Erection of Mundane Chart

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If a Mundane chart has to be made to assess results of elections to the

parliament in a country, what data should be taken into account ? And what time

should be taken for erecting the chart--- On the election day the, Time when the

Voting starts or, ends or, sunrise or,sunset or, any other time ?

2.Will be grateful for guidance.

Regards,

Fayyaz

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I'm repeating my earlier message.

Someone may respond this time.

Regards,

Fayyaz

Fktareen

Full-name: Fktareen

Sat, 14 Sep 2002 20:14:54 EDT

Erection of Mundane Chart

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CC: gjlistDear List/ Gurus,

If a Mundane chart has to be made to assess results of elections to the

parliament in a country, what data should be taken into account ? And what time

should be taken for erecting the chart--- On the election day the, Time when the

Voting starts or, ends or, sunrise or,sunset or, any other time ?

2.Will be grateful for guidance.

Regards,

Fayyaz

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Dear Member

For predicting about the elections we should take the horoscope of the day

when election is going to take place. The time should be taken when the

voting for the elections starts. For predicting about the elections in India

we should also see the horoscope of the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada or the

1-day of the India’s lunar calendar. The time for this day is given in every

ephemeris and we should make the horoscope of that day and time and the

place should be Delhi. For other countries the time difference between that

country’s capital and Delhi should be deducted/added as the case may be from

the time of 1-day of lunar calendar of India.

Regards

Rajesh

 

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>Dear list,

>I'm repeating my earlier message.

>Someone may respond this time.

>

>Regards,

>Fayyaz

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Very Kind,

Regards,

Fayyaz

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Dear Nandini

 

Why for the time voting begins and not when the polls close or the

completion?

 

c

 

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"Nandini Dozers" <nandini_dz

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Monday, September 30, 2002 2:34 AM

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Dear Member

For predicting about the elections we should take the horoscope of the day

when election is going to take place. The time should be taken when the

voting for the elections starts. For predicting about the elections in India

we should also see the horoscope of the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada or the

1-day of the India's lunar calendar. The time for this day is given in every

ephemeris and we should make the horoscope of that day and time and the

place should be Delhi. For other countries the time difference between that

country's capital and Delhi should be deducted/added as the case may be from

the time of 1-day of lunar calendar of India.

Regards

Rajesh

 

>Fktareen

>gjlist

>vedic astrology

>CC: gjlist

>[GJ] Fwd: Erection of Mundane Chart

>Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:30:46 EDT

>

>Dear list,

>I'm repeating my earlier message.

>Someone may respond this time.

>

>Regards,

>Fayyaz

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gjlist, "cynthia novak" <cynthianovak@s...> wrote:

 

>>>>>>>>Why for the time voting begins and not when the polls close

or the completion?>>>>>>>>>

 

 

Dear Cynthia,

 

I feel the time of voting begins may be more logical.

why so?

 

1. We cast the chart for a child born and proceed further not the

moment of death of that child.

 

2. Of course, we do cast the chart at the time of death also for the

same child. - here we are reaching nowhere - except the departed

soul's upward journey where it goes ... again no proof ... no

research made in these directions so far.

 

3. Even Prashna charts are made for the "moment" you started asking

the question precisely.

 

4. At times voters never turn up to cast votes in a particular Booth.

 

5. At times voters gather in large number and all those who are

assembled in a booth well before the time of close of elections are

permitted to cast their votes even after the stipulated time of close

of polls. Now this process may even take much time than that of the

stipulated time of close of polls.

 

6. Each country has its own rules and instructions for the conduct of

polls ... what is the end/close of polls.

 

7. Hence the close of polling time in one particular booth cannot be

taken as the close of poll for the whole constituency or for that

matter the elections as a whole.

 

This is a very interesting area. I am a beginner in Mundane

astrology. Further insights are welcome.

 

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

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Hi everyone -

 

I have another point of view on this...not saying you're wrong, Ravi, just

something to

think about...

 

ravindramani [ravindramani]

Monday, September 30, 2002 11:33 PM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Fwd: Erection of Mundane Chart

 

gjlist, "cynthia novak" <cynthianovak@s...>

wrote:

 

>>>>>>>>Why for the time voting begins and not when the

polls close

or the completion?>>>>>>>>>

 

 

Dear Cynthia,

 

I feel the time of voting begins may be more logical.

why so?

 

1. We cast the chart for a child born and proceed further not the

moment of death of that child.

Would it not make more sense to think of the voting time as the "gestation"

period of the "vote", and the results of the vote as the "child"? I think

the

period following the vote (the term of office itself) is the child and hence

the

time of birth is the time the polls close. Or perhaps, it would make sense

to

do both charts - we don't cast only one chart for a person...

 

2. Of course, we do cast the chart at the time of death also for the

 

same child. - here we are reaching nowhere - except the departed

soul's upward journey where it goes ... again no proof ... no

research made in these directions so far.

 

3. Even Prashna charts are made for the "moment" you started asking

the question precisely.

 

4. At times voters never turn up to cast votes in a particular

Booth.

 

5. At times voters gather in large number and all those who are

assembled in a booth well before the time of close of elections are

permitted to cast their votes even after the stipulated time of

close

of polls. Now this process may even take much time than that of the

stipulated time of close of polls.

Perhaps the "announcement of victory" should then be the charted time...?

 

6. Each country has its own rules and instructions for the conduct

of

polls ... what is the end/close of polls.

 

7. Hence the close of polling time in one particular booth cannot be

 

taken as the close of poll for the whole constituency or for that

matter the elections as a whole.

But neither do they START at the same time, globally speaking (that is

"Zulu" time).

 

This is a very interesting area. I am a beginner in Mundane

astrology. Further insights are welcome.

Good arguments - and again, I'm not necessarily disagreeing - just putting

out

some other points. I may comment further as I think this through.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

Best regards to all,

Martin Michaels

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Dear All

 

I got serious about electional and horary astrology for a while as a western

astrologer. I found it more like reading tarot. I wanted the timing to be

accurate every time it just was not. You can argu that it will be with

Jyotish but I'm not convinced. I have a muhurta program that I got to try

and did not find it very good, mundane questions like this are a facet of

same.

 

Here is something I have found very useful. Look at the transits to the

charts of the people running for election.

 

There was some wise Vedic astrologer who said that you need a Rahu transit

to predic the win of an election. GWB had one on election day.

 

I believe I was taught to do a chart for the time the polls close but that

did not seem to work for the reasons we have already mentioned. With time

and place differences it is at best useful for local elections and I would

say not very useful at all.

 

Now there was a famous western astrologer Sydney Omar who used to calculate

charts for the time of horse races and he did well at the track with a

particular method of symbolism and astrology to pick the winner. I never

heard of any one else able to replicate his results. My guess is that he

read those charts more like tea leaves with an astrologers timing than any

form of orderly astrology. Still, he did well and ultimately became famous.

 

I'll stick to the natal chart and transits. Believe it or not the dahsas do

not seem that relevant at the time of election. I guess if you make it to

that point you already are in a good dasha, but the transits on or

approaching the election are worth their weight in predictive clarity.

 

c

[Guest guest]

Sounds very reasonable to me.

 

Best regards,

Martin

 

 

 

cynthia novak [cynthianovak]

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:13 PM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Fwd: Erection of Mundane Chart

 

 

Dear All

 

I got serious about electional and horary astrology for a while as a western

astrologer. I found it more like reading tarot. I wanted the timing to be

accurate every time it just was not. You can argu that it will be with

Jyotish but I'm not convinced. I have a muhurta program that I got to try

and did not find it very good, mundane questions like this are a facet of

same.

 

Here is something I have found very useful. Look at the transits to the

charts of the people running for election.

 

There was some wise Vedic astrologer who said that you need a Rahu transit

to predic the win of an election. GWB had one on election day.

 

I believe I was taught to do a chart for the time the polls close but that

did not seem to work for the reasons we have already mentioned. With time

and place differences it is at best useful for local elections and I would

say not very useful at all.

 

Now there was a famous western astrologer Sydney Omar who used to calculate

charts for the time of horse races and he did well at the track with a

particular method of symbolism and astrology to pick the winner. I never

heard of any one else able to replicate his results. My guess is that he

read those charts more like tea leaves with an astrologers timing than any

form of orderly astrology. Still, he did well and ultimately became famous.

 

I'll stick to the natal chart and transits. Believe it or not the dahsas do

not seem that relevant at the time of election. I guess if you make it to

that point you already are in a good dasha, but the transits on or

approaching the election are worth their weight in predictive clarity.

 

c

 

 

 

 

 

 

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