Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Vyam Vyaasa-devaya namah, Dear Sateesh, Ketu being headless doesnt have any aspect. Only Rahu has aspects. Rahu is the opposite of Guru and has the aspects of 5,7,9 - same as Guru, only difference being that Rahu's influence will be diametrically oppsite to the influence by Guru. Thus if a person has Guru-Chandala yoga (conjunction of Guru with Rahu), not only is Guru afflicted, all the aspects of Guru are wasted. Some say Rahu also aspects a bhava 12th from itself. Others more knowledgeable may be able to explain this better. -Siva. gjlist, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear List, > > I have found time and time again that the use of Nodal aspects (5th/7th/9th) for BOTH Rahu and Ketu have worked time and time again (e.g. in the TR posts I just put up). > > Interesting that they should share the same aspects (5/7/9) as the Guru planet, Jupiter. Is there any information as to why this is? > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Dear Siva, Thanks for this - I have heard of the 12th-aspect of Rahu too - but have not been able to find the underlying texts/logic for this (which doesn't mean I think it wrong). Good point about Rahu being the "antithesis" of Guru, and thereby having the same aspects. Also, is Rahu in Sagittarius (WITHOUT Guru also being there) a form of GCY? Ditto for Rahu in Pisces? Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - "schinnas" <schinnas <gjlist> Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:52 PM [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection : Ketu being headless doesnt have any aspect. Only Rahu has : aspects. Rahu is the opposite of Guru and has the aspects of 5,7,9 - : same as Guru, only difference being that Rahu's influence will be : diametrically oppsite to the influence by Guru. Thus if a person has : Guru-Chandala yoga (conjunction of Guru with Rahu), not only is Guru : afflicted, all the aspects of Guru are wasted. Some say Rahu also : aspects a bhava 12th from itself. ======== : gjlist, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote: : > Dear List, : > : > I have found time and time again that the use of Nodal aspects : (5th/7th/9th) for BOTH Rahu and Ketu have worked time and time again : (e.g. in the TR posts I just put up). : > : > Interesting that they should share the same aspects (5/7/9) as the : Guru planet, Jupiter. Is there any information as to why this is? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Dear Sirs I find that Ketu does throw aspects 5,7,9. I see it with clients almost daily. I do not understand the logic that if the dragon's tail has no head he cannot throw the aspects. In practice I find that Ketu's headless nature is very compelling. It rather grabs you and pulls you into a situation that is ultimately part of the soul's contract. It often appears foolish to those around you but the lessons are deep and lasting. I find that Ketu's "knowing" when developed is transcendent and often reflects the greatest spiritual talents of the native. Do I find Ketu aspects or transits easy, no. But the sooner one stops trying to figure them out and flows with them the more useful the dragon' tail becomes. I do not pretend to know the writings only am an astrologer who is an observer. My clients have taught me great volumes in simple terms. Here is a little gem that I have seen with the KSY or KAY when the person stands back and sees if there is support from the universe or his environment rather that jumping toward what he desires he often finds the greatest success. The can happen at any age, it just seems to take some years to learn NOT to resist the flow with ones own desires and will. humbly c - "schinnas" <schinnas <gjlist> Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:52 AM [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Vyam Vyaasa-devaya namah, > > Dear Sateesh, > Ketu being headless doesnt have any aspect. Only Rahu has > aspects. Rahu is the opposite of Guru and has the aspects of 5,7,9 - > same as Guru, only difference being that Rahu's influence will be > diametrically oppsite to the influence by Guru. Thus if a person has > Guru-Chandala yoga (conjunction of Guru with Rahu), not only is Guru > afflicted, all the aspects of Guru are wasted. Some say Rahu also > aspects a bhava 12th from itself. > > Others more knowledgeable may be able to explain this better. > > -Siva. > > gjlist, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > I have found time and time again that the use of Nodal aspects > (5th/7th/9th) for BOTH Rahu and Ketu have worked time and time again > (e.g. in the TR posts I just put up). > > > > Interesting that they should share the same aspects (5/7/9) as the > Guru planet, Jupiter. Is there any information as to why this is? > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Dear List, whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, this means that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So whether Ketu's trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be there in any case I think. As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the last days saw Tr Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well on 2nd/3rd Oct. Looking forward to comments. regards Maddalena - "cynthia novak" <cynthianovak <gjlist> Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:38 PM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Dear Sirs > I find that Ketu does throw aspects 5,7,9. I see it with clients almost > daily. I do not understand the logic that if the dragon's tail has no head > he cannot throw the aspects. In practice I find that Ketu's headless nature > is very compelling. It rather grabs you and pulls you into a situation that > is ultimately part of the soul's contract. It often appears foolish to > those around you but the lessons are deep and lasting. I find that Ketu's > "knowing" when developed is transcendent and often reflects the greatest > spiritual talents of the native. > > Do I find Ketu aspects or transits easy, no. But the sooner one stops > trying to figure them out and flows with them the more useful the dragon' > tail becomes. > > I do not pretend to know the writings only am an astrologer who is an > observer. My clients have taught me great volumes in simple terms. > > Here is a little gem that I have seen with the KSY or KAY when the person > stands back and sees if there is support from the universe or his > environment rather that jumping toward what he desires he often finds the > greatest success. The can happen at any age, it just seems to take some > years to learn NOT to resist the flow with ones own desires and will. > humbly > c > - > "schinnas" <schinnas > <gjlist> > Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:52 AM > [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > Vyam Vyaasa-devaya namah, > > > > Dear Sateesh, > > Ketu being headless doesnt have any aspect. Only Rahu has > > aspects. Rahu is the opposite of Guru and has the aspects of 5,7,9 - > > same as Guru, only difference being that Rahu's influence will be > > diametrically oppsite to the influence by Guru. Thus if a person has > > Guru-Chandala yoga (conjunction of Guru with Rahu), not only is Guru > > afflicted, all the aspects of Guru are wasted. Some say Rahu also > > aspects a bhava 12th from itself. > > > > Others more knowledgeable may be able to explain this better. > > > > -Siva. > > > > gjlist, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > > > I have found time and time again that the use of Nodal aspects > > (5th/7th/9th) for BOTH Rahu and Ketu have worked time and time again > > (e.g. in the TR posts I just put up). > > > > > > Interesting that they should share the same aspects (5/7/9) as the > > Guru planet, Jupiter. Is there any information as to why this is? > > > > > > Cheers - Sateesh. > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/2002 > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Sri Ganeshaya Namah Dear Maddelena, Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic root of brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also talks of Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to pregnancy. Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very valid. For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal Moon in navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from navamsa moon. Best regards & greetings, Om Tat Sat Sanjay Rath web: http://srath.com & http://.org > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88] > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM > gjlist > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > Dear List, > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, > this means > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So > whether Ketu's > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > there in any case I think. > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the > last days saw > Tr > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well on > 2nd/3rd Oct. > Looking forward to comments. > > regards > Maddalena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Maddelena This is excellent input on the discussion . If the aspect of the node is close the node and planet concerned will tend to fall in the same Navamsa . So in the asthma case I presented Moon and Rahu fall in the same Navamsa .On the other hand if the orb is wide then Rahu will not fall in the Navamsa of the planet aspected . >From memory it was Narasimha Rao who pointed out that Jupiter Ketu and Mars all fell in the same navamsa last week . Mars and Ketu are quite incendiary planets and navamsa is the natural relationship chart so ergo we have had some con trovery last week which started with some concerns one individual had with a jyotish mission . Hope this helps Nicholas - "Maddalena Cecchinato" <mcecc88 <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 4:17 AM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Dear List, > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, this means > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So whether Ketu's > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > there in any case I think. > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the last days saw > Tr > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well on > 2nd/3rd Oct. > Looking forward to comments. > > regards > Maddalena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Sanjay, thank you for your kind words and for your explanations. I had simply been wondering for quite some time about the mathematical relations between Rasi and Navamsha and thus the validity of checking Navamsha transits. Then the recent events became a "live case" and after the comments on the navamsha transits, I dared post my observation. I like to imagine the logic of this as a concept of "resonance", the Navamsha being a resonance on the subtle (higher) level of what happens in the Rasi (in the more 'material' level?). I would love to have your expert opinion and I have a few more questions on the Navamsha (and vargas), if you have the time. I would love to hear more both on Brighu and Jaimini transits too. Best regards Maddalena - "Sanjay Rath" <srath <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 6:01 AM RE: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Sri Ganeshaya Namah > Dear Maddelena, > Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic root of > brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also talks of > Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to pregnancy. > Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very valid. > For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal Moon in > navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from navamsa > moon. > Best regards & greetings, > Om Tat Sat > Sanjay Rath > web: http://srath.com & http://.org > > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88] > > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM > > gjlist > > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > > Dear List, > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, > > this means > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So > > whether Ketu's > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > > there in any case I think. > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the > > last days saw > > Tr > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well on > > 2nd/3rd Oct. > > Looking forward to comments. > > > > regards > > Maddalena > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Nicholas, thank you for your observations. I agree with you that the natal chart should have an affliction for a tragic event to occur. If there had been no affliction in the natal (in the case you presented, a trine in Rasi showing as conjunction in Navamsha), probably multiple difficult transits would have taken their toll but not in a tragic way. Thanks for clarifying about the messages. I actually read them all and have, as probably all of us, learnt much from this painful experience. On a deep level, I feel that a lot of good to us all has come from this. The law of karma has unfolded in front of our very eyes and has given us the chance to reflect on ourselves, even though it only apparently involved a few people. What I mean is, it is not a coincidence that this conflict became public, it has been a karmic experience for each and everyone of us. As someone else said, this has really involved us all. Well, enough of my ramblings ... :-) Best regards Maddalena - "Nicholas" <jyotish108 <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 8:06 AM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Dear Maddelena > This is excellent input on the discussion . If the aspect of the node is > close the node and planet concerned will tend to fall in the same Navamsa .. > So in the asthma case I presented Moon and Rahu fall in the same Navamsa ..On > the other hand if the orb is wide then Rahu will not fall in the Navamsa of > the planet aspected . > From memory it was Narasimha Rao who pointed out that Jupiter Ketu and Mars > all fell in the same navamsa last week . Mars and Ketu are quite incendiary > planets and navamsa is the natural relationship chart so ergo we have had > some con trovery last week which started with some concerns one individual > had with a jyotish mission . > Hope this helps > Nicholas > - > "Maddalena Cecchinato" <mcecc88 > <gjlist> > Monday, October 07, 2002 4:17 AM > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > Dear List, > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, this > means > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So whether > Ketu's > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > > there in any case I think. > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the last days > saw > > Tr > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well on > > 2nd/3rd Oct. > > Looking forward to comments. > > > > regards > > Maddalena > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Maddelena > > thank you for your observations. I agree with you that the natal chart > should have an affliction for a tragic event to occur. If there had been no > affliction in the natal (in the case you presented, a trine in Rasi showing > as conjunction in Navamsha), probably multiple difficult transits would have > taken their toll but not in a tragic way. > Yes this is my understanding of jyotish . Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Maddalena, I do not know the exact web address of sjc centar aftar all these events. I think it is www.srijjagannath.org. There is an article which I wrote about Varga Transits, including Bhrigu transits.. Best wishes Zoran Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > > thank you for your kind words and for your explanations. I had simply been > wondering for quite some time about the mathematical relations between Rasi > and Navamsha and thus the validity of checking Navamsha transits. Then the > recent events became a "live case" and after the comments on the navamsha > transits, I dared post my observation. > I like to imagine the logic of this as a concept of "resonance", the > Navamsha being a resonance on the subtle (higher) level of what happens in > the Rasi (in the more 'material' level?). I would love to have your expert > opinion and I have a few more questions on the Navamsha (and vargas), if you > have the time. > I would love to hear more both on Brighu and Jaimini transits too. > > Best regards > Maddalena > > - > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > <gjlist> > Monday, October 07, 2002 6:01 AM > RE: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > Sri Ganeshaya Namah > > Dear Maddelena, > > Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic root of > > brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also talks of > > Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to pregnancy. > > Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very valid. > > For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal Moon > in > > navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from navamsa > > moon. > > Best regards & greetings, > > Om Tat Sat > > Sanjay Rath > > web: http://srath.com & http://.org > > > > > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88] > > > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM > > > gjlist > > > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, > > > this means > > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So > > > whether Ketu's > > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > > > there in any case I think. > > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the > > > last days saw > > > Tr > > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well > on > > > 2nd/3rd Oct. > > > Looking forward to comments. > > > > > > regards > > > Maddalena > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Zoran, thank you for your help. I went to the website (just one 'j' less and it works fine), but was unable to find the varga transits article. I found instead your article on Rasi Tulya Navamsha (or maybe you meant this one in fact?). I read it with great interest and was happy to see that it already answers other queries that I was going to post. In fact, I was going to ask whether it is correct to assess a planet - posited in a certain Navamsha sign - as in the Rasi house corresponding to that sign ... and your article explains the placements as Lagnamsa, dhanamsa, etc. So I imagine that transits can be read the same way. For instance, as my Rasi lagna is Gemini, then the current Saturn transit can be read on two levels: as in the 1st house, but at a subtle level as also in the 6th house, since transit Navamsha Saturn is in Scorpio. Is my understanding correct? Regards Maddalena - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <gjlist> Monday, October 07, 2002 3:25 PM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Maddalena, > I do not know the exact web address of sjc centar aftar all these events. I > think it is > www.srijjagannath.org. There is an article which I wrote about Varga Transits, > including Bhrigu transits.. > Best wishes > Zoran > > Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > thank you for your kind words and for your explanations. I had simply been > > wondering for quite some time about the mathematical relations between Rasi > > and Navamsha and thus the validity of checking Navamsha transits. Then the > > recent events became a "live case" and after the comments on the navamsha > > transits, I dared post my observation. > > I like to imagine the logic of this as a concept of "resonance", the > > Navamsha being a resonance on the subtle (higher) level of what happens in > > the Rasi (in the more 'material' level?). I would love to have your expert > > opinion and I have a few more questions on the Navamsha (and vargas), if you > > have the time. > > I would love to hear more both on Brighu and Jaimini transits too. > > > > Best regards > > Maddalena > > > > - > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > <gjlist> > > Monday, October 07, 2002 6:01 AM > > RE: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > Sri Ganeshaya Namah > > > Dear Maddelena, > > > Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic root of > > > brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also talks of > > > Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to pregnancy. > > > Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very valid. > > > For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal Moon > > in > > > navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from navamsa > > > moon. > > > Best regards & greetings, > > > Om Tat Sat > > > Sanjay Rath > > > web: http://srath.com & http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88] > > > > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM > > > > gjlist > > > > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, > > > > this means > > > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So > > > > whether Ketu's > > > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be > > > > there in any case I think. > > > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I > > > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the > > > > last days saw > > > > Tr > > > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well > > on > > > > 2nd/3rd Oct. > > > > Looking forward to comments. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Maddalena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > -- > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > email: ahimsa > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Namaste Zoran Gur & list, The new address is http://.org/. Perhaps a typo. Best regards, Shailesh - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Monday, October 07, 2002 6:55 PM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear Maddalena,I do not know the exact web address of sjc centar aftar all these events. Ithink it iswww.srijjagannath.org. There is an article which I wrote about Varga Transits,including Bhrigu transits..Best wishesZoranMaddalena Cecchinato wrote:> Dear Sanjay,>> thank you for your kind words and for your explanations. I had simply been> wondering for quite some time about the mathematical relations between Rasi> and Navamsha and thus the validity of checking Navamsha transits. Then the> recent events became a "live case" and after the comments on the navamsha> transits, I dared post my observation.> I like to imagine the logic of this as a concept of "resonance", the> Navamsha being a resonance on the subtle (higher) level of what happens in> the Rasi (in the more 'material' level?). I would love to have your expert> opinion and I have a few more questions on the Navamsha (and vargas), if you> have the time.> I would love to hear more both on Brighu and Jaimini transits too.>> Best regards> Maddalena>> -> "Sanjay Rath" <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com>> <gjlist>> Monday, October 07, 2002 6:01 AM> RE: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection>> > Sri Ganeshaya Namah> > Dear Maddelena,> > Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic root of> > brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also talks of> > Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to pregnancy.> > Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very valid.> > For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal Moon> in> > navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from navamsa> > moon.> > Best regards & greetings,> > Om Tat Sat> > Sanjay Rath> > web: http://srath.com & http://.org> >> > > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88 (AT) libero (DOT) it]> > > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM> > > gjlist> > > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection> > >> > >> > > Dear List,> > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one,> > > this means> > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So> > > whether Ketu's> > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would be> > > there in any case I think.> > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these mails I> > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the> > > last days saw> > > Tr> > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as well> on> > > 2nd/3rd Oct.> > > Looking forward to comments.> > >> > > regards> > > Maddalena> > >> >> >> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com>'>http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com>'>http://www.goravani.com>>> Your use of is subject to --ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVICJyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centreemail: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) netweb: www.sjvc.co.yuOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Maddalena, > thank you for your help. I went to the website (just one 'j' less and it > works > fine), but was unable to find the varga transits article. I found instead > your article on Rasi Tulya Navamsha (or maybe you meant this one in fact?). > I read it with great interest and was happy to see that it already answers > other queries that I was going to post. > In fact, I was going to ask whether it is correct to assess a planet - > posited in a certain Navamsha sign - as in the Rasi house corresponding to > that sign ... and your article explains the placements as Lagnamsa, > dhanamsa, etc. > That is one of the most important Nadi techniques for Navamsa Judgement. > So I imagine that transits can be read the same way. For instance, as my > Rasi lagna is Gemini, then the current Saturn transit can be read on two > levels: as in the 1st house, but at a subtle level as also in the 6th house, > since transit Navamsha Saturn is in Scorpio. Is my understanding correct? > Transits can be looked in two ways: 1. Examine the longitude of tranzitting graha, and find the Navamsa as in usual process. For example, Guru now is in Karka around 19 degrees, thus falling into Dhanu Navamsa 2. Examine the same rashi (karka) in Navamsa-this is Bhrigu Transit Best wishes Zoran > > Regards > Maddalena > > - > "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Monday, October 07, 2002 3:25 PM > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > Om Namo Narayanaya, > > Dear Maddalena, > > I do not know the exact web address of sjc centar aftar all these events. > I > > think it is > > www.srijjagannath.org. There is an article which I wrote about Varga > Transits, > > including Bhrigu transits.. > > Best wishes > > Zoran > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > thank you for your kind words and for your explanations. I had simply > been > > > wondering for quite some time about the mathematical relations between > Rasi > > > and Navamsha and thus the validity of checking Navamsha transits. Then > the > > > recent events became a "live case" and after the comments on the > navamsha > > > transits, I dared post my observation. > > > I like to imagine the logic of this as a concept of "resonance", the > > > Navamsha being a resonance on the subtle (higher) level of what happens > in > > > the Rasi (in the more 'material' level?). I would love to have your > expert > > > opinion and I have a few more questions on the Navamsha (and vargas), if > you > > > have the time. > > > I would love to hear more both on Brighu and Jaimini transits too. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Maddalena > > > > > > - > > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > > <gjlist> > > > Monday, October 07, 2002 6:01 AM > > > RE: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > > > Sri Ganeshaya Namah > > > > Dear Maddelena, > > > > Simply brilliant point..very brilliant indeed as this is the basic > root of > > > > brighu's transit. I would love to hear more on this. Jaimini also > talks of > > > > Sun transiting Ketvamsa in fructifying some events related to > pregnancy. > > > > Besides natal positions, the navamsa transitory positions are very > valid. > > > > For example people invariably miss out the transits related to natal > Moon > > > in > > > > navamsa. I have found sade-sati effects to be more profound from > navamsa > > > > moon. > > > > Best regards & greetings, > > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > web: http://srath.com & http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maddalena Cecchinato [mcecc88] > > > > > Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:47 PM > > > > > gjlist > > > > > Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > whenever a transiting planet is at 120 degrees from a natal one, > > > > > this means > > > > > that it is transiting the same navamsha of the natal one. So > > > > > whether Ketu's > > > > > trinal aspects in Rasi should be considered or not, the effect would > be > > > > > there in any case I think. > > > > > As has been observed by someone recently (sorry, with all these > mails I > > > > > can't remember who it was :-) ), the conflicts going on in the > > > > > last days saw > > > > > Tr > > > > > Mars and Jupiter conjoined in Navamsha. Tr true Ketu was there as > well > > > on > > > > > 2nd/3rd Oct. > > > > > Looking forward to comments. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Maddalena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > -- > > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > > email: ahimsa > > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Dear Zoran, thank you. Could you clarify a bit more? Using your example, let's say that lagna is 15 Aries in the natal chart. Jupiter is transiting 19 Cancer, thus the 4th house in the Rashi chart. The Navamsha transited by Jupiter is Sagittarius. >From what I understand from your last explanations on Brighu transits, we should consider Jupiter as transiting the 12th house in the Navamsha chart (find Cancer in Navamsha, where Navamsha lagna is Leo). Or do we (also?) consider Jupiter as transiting the 9th house (find Sagittarius in the rashi chart)? I thought this was the Rasi Tulya Navamsa method, being a Brighu method? Regards Maddalena > Transits can be looked in two ways: > 1. Examine the longitude of tranzitting graha, and find the Navamsa as in usual > process. > For example, Guru now is in Karka around 19 degrees, thus falling into Dhanu > Navamsa > 2. Examine the same rashi (karka) in Navamsa-this is Bhrigu Transit > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Maddalena, Rashi Tulya Navamsa and Bhrigu Transits are different. The first method is used when analysing natal positions. While the second in transit. So if Navamsa Lagna is Leo, than Jupiter would now transit Cancer or 12th house. You can extand this transits to other divisional charts, such as saptamsa, dashamsa etc. Examine carefully Rashi tulya navamsa on the example in my article.. At first sight, Rashi chart is too powerful, yet, Navamsa positions showed the inner weakness and gave the true picture of person's life. Best wishes Zoran Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > thank you. Could you clarify a bit more? > Using your example, let's say that lagna is 15 Aries in the natal chart. > Jupiter is transiting 19 Cancer, thus the 4th house in the Rashi chart. The > Navamsha transited by Jupiter is Sagittarius. > >From what I understand from your last explanations on Brighu transits, we > should consider Jupiter as transiting the 12th house in the Navamsha chart > (find Cancer in Navamsha, where Navamsha lagna is Leo). > Or do we (also?) consider Jupiter as transiting the 9th house (find > Sagittarius in the rashi chart)? I thought this was the Rasi Tulya Navamsa > method, being a Brighu method? > > Regards > Maddalena > > > Transits can be looked in two ways: > > 1. Examine the longitude of tranzitting graha, and find the Navamsa as in > usual > > process. > > For example, Guru now is in Karka around 19 degrees, thus falling into > Dhanu > > Navamsa > > 2. Examine the same rashi (karka) in Navamsa-this is Bhrigu Transit > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Dear Zoran, thank you for clarifying the differences. Both these concepts are very interesting indeed, closely connecting Rashi and Navamsha, even though in different ways. Many thanks for this information. Regards Maddalena - "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa <gjlist> Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:19 PM Re: [GJ] Re: Nodal aspects - corrrection > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Maddalena, > Rashi Tulya Navamsa and Bhrigu Transits are different. > The first method is used when analysing natal positions. While the second in > transit. > So if Navamsa Lagna is Leo, than Jupiter would now transit Cancer or 12th > house. > You can extand this transits to other divisional charts, such as saptamsa, > dashamsa etc. > Examine carefully Rashi tulya navamsa on the example in my article.. At first > sight, > Rashi chart is too powerful, yet, Navamsa positions showed the inner weakness > and gave > the true picture of person's life. > Best wishes > Zoran > > Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > thank you. Could you clarify a bit more? > > Using your example, let's say that lagna is 15 Aries in the natal chart. > > Jupiter is transiting 19 Cancer, thus the 4th house in the Rashi chart. The > > Navamsha transited by Jupiter is Sagittarius. > > >From what I understand from your last explanations on Brighu transits, we > > should consider Jupiter as transiting the 12th house in the Navamsha chart > > (find Cancer in Navamsha, where Navamsha lagna is Leo). > > Or do we (also?) consider Jupiter as transiting the 9th house (find > > Sagittarius in the rashi chart)? I thought this was the Rasi Tulya Navamsa > > method, being a Brighu method? > > > > Regards > > Maddalena > > > > > Transits can be looked in two ways: > > > 1. Examine the longitude of tranzitting graha, and find the Navamsa as in > > usual > > > process. > > > For example, Guru now is in Karka around 19 degrees, thus falling into > > Dhanu > > > Navamsa > > > 2. Examine the same rashi (karka) in Navamsa-this is Bhrigu Transit > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > -- > ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC > Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre > email: ahimsa > web: www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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