MY RIGHT TO SPEAK

[Guest guest]

I have to say here that I think it's misleading for you to use the email address

"gjlist (AT) sjvcusa (DOT) org". It can easily give newcomers the impression that you

speak for the list; that you are the list moderator; and/or that you have some

affiliation with the Goravani Jyotish product or its parent company.

This is my advice on what I feel is an important point. Please consider

changing this, given the intensity and volume of your recent posts and the

likelihood of people misconstruing and/or bring misled by the address.

Thanks.

Very truly yours,

Jesse I. Abbot

[Guest guest]

MY RIGHT TO SPEAK

 

Now, all this week I have been sitting in my office in a Gandhian-like

silence, while a certain individual by the name of Dinanath das has had a

free run to drop the contents of his bowels on the Internet about me. I

don't know what he's been eating this week, but I can tell you here and

now, I will not sit here and eat the remnants of his lunch anymore. Now I

want to say something for myself, and all the persons who have been

maliciously and mercilessly slimed by this boy this week. This is

something a man has to do, apart from his Arudha (whatever it may be), so

pardon me if anybody feels this is too harsh, or you would rather me tell

you about Jyotish, or whatever. If you are not willing or ready to hear

this, then don't read from here on:

 

TO DINANATH DAS

 

You do not know me, have never met me, yet you have trashed my reputation

and name based on here-say, lies, and complete misinformation. You have

maligned good people, all spiritualists and Jyotish teachers; have trashed

your Jyotish guru, disgraced a lady on the Internet, committed fraud and

self-misrepresentation, hi-jacked a whole organization, stolen its web

site, and all the while sanctimoniously sitting on the throne of judgment

of others, setting yourself up as some kind of perfect holy man and the

emblem of truth. You have broken the hearts of my friends, clients, and

students. You have made my wife and my mother cry.

 

Well this is my message for you: YOU ARE A WEASEL AND A COWARD. Come out

from behind your computer screen for one moment, and stop terrorizing

people whose sincerity bears itself out by its own example. Come and meet

with me. Here where I live near the Oregon mountains, there are lots of

meadows and open spaces where we can meet. Or, lets meet in a place of

your choosing, yet where its just you and me. Do this like a man, instead

of like a whiny little boy who couldn't get his way. Come and meet with

me, and TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY THINK TO MY FACE, YOU SON OF A BITCH.

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

Ph: 541.318.0248

[Guest guest]

> MY RIGHT TO SPEAK

 

but please stick to the facts and mind your language. Which Guru taught you

to swear like that, or perhaps you think that it is something that you

should do as a "so called" Guru?

 

> Now, all this week I have been sitting in my office in a Gandhian-like

> silence, while a certain individual by the name of Dinanath das has had a

> free run to drop the contents of his bowels on the Internet about me. I

> don't know what he's been eating this week, but I can tell you here and

> now, I will not sit here and eat the remnants of his lunch anymore. Now I

> want to say something for myself, and all the persons who have been

> maliciously and mercilessly slimed by this boy this week. This is

> something a man has to do, apart from his Arudha (whatever it may be), so

> pardon me if anybody feels this is too harsh, or you would rather me tell

> you about Jyotish, or whatever. If you are not willing or ready to hear

> this, then don't read from here on:

 

Ask yourself who started all this, you and your group or me? While back I

informed Sanjay that few persons are willing to donate funds for annual fee

for www.sjvcusa.org and for federal income tax exemption filling for

SJVC-USA registered in NJ. Next thing I know same individuals who pledged

money now backed out because Laxmi and Brendan called them to lie to them

that SJVC-USA in my personal organization and that I'll use that money for

myself if they send me anything. Sanjay in his first blasphemous email to me

clarified that he was the one who asked Kusa and myself to setup SJVC in the

USA and that is not ours or mine organization that just happens to be called

SJVC. After that Sanjay told you to start your own organization and register

it separately from ours but instead of that you started picking on SJVC-USA

that you have nothing to do with. After that you put false and misleading

information on our web site and we have to tolerate that? When I updated the

web site with correct legal information (president, treasurer and secretary)

you started sending emails to all other mailing lists that I hijacked SJVC's

web site and started blaspheming me. Until that whatever differences we had

we were discussing on Achyuta mailing list on reserved for

SJVC gurus only. After you saw that I removed your info from sjvcusa.org you

just went mad and started blaspheming me on all jyotish related mailing

lists saying that I hijacked sjvcusa.org, which is how we unfortunately

ended up on Goravani Jyotish mailing list. If you didn't remove me from

varahamihira and vedic astrology we could be discussing things there, but

since you don't want that SJVC students should know what silly things you

are doing you conveniently removed me from these lists.

 

> TO DINANATH DAS

 

Yes Guruji, please start your blasphemy.

 

> You do not know me, have never met me, yet you have trashed my reputation

> and name based on here-say, lies, and complete misinformation. You have

> maligned good people, all spiritualists and Jyotish teachers; have trashed

> your Jyotish guru, disgraced a lady on the Internet, committed fraud and

> self-misrepresentation, hi-jacked a whole organization, stolen its web

> site, and all the while sanctimoniously sitting on the throne of judgment

> of others, setting yourself up as some kind of perfect holy man and the

> emblem of truth. You have broken the hearts of my friends, clients, and

> students. You have made my wife and my mother cry.

>

> Well this is my message for you: YOU ARE A WEASEL AND A COWARD. Come out

> from behind your computer screen for one moment, and stop terrorizing

> people whose sincerity bears itself out by its own example. Come and

meet

> with me. Here where I live near the Oregon mountains, there are lots of

> meadows and open spaces where we can meet. Or, lets meet in a place of

> your choosing, yet where its just you and me. Do this like a man,

instead

> of like a whiny little boy who couldn't get his way. Come and meet with

> me, and TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY THINK TO MY FACE, YOU SON OF A BITCH.

 

Thank you for all your humble offences, it is always a pleasure to have a

word with a gentleman who is using such profound language to express his

gentle feelings about others. It certainly goes to your merit to use words

like this and I am delighted to meet a gentleman like your good self. I am

sure that your poetic language will certainly help to improve your image in

the eyes of others and it will solve all your problems. Let me tell you,

people know what is going on, who you are and what are you up to. Now you

are just confirming what they know by showing your true face.

 

Hare Krishna,

Dinanatha Das.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jesse,

 

Hopefully we will communicate again in better times. The Kala Sarpa Yoga is

taking its toll at the moment.

 

Don't you know that hijacking peoples emails and websites is the in thing now? I

thought that sort of thing only happened in South Africa, but apparently I was

wrong.

 

Best wishes

Robyn

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Jiabbot (AT) cs (DOT) com

gjlist ; gjlist (AT) sjvcusa (DOT) org

Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:18 PM

Re: [GJ] MY RIGHT TO SPEAK

Dear Dinanatha Das,I have to say here that I think it's misleading for you to

use the email address "gjlist (AT) sjvcusa (DOT) org". It can easily give newcomers the

impression that you speak for the list; that you are the list moderator; and/or

that you have some affiliation with the Goravani Jyotish product or its parent

company.This is my advice on what I feel is an important point. Please

consider changing this, given the intensity and volume of your recent posts and

the likelihood of people misconstruing and/or bring misled by the

address.Thanks.Very truly yours,Jesse I. Abbot Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya;

Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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