Response to Tracy Nirvana Acres...& Martin

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Martin,

 

Replies are below...

 

MM: Mu,

>

> You really are a racist. If you're not then you at

> the least have a really

> snotty attitude about the world.

 

MU: Let's start right here - I am not a racist, and if

you would know how to apply such terms correctly, you

would know the difference between one that is and one

that is not. I am biased, of course, as all human

beings; given the history of yes, my people, could you

blame 'em?

 

My view of the world, as I pointed out to you at the

beginning of our dialogue, is vastly different from

your own, and unlike you, I don't see this as a bad

thing, just different. You have the right to see

things in the way you choose, even if you are

dead-wrong, and I reserve the right to not only view

that same world from my own unique perspective, but to

vociferously articulate that perspective, come what

may.

 

MM: And the only wrong

> conclusion I drew was

> that there might be some value to be gained in

> debating you in that I

> thought

> (incorrectly?!?) that had some interest in hearing

> and discussing opinions.

 

MU: I remain open to such a spirited debate - but

please bear in mind, in the 'hood, we bring the pain;

as the saying often goes, Martin, if you catch the

balls, then you're in the wrong league. Where I come

from, we hit hard. If you can't stand it, you should

sit down.

>

MM: But you are too blinded by your own self-apparent

> brilliance.

 

MU: And you have yet to, point-for-point, refute, with

documentation, my responses to your emails. No doubt

it will not come as a suprise to me, that this is not

likely to be forthcoming. Such is the way of such

discussions with those who live in fairytale lands

peppered with the mythology of Horatio Alger and the

like. I'm still waiting to prove me wrong, but you'll

please understand if I don't hold my breath.

 

MM: You really

> do seem to think that the world owes you and "your

> people".

 

MU: No, the world does not owe my people, but the USA

DOES. And the time will come, when they will pay up.

For further info, check out The Debt: What America

Owes to Blacks, by Randall Robinson. That is, if you

really want to have an honest discussion...

 

MM: MY people were

> nearly wiped of the planet on both sides of my

> parentage. On my mother's

> side, WE were the only tribe never to surrender to

> the US Government. On

> my father's, Hitler-minded people, and a relatively

> small number of hate-

> filled Arabs have been trying to eradicate Jews for

> dozens of centuries -

> all to no avail. So don't whine to me about the

> plight of "your people".

 

MU: And my people fought along side yours, on both

sides, from nearly Day One - I still wait for your

people to return the fave. I don't whine, and your

phrasing it in that way reveals your own vieled

racism; again, as I have pointed out to Tracy,

whenever Black folk attempt to air a grievance that

has at its base a racist underpinning, somewhere along

the line, invariably, there will be White folk that

you will try to spin it into "whining", etc. Instead

of dealing with issues that are prevalent and

dominant.

 

But, as we saw with Sep 11, payback, is a bitch...

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

 

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