Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Dear Zoran, You wrote: <"Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as material aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm"> How would you judge Mars in the 12th/Cancer for a Leo lagna, were he is debilitated, Baadhaka and Yogakaraka al at the same time ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 3:31 PM Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Sateesh, > Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as material > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm, > There are double negatives theory. Have you ever found debilitated benefic do > good when placed in dusthana? > I have seen guru in debilitation for mituna lagna (8th house) doing much good to > do owner of the kundhali > Of course there should be no malefic aspect nor guru should be retrograde.. > Best wishes > Zoran > Sateesh Batas wrote: > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > Can you elaborate on this point? > > > > I thought (according to SJC rules, or is it Parasara or Jaimini?) a Malefic > > that is Debilitated (weak) can only cause LESS damage than a strong Malefic > > (strong Malefic can cause MORE damage)? > > > > So if it is posted in a Dushthana - does it again become capable of harming, > > even though weak in Debility? > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > ======== > > > > - > > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > > <gjlist> > > Monday, October 07, 2002 2:10 PM > > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > >: Om Namo Narayanaya, > >: Dear Neha, > >: Let's analyze Ketu in your chart > >: 1. Ketu is neecha or in debilitation. Debilitated malefic in dusthana (6th > >: house) is not good > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > -- > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > email: ahimsa > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 On the same note: A friend of mine has his chart as follows. Both Rahu and Ketu are away from the most effective points of houses. And they are alone in the houses mentioned below. How would a Debilitated Rahu in Scorpio in 4th house and a Debilitated Ketu in 10th house act? Say here Rahu is in Leo navamsa and Ketu is in Aquarius navamsa. He always complains of his bad luck that when ever he's about to achieve something some unexpected event happens and he loses to grab the result of his entire work. On spiritual front he says he's succeeding but materially he's toally drenched in debt, neck deep. Jay Weiss [jayhw] Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:17 PM gjlist Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha - For Zoran Dear Zoran, You wrote: <"Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as material aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm"> How would you judge Mars in the 12th/Cancer for a Leo lagna, were he is debilitated, Baadhaka and Yogakaraka al at the same time ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 3:31 PM Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Sateesh, > Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as material > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm, > There are double negatives theory. Have you ever found debilitated benefic do > good when placed in dusthana? > I have seen guru in debilitation for mituna lagna (8th house) doing much good to > do owner of the kundhali > Of course there should be no malefic aspect nor guru should be retrograde.. > Best wishes > Zoran > Sateesh Batas wrote: > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > Can you elaborate on this point? > > > > I thought (according to SJC rules, or is it Parasara or Jaimini?) a Malefic > > that is Debilitated (weak) can only cause LESS damage than a strong Malefic > > (strong Malefic can cause MORE damage)? > > > > So if it is posted in a Dushthana - does it again become capable of harming, > > even though weak in Debility? > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > ======== > > > > - > > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > > <gjlist> > > Monday, October 07, 2002 2:10 PM > > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > >: Om Namo Narayanaya, > >: Dear Neha, > >: Let's analyze Ketu in your chart > >: 1. Ketu is neecha or in debilitation. Debilitated malefic in dusthana (6th > >: house) is not good > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > -- > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > email: ahimsa > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 Jay, Sorry for stepping in. As far as I know Ma is 9th lord and so Badhak for Leo lagna and it's being in debility in 12th/cancer create Raj yoga. Badhak Planet placed in Trik Bhava produce raj yoga and being in debility it's power will be reduced to do harm. It is one of the rules given by Sage Yavanacharyya. Hopefully Zoran can shed more light on this. Thanks Chandan gjlist, "Jay Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > You wrote: <"Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as > far as material > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm"> > > How would you judge Mars in the 12th/Cancer for a Leo lagna, were he is > debilitated, Baadhaka and Yogakaraka al at the same time ? > > Kind regards > Jay Weiss > > - > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa@N...> > <gjlist> > Monday, October 07, 2002 3:31 PM > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya, > > Dear Sateesh, > > Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as > material > > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm, > > There are double negatives theory. Have you ever found debilitated benefic > do > > good when placed in dusthana? > > I have seen guru in debilitation for mituna lagna (8th house) doing much > good to > > do owner of the kundhali > > Of course there should be no malefic aspect nor guru should be > retrograde.. > > Best wishes > > Zoran > > Sateesh Batas wrote: > > > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > > > Can you elaborate on this point? > > > > > > I thought (according to SJC rules, or is it Parasara or Jaimini?) a > Malefic > > > that is Debilitated (weak) can only cause LESS damage than a strong > Malefic > > > (strong Malefic can cause MORE damage)? > > > > > > So if it is posted in a Dushthana - does it again become capable of > harming, > > > even though weak in Debility? > > > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > - > > > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa@N...> > > > <gjlist> > > > Monday, October 07, 2002 2:10 PM > > > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > > > >: Om Namo Narayanaya, > > >: Dear Neha, > > >: Let's analyze Ketu in your chart > > >: 1. Ketu is neecha or in debilitation. Debilitated malefic in dusthana > (6th > > >: house) is not good > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 03/10/2002 > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > -- > > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > > email: ahimsa@N... > > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Zoran, > > You wrote: <"Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as > far as material > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm"> > > How would you judge Mars in the 12th/Cancer for a Leo lagna, were he is > debilitated, Baadhaka and Yogakaraka al at the same time ? > It would all depend on two matters; 1. Whether Navamsa position of Mars is good/bad 2. What would be position of Mars from Arudha Lagna If these are favourable, than after initial frustrations all would turn well. It is important to notice that Mars in debilitation in dusthana is never a good promise for material aspect, rather to spiritual. Best wishes Zoran > > Kind regards > Jay Weiss > > - > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Monday, October 07, 2002 3:31 PM > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > Om Namo Narayanaya, > > Dear Sateesh, > > Malefic in debilitation can only do good while in kendra( as far as > material > > aspect is concerned). If in dusthana it will do more harm, > > There are double negatives theory. Have you ever found debilitated benefic > do > > good when placed in dusthana? > > I have seen guru in debilitation for mituna lagna (8th house) doing much > good to > > do owner of the kundhali > > Of course there should be no malefic aspect nor guru should be > retrograde.. > > Best wishes > > Zoran > > Sateesh Batas wrote: > > > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > > > Can you elaborate on this point? > > > > > > I thought (according to SJC rules, or is it Parasara or Jaimini?) a > Malefic > > > that is Debilitated (weak) can only cause LESS damage than a strong > Malefic > > > (strong Malefic can cause MORE damage)? > > > > > > So if it is posted in a Dushthana - does it again become capable of > harming, > > > even though weak in Debility? > > > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > - > > > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > > > <gjlist> > > > Monday, October 07, 2002 2:10 PM > > > Re: [GJ] Help needed: Ketu Mahadasha > > > > > >: Om Namo Narayanaya, > > >: Dear Neha, > > >: Let's analyze Ketu in your chart > > >: 1. Ketu is neecha or in debilitation. Debilitated malefic in dusthana > (6th > > >: house) is not good > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > -- > > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > > email: ahimsa > > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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