Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Dear Anne Thanks for the reference .I didn't realise that nodal aspects were a part of older additions of BPHS . Now I am clear as to why traditional jyotishis use them . Nicholas > > > Dear Wendy > I think I can resolve the question of nodal aspects to everyone's > satisfaction .On Page 39 of Sarvath Cintamini J N Bhasin quotes > the BPHS > with edition ,chapter and text where sage Parasara states that > Rahu casts aspects like Jupiter i.e 5th ,7th and 9th .So using nodal aspects > is a part of Parasara Jyotish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Dear Anne, Am more of a silent member here.. but there have been a few times nodal aspects have been discussed. It is a fact that the current BPHS as we know it is not complete. Many portions i guess were lost over a period of time. The nodal aspects issue becomes even more logical when we think as to what nodes desire. As far as censorship goes.... opinions and/or conditioning have never helped a person see the truth... so let them be. Regds Hari gjlist, "Anne Rutherford" <annelrutherford@h...> wrote: > > Dear List Members > A couple of weeks ago the question of nodal aspects came up .In this it was > originally claimed that nodal aspects were not part of Parasara Jyotish . > This text addresses that point . This text was originally sent to > jyotishvidya group but was censored by the moderator .Censorship is a common > tool in totalitarian states and it is surprising that it is has eneterd the > community of jyotishis who I thought believed in freedom of speech and > thinking .I am sorry to cross post but I am concerned that both sides of the > argument had missed an important point . > > Light and Peace > Anne > > > > > > Dear Wendy > I think I can resolve the question of nodal aspects to everyone's > satisfaction .On Page 39 of Sarvath Cintamini J N Bhasin quotes > the BPHS > with edition ,chapter and text where sage Parasara states that > Rahu casts aspects like Jupiter i.e 5th ,7th and 9th .So using nodal aspects > is a part of Parasara Jyotish Further comments on your post follow > > > > Nicholas and Sateesh > Anne's COMMENT why not dear ? These guys have given a lot to internet > jyotish .I've learned a lot from them . > > >As both your charts are in the public domain and therefore > >available for > > > >study and, as you have such striking similarities in your charts > >i.e., 9th > > > >house/9th lord afflicted by dusthana lord Saturn whilst karaka > >for 9th > > > >(Jupiter), fallen in Capricorn, is also conjunct dusthana lord, > >I'm sure > > > >you'll agree it will be a great learning experience to study your > >charts. > > > >I'm sure you'll both be gracious enough to offer your data to the > > > >list...many, I'm sure, already have it but some may not. > > > > > Anne's COMMENT I don't have Sateesh's chart but in Nicholas' chart > Jupiter is with Saturn that rules the 5th and 6th for Virgos .However as > Saturn is > placed in the 5th house so will act primarily as functionally > benefic .This > is according to Mantrsevara in Phala Dapeeka when a planet has > rulership of a dusthana and a non dusthana and is placed in it's non > dusthana > it will act > according to its non dusthana Lordship .So Saturn in 5 is good for > Virgos > .Saturn will act like the 5th Lord in association with Jupiter not > the 6th > .This is pretty basic jyotish . > The Saturn Jupiter conjunction is aspected by 9th Lord Venus so it > is very good for dharma,Guru and higher knowledge . > > Don't worry Nicholas Jupiter receives plenty of cancellation ofdebiliatation > .More important than Jupiter for evaluating Dharma > are the > trinal Lords .Nicholas has 1 in 1 ,5 in 5 and 9 in 11 aspecting > 5th house > and receiving aspect of RajaYoga 4th and 5th in 5 .In Navamsa the > 5th is in > 1 and the 1st and 9th form a Raja Yoga in 9 .So of the 6 dharmic > trinal Lords in Rasi and Navamsa 5 are placed in dharmic trinal houses .5 > out of 6 is pretty good but you could do better Nicholas :-) > > > > > > > > > >>In both charts Mercury (intellect) is afflicted...one fallen in > >Pisces the > > > >>other conjunct dusthana lord Mars. One would have to > >search far > > > >>and wide to find two such vociferous students of astrology with > >such > > > >>empathy in their charts...little wonder you both agree on most > >things and > > > >>little wonder you're both so opposed to the teachings of the > >Rishis... > > > >>I refer here to both ancient and modern-day Rishi's, whose > >teachings I've > > > >>been blessed to receive. > > > > Anne's comment : Nicholas' Mercury is extremely powerful being both > >exalted , in it's best dig bal and > on the rising degree .Here Wendy and I hope you take this the > right way > because you could not address Nicholas' arguments you are engaging > in argument ad hominem i.e attacking the person rather than the > argument.In > high school I was taught that this is a logical fallacy and a sure sign > someone is losing the argument . T he greatest scholar of Jyotish > in the > world is Pandit Sanjay Rath who uses nodal aspects . I think you > owe them > both an an apology because I do not recall them attacking you on > this > conference or any other jyotish conference I have d too . > > > > >>You're invited to respond, however your posts may take a > >little while to > > > come through as your mail now has to be approved before being > >posted to > > > the list. > > > > To quote John Anthony West if horse racing is the sport of kings > then book burning is the sport of dictators .I see nothing in Nicholas' > post > that > warrents this personal attack on him and censoring his well > thought out > contributions. And then not even what he has written but his > chart . I remember a while back Wendy you said that people should not be > attacked on their charts when did you change your mind ? > > Light and Peace > Anne > > > > > > - > > > Nicholas > > > JyotishVidya > > > Friday, October 11, 2002 11:51 PM > > > [JyotishVidya] Nodal Aspects > > > > > > > > > I have read through your article on nodal aspects .You have > >mainly based > > > your conclusion that the nodes do not cast aspects on BPHS . > > > There are major problems with this > > > > > > Historical research has shown that the current version > >of BPHS is > > > a modern compilation . Court astrologers in the middle ages who > >had access > > > to the entire libraries of the ruling Rajas did not have access to > >an extant > > > version of BPHS > > > > > > Unless your version of BPHS is dated 3000 BC it cannot be > >shown that > > > (1) It is what Parasara wrote > > > (2) That it does not have additions > > > (3) That it does not have omissions > > > (4) That it does not have alterations > > > > > > > > > So I do not want to discourage faith in Sage Parasara but > >just want to > > > clear common misconceptions . > > > _______________ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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