit in spiritual peace and do my work. As I do, I desire to

rectify my past mistakes, at least the ones I remember of recent times, and

try to heal whatever wound my word darts put into others' hearts.

 

I sincerely ask for forgiveness. Sincerely.

 

I don't think Martin is on this list anymore, and my email browers broke and

I replaced them, losing deleted stuff etc., so I don't have his email

address anymore. Can someone who does please forward it to me?

 

And if you know of anyone else whom I'm offended, could you let me know. I

really seek clearing of my mistakes, and I seek forgiveness.

 

I was selfish in that I thought "this" wouldn't happen to me, and I cried

about it for years. But God wants me more with him obviously, and now I'm

facing that.

 

Peace to you all,

 

Das Goravani

[Guest guest]

Das, et al,

 

>

> Das Goravani []

> Friday, October 18, 2002 11:38 AM

> gjlist

> [GJ] Another apology

>

> I am needing to apologize to Martin, and other members of the

> US military, and anyone else I offended in the past with my

outbursts

> against discussions on this list which concerned Pres. Bush, Iraq,

 

> etc. Whatever our politics individually, I'm really sorry I

offended these

> persons.

>

No apology is necessary, Das. I have been offended only once on this list -

not by you, I might add. It was a reference to "baby killers", probably

blurted

out blindly - I don't even remember who it was. We simply have different

perspectives, attitudes and experiences. That's the way of the world.

Without

these differences, it might be a bit boring. :-)

 

I really don't think ANY of us WANTS a war (with anyone). My opinion is

that,

historically speaking, Mr. Bush is handling this well - based on what I

know.

I have made comparisons between GWB and Winston Churchill, or so it would

appear on the surface. My comparison is actually about their similar

situations,

and how each of them is or has handled it. I am guessing that Mr. Bush,

probably

with the help of his aides has seen these same comparisons. I don't think

anyone

doubts that Saddam is dangerous, even without nukes, or bio-chemical

weapons.

What do you think Hitler would have done with them? And I realize that a

so-called

"pre-emptive" strike goes against past US policy, and even treaty

agreements. But,

and this is a big BUT, the current situation wasn't accounted for in past

policies or

treaties. So, as Churchill said of his/England's situation then, "I am

afraid we shall

be forced to choose between Shame and War. And I think we shall opt for

Shame,

with War thrown in for good measure."

 

And I really don't mean to offend anyone myself. If I have, I too,

apologize. Yet I

cannot ignore history. And nearly 30 years ago, I fought for what seemed an

ungrateful

nation, along with thousands of other young men. But it wasn't ungrateful -

it was

confused - as we were - about WHY we were fighting. This time we know.

 

> In trying to learn to face aloneness, I have often "freaked out"

in great

> pain. It is these freak outs, yearnings, longings for a break from

this long

> silence in my life, that caused me to do many of the things I've

done.

>

We all have our ghosts. But sometimes, they are there to help us, whether

it may

seem that way or not.

 

> Now I am meditating on the soul in myself, I see a fire of spirit

in my

> heart, and I pray constantly to God, Spirit Guides, Angels, Gurus,

etc.,

> for help in accepting my life as it is, and I chant the Maha

Mantra, again,

> after so many years away from it.

>

> I am trying to sit in spiritual peace and do my work. As I do, I

desire to

> rectify my past mistakes, at least the ones I remember of recent

times, and

> try to heal whatever wound my word darts put into others' hearts.

>

> I sincerely ask for forgiveness. Sincerely.

>

As I said, not necessary. But, if you need the process of asking

forgiveness,

consider it done. You, like everyone on the list, remain a friend. I have,

and

continue to learn from everyone here.

 

And I have a lesson for you now about friendship - I learned a long time ago

that

you may have friends with whom you never have cross words. But a friendship

is not truly tested until you do. If you remain friends afterward - THEN,

you know

you have a friend.

 

> I don't think Martin is on this list anymore, and my email

browsers broke and

> I replaced them, losing deleted stuff etc., so I don't have his

email address

> anymore. Can someone who does please forward it to me?

>

I am indeed still on the list - I have just been rather busy of late.

You'll see my

address above.

 

> And if you know of anyone else whom I'm offended, could you let me

know. I

> really seek clearing of my mistakes, and I seek forgiveness.

>

> I was selfish in that I thought "this" wouldn't happen to me, and

I cried

> about it for years. But God wants me more with him obviously, and

now I'm

> facing that.

>

None of us are perfect, my friend...

 

> Peace to you all,

>

> Das Goravani

>

....and to you...

 

Best Regards,

Martin Michaels

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