Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 > This proves how much you have learnt from me. Everyone is well aware that > those good yogas will also fructify in their time just like the curse in > fructifying in its time. This is my Last & final mail on this matter. I have > read the requests of Nicholas and others and henceforth will NOT respond to > any such mail. Nicholas, Raghu and other Jyotish friends, please bear with > me this one last time. Of course you'll not reply because what will you say? Please don't try to present the matter as if you have so much to say in your defense but you don't want because others asked you. This is bogus argument. No one ever asked you at the first place to write anything about me and "curses" in my chart so why did you start writing about it? I also never wanted to involve you in the discussion with Robert (if you noticed). I respected that you didn't get involved in discussion with Robert and I was not getting you involved. I was hoping that you'll realize that what Robert is doing is not good for anyone and get you'll him to stop, but instead of that you came in the picture and start to fuel things even more. Seeing that you fallen so low and resorted to such low-class activities of astrological manipulation the only thing that I could do was to expose you publicly so that everyone is aware of your motivations. I was sincerely hopping that you'll change to your old self like you were before you started your financing business but instead you started acting even in more low-class fashion. It was your own conscious decision to start blaspheming me and now you have to suffer the consequences of your decision. Now everyone knows the truth about you and everyone can understand your "Guru" activities. You are doing is exactly opposite of what are you saying that you should be doing as a Guru. You are saying that Gurus should be satwic and you are smoking, you are saying that Gurus should be truthful and you lied even to your most closest friends and students to get their money and cheat them and even went to that extent that you were using your Jyotish knowledge to deceive them, you are saying that Gurus should be peaceful and without any reason you have all of a sudden started blaspheming me on all the astrological mailing lists. Seeing this duplicitous attitude and activities of yours how can anyone trust you any more including your teachings? I couldn't believe that a person like you will become so low-class and use Jyotish for manipulation with your students. We all had blind faith in you and we trusted you with our lives but you misused your Jyotish knowledge to take advantage of all of us. No wonder that all your old students from Delhi have left you and they are even sending police to your home. Even Narasimha who you tried to get involved in your email told you that it is unethical to write publicly about other persons horoscopes in such way that you are doing. If you are saying that I learnt nothing from you, than I am glad that you are saying that publicly. The last thing I want that someone will tell me that I learnt from you to manipulate other peoples lives and their horoscopes for my personal goals. It is good that you say that I leant nothing from you. Thank you for that. A week ago I was "one of the best that you have" in your email to Narasimha and now I haven't learnt anything from you. I prefer that it stays that I learned nothing from you. As far as yogas and curses in my chart that you mentioned are concerned, you were quick to point out the yogas in my lagna (that will fructify in time like you said) but it took you more than 5 years to even mention "curse" in my chart (that will also fructify in time like you said). Neither of them was immediately effective as you said, so if you could mention yogas 5 years ago why you couldn't also mentioned a "curse" that you recently discovered in my chart, only when it fit your goals? You also taught us that yogas in lagna and 7th house will fructify later in life while yogas in 4th and 10th house will fructify in the first part of life. So it was clear from the beginning that Jupiter-Venus yoga in my lagna will fructify later in life (in second half of life) and yet you mentioned it immediately. According to you my "curse" was supposed to fructify in Rahu-Mercury period which was obviously much earlier and only few years down the road from the time when I met you in '97. If you really wanted to help me with your astrological advice it would be most logical to warn me about negative things and "curses" that are supposed to fructify soon, much earlier than the yogas in lagna that you were talking all the time when I met you. Obviously my "curse" came from you not from my maternal uncle. Hare Krishna, Dinanatha Das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Hi Dinanath: I feel your pain and I'm the only one overtly standing up for your views. I'm older than you so one advice for you is that you have exhalted Sun, this is a rare placement to have. No matter what happens in the short-term, you'll attain your goals in the long run, no one can stop you from doing this, you're unstoppable. Ya, you have every right to clear you name and contiue to do so. On another note, I too have Jupiter and Venus combination in the 9th house in Cancer,i.e. Venus is with Exhalted Jupiter. What does this mean? Is this some kind of a yog? I'm asking you this because you have a similar combination in Lagna, in Aquarius. Thanks MD gjlist, "Dinanatha Das" <gjlist@s...> wrote: > > This proves how much you have learnt from me. Everyone is well aware that > > those good yogas will also fructify in their time just like the curse in > > fructifying in its time. This is my Last & final mail on this matter. I > have > > read the requests of Nicholas and others and henceforth will NOT respond > to > > any such mail. Nicholas, Raghu and other Jyotish friends, please bear with > > me this one last time. > > Of course you'll not reply because what will you say? Please don't try to > present the matter as if you have so much to say in your defense but you > don't want because others asked you. This is bogus argument. No one ever > asked you at the first place to write anything about me and "curses" in my > chart so why did you start writing about it? I also never wanted to involve > you in the discussion with Robert (if you noticed). I respected that you > didn't get involved in discussion with Robert and I was not getting you > involved. I was hoping that you'll realize that what Robert is doing is not > good for anyone and get you'll him to stop, but instead of that you came in > the picture and start to fuel things even more. Seeing that you fallen so > low and resorted to such low-class activities of astrological manipulation > the only thing that I could do was to expose you publicly so that everyone > is aware of your motivations. I was sincerely hopping that you'll change to > your old self like you were before you started your financing business but > instead you started acting even in more low-class fashion. It was your own > conscious decision to start blaspheming me and now you have to suffer the > consequences of your decision. > Now everyone knows the truth about you and everyone can understand your > "Guru" activities. You are doing is exactly opposite of what are you saying > that you should be doing as a Guru. > You are saying that Gurus should be satwic and you are smoking, you are > saying that Gurus should be truthful and you lied even to your most closest > friends and students to get their money and cheat them and even went to that > extent that you were using your Jyotish knowledge to deceive them, you are > saying that Gurus should be peaceful and without any reason you have all of > a sudden started blaspheming me on all the astrological mailing lists. > Seeing this duplicitous attitude and activities of yours how can anyone > trust you any more including your teachings? > > I couldn't believe that a person like you will become so low-class and use > Jyotish for manipulation with your students. We all had blind faith in you > and we trusted you with our lives but you misused your Jyotish knowledge to > take advantage of all of us. No wonder that all your old students from Delhi > have left you and they are even sending police to your home. Even Narasimha > who you tried to get involved in your email told you that it is unethical to > write publicly about other persons horoscopes in such way that you are > doing. > > If you are saying that I learnt nothing from you, than I am glad that you > are saying that publicly. The last thing I want that someone will tell me > that I learnt from you to manipulate other peoples lives and their > horoscopes for my personal goals. It is good that you say that I leant > nothing from you. Thank you for that. A week ago I was "one of the best that > you have" in your email to Narasimha and now I haven't learnt anything from > you. I prefer that it stays that I learned nothing from you. > > As far as yogas and curses in my chart that you mentioned are concerned, you > were quick to point out the yogas in my lagna (that will fructify in time > like you said) but it took you more than 5 years to even mention "curse" in > my chart (that will also fructify in time like you said). Neither of them > was immediately effective as you said, so if you could mention yogas 5 years > ago why you couldn't also mentioned a "curse" that you recently discovered > in my chart, only when it fit your goals? > > You also taught us that yogas in lagna and 7th house will fructify later in > life while yogas in 4th and 10th house will fructify in the first part of > life. So it was clear from the beginning that Jupiter-Venus yoga in my lagna > will fructify later in life (in second half of life) and yet you mentioned > it immediately. According to you my "curse" was supposed to fructify in > Rahu-Mercury period which was obviously much earlier and only few years down > the road from the time when I met you in '97. If you really wanted to help > me with your astrological advice it would be most logical to warn me about > negative things and "curses" that are supposed to fructify soon, much > earlier than the yogas in lagna that you were talking all the time when I > met you. Obviously my "curse" came from you not from my maternal uncle. > > Hare Krishna, > Dinanatha Das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Dear MD, Please continue to learn Jyotish first...At least he knows better about his exalted Sun that caused him to break his shoulder bone as soon as he was born. Learn first please. Sanjay gjlist, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote: > Hi Dinanath: > > I feel your pain and I'm the only one overtly standing up for your > views. I'm older than you so one advice for you is that you have > exhalted Sun, this is a rare placement to have. No matter what > happens in the short-term, you'll attain your goals in the long run, > no one can stop you from doing this, you're unstoppable. Ya, you have > every right to clear you name and contiue to do so. > > On another note, I too have Jupiter and Venus combination in the 9th > house in Cancer,i.e. Venus is with Exhalted Jupiter. What does this > mean? Is this some kind of a yog? I'm asking you this because you > have a similar combination in Lagna, in Aquarius. Thanks > > MD > > gjlist, "Dinanatha Das" <gjlist@s...> wrote: > > > This proves how much you have learnt from me. Everyone is well > aware that > > > those good yogas will also fructify in their time just like the > curse in > > > fructifying in its time. This is my Last & final mail on this > matter. I > > have > > > read the requests of Nicholas and others and henceforth will NOT > respond > > to > > > any such mail. Nicholas, Raghu and other Jyotish friends, please > bear with > > > me this one last time. > > > > Of course you'll not reply because what will you say? Please don't > try to > > present the matter as if you have so much to say in your defense > but you > > don't want because others asked you. This is bogus argument. No one > ever > > asked you at the first place to write anything about me > and "curses" in my > > chart so why did you start writing about it? I also never wanted to > involve > > you in the discussion with Robert (if you noticed). I respected > that you > > didn't get involved in discussion with Robert and I was not getting > you > > involved. I was hoping that you'll realize that what Robert is > doing is not > > good for anyone and get you'll him to stop, but instead of that you > came in > > the picture and start to fuel things even more. Seeing that you > fallen so > > low and resorted to such low-class activities of astrological > manipulation > > the only thing that I could do was to expose you publicly so that > everyone > > is aware of your motivations. I was sincerely hopping that you'll > change to > > your old self like you were before you started your financing > business but > > instead you started acting even in more low-class fashion. It was > your own > > conscious decision to start blaspheming me and now you have to > suffer the > > consequences of your decision. > > Now everyone knows the truth about you and everyone can understand > your > > "Guru" activities. You are doing is exactly opposite of what are > you saying > > that you should be doing as a Guru. > > You are saying that Gurus should be satwic and you are smoking, you > are > > saying that Gurus should be truthful and you lied even to your most > closest > > friends and students to get their money and cheat them and even > went to that > > extent that you were using your Jyotish knowledge to deceive them, > you are > > saying that Gurus should be peaceful and without any reason you > have all of > > a sudden started blaspheming me on all the astrological mailing > lists. > > Seeing this duplicitous attitude and activities of yours how can > anyone > > trust you any more including your teachings? > > > > I couldn't believe that a person like you will become so low- class > and use > > Jyotish for manipulation with your students. We all had blind faith > in you > > and we trusted you with our lives but you misused your Jyotish > knowledge to > > take advantage of all of us. No wonder that all your old students > from Delhi > > have left you and they are even sending police to your home. Even > Narasimha > > who you tried to get involved in your email told you that it is > unethical to > > write publicly about other persons horoscopes in such way that you > are > > doing. > > > > If you are saying that I learnt nothing from you, than I am glad > that you > > are saying that publicly. The last thing I want that someone will > tell me > > that I learnt from you to manipulate other peoples lives and their > > horoscopes for my personal goals. It is good that you say that I > leant > > nothing from you. Thank you for that. A week ago I was "one of the > best that > > you have" in your email to Narasimha and now I haven't learnt > anything from > > you. I prefer that it stays that I learned nothing from you. > > > > As far as yogas and curses in my chart that you mentioned are > concerned, you > > were quick to point out the yogas in my lagna (that will fructify > in time > > like you said) but it took you more than 5 years to even > mention "curse" in > > my chart (that will also fructify in time like you said). Neither > of them > > was immediately effective as you said, so if you could mention > yogas 5 years > > ago why you couldn't also mentioned a "curse" that you recently > discovered > > in my chart, only when it fit your goals? > > > > You also taught us that yogas in lagna and 7th house will fructify > later in > > life while yogas in 4th and 10th house will fructify in the first > part of > > life. So it was clear from the beginning that Jupiter-Venus yoga in > my lagna > > will fructify later in life (in second half of life) and yet you > mentioned > > it immediately. According to you my "curse" was supposed to > fructify in > > Rahu-Mercury period which was obviously much earlier and only few > years down > > the road from the time when I met you in '97. If you really wanted > to help > > me with your astrological advice it would be most logical to warn > me about > > negative things and "curses" that are supposed to fructify soon, > much > > earlier than the yogas in lagna that you were talking all the time > when I > > met you. Obviously my "curse" came from you not from my maternal > uncle. > > > > Hare Krishna, > > Dinanatha Das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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