Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 Sir: It appears to me that YOU are the racist. You are the one seemingly claiming special supremacy, unwilling to accept that other cultures have their own wisdom within their culture. I for one have never said anything resembling "all religions are equal." For one thing, I don't believe that to be true - BUT, at the same time, I don't hold to the idea MY particular flavor of Christianity is any better or worse than any other. This much I will say, every "religion" I have ever been exposed to espouses that "one should treat others as you would have them treat oneself." So, in this way, all religions ARE universal. Yet, each expression within any given timeframe (I'm talking eras here) of a given "religion" is likely to be flavored somewhat by the times. For instance, one of the Ten Commandments is listed as "Thou shalt not kill." In fact, this is incorrect - the actual translation is "Thou shalt not do murder." But, the King James translation (and most other "modern" translations read as in the former. Judge not lest ye be judged... Best regards, Martin Venkateswara Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:22 PM vedic astrology; gjlist; reddyonline; something2share Cc: riturani; bobmer.javanet; dreddy; pjalan [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and their funding from CHURCH Dear Members, Lots of people in these with varying garbs rant a lot saying "all religions are equal, Christianity sees God in every form(a joke!), East+West = Great(I am a vedic and western astrologer)" One guy in Vedic-astrology complains that I am banishing Westerners. In reality, I am banishing this so called eurocentric supremacy. Not the race. Lots of whites are also againt "Colonization". Please differentiate MINDSET(such as eurocentricism, which is a epidimic among Aristotlian Education system) from RACE(where one is born, interstingly you can see lots of eurocentric garbage from indian origin). The fast growing field in US academic universities is "Dept of Religious studies", sponsored by Church, CIA et al. These thugs publish books saying "Ramakrisna paramahamsa and Vivekananda were homosexuals". Who is the publisher of this Book: THE GREAT UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO. See the following 40 page article(see printable version) by Sri Rajeev Malhotra of Infininity foundation at "RISA Lila - 1: Wendy's child Syndrome," posted at: http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 RISA = Religions IN South ASIA--An Academic body in West. One reader response to the above article is follows: "Forgive me, Rajiv: I have not been able to finish your article in its entirety...for health reasons. Reading your well written dissection/refutation of RISA scholar's "analysis" of Hinduism, unfortunately also involves reading their filthy nonsense, and I would need large doses of antiemetics before I could get thru that. It is the epitomy of irony that RISA scholars sought to boycott WAVES. WAVES and its sponsors, as well as Hindu organizations in India and abroad ought to boycott RISA: deny them access to source material, and boycott the products of their pathology, which they pass off for scholarship. American and Indian Hindus are entitled to know where RISA's funding comes from. It is quite disgusting that such pompous, hateful bigots find a way to earn money and prestige via such deconstructive bigotry. Thanks for laying their sickness bare. Judging from the reaction on Sulekha, many people would like to know how to help your efforts at Infinity Foundation. Could you give us an idea of how we can help? For instance, what kind of fundraising assistance does Infinity need and how can the community help? Many of us would like to see to it that the threats that you will never being able to get funding are proven idle ones. Sincerely, Satya" PS: forward this masterpiece to those, who intersted to seek truth. Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 Alright, Let the readers decide, rather than ranting: "Around fifty years ago, there was a partition of the guild of scholars who studied religion, and two organizations were created: AAR and SBL (Society of Biblical Literature). AAR and SBL maintain very close relations and influences, and hold their annual conferences jointly. While SBL members study and promote the insiders' view of Judeo-Christianity, AAR members are supposed to pursue the objective view from outside a given tradition and to not promote anything. However, as I have noted many times, outsiders to Hinduism are insiders to Judeo-Christianity, and/or to Western Feminism, and/or to Marxism, and/or to other ideologies, and hence they are not "neutral" as advertised." Extracted from http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 See how Indologist Wendy wrote about Bhagvadgita?. Who is sponsoring? Unbiased examination into this would give clue, who is sponsoring. gjlist, "MICHAELS, MARTIN (AIT)" <mm6365@s...> wrote: > Sir: > > It appears to me that YOU are the racist. You are the one seemingly > claiming special supremacy, unwilling to accept that other cultures > have their own wisdom within their culture. I for one have never said > anything resembling "all religions are equal." For one thing, I don't > believe that to be true - BUT, at the same time, I don't hold to the > idea MY particular flavor of Christianity is any better or worse than > any other. This much I will say, every "religion" I have ever been > exposed to espouses that "one should treat others as you would have them > treat oneself." So, in this way, all religions ARE universal. > > Yet, each expression within any given timeframe (I'm talking eras here) > of a given "religion" is likely to be flavored somewhat by the times. > For instance, one of the Ten Commandments is listed as "Thou shalt not > kill." In fact, this is incorrect - the actual translation is "Thou > shalt not do murder." But, the King James translation (and most other > "modern" translations read as in the former. > > Judge not lest ye be judged... > > Best regards, > Martin > > > Venkateswara Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:22 PM > vedic astrology; gjlist; > reddyonline; something2share > Cc: riturani; bobmer.javanet@r...; dreddy@i...; > pjalan@s... > [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and their > funding from CHURCH > > > Dear Members, > Lots of people in these with varying garbs > rant a lot saying "all religions are equal, > Christianity sees God in every form(a joke!), > East+West = Great(I am a vedic and western > astrologer)" > > One guy in Vedic-astrology complains that I am > banishing Westerners. In reality, I am banishing this > so called eurocentric supremacy. Not the race. Lots of > whites are also againt "Colonization". Please > differentiate MINDSET(such as eurocentricism, which is > a epidimic among Aristotlian Education system) from > RACE(where one is born, interstingly you can see lots > of eurocentric garbage from indian origin). > > > The fast growing field in US academic universities is > "Dept of Religious studies", sponsored by Church, CIA > et al. These thugs publish books saying "Ramakrisna > paramahamsa and Vivekananda were homosexuals". Who is > the publisher of this Book: THE GREAT UNIVERSITY OF > CHICAGO. See the following 40 page article(see > printable version) by Sri Rajeev Malhotra of > Infininity foundation at > > "RISA Lila - 1: Wendy's child Syndrome," posted at: > http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 > > > RISA = Religions IN South ASIA--An Academic body in > West. > > > One reader response to the above article is follows: > > "Forgive me, Rajiv: I have not been able to finish > your article in its entirety...for health reasons. > Reading your well written dissection/refutation > of RISA scholar's "analysis" of Hinduism, > unfortunately also involves reading their filthy > nonsense, and I would need large doses of antiemetics > before I could get thru that. It is the epitomy of > irony that RISA scholars sought to boycott WAVES. > WAVES > and its sponsors, as well as Hindu organizations in > India and abroad ought to boycott RISA: deny them > access to source material, and boycott the products of > their pathology, which they pass off for scholarship. > American and Indian Hindus are entitled to know where > RISA's funding comes from. It is quite disgusting that > such pompous, hateful bigots find a way to earn money > and prestige via such deconstructive bigotry. Thanks > for laying their sickness bare. Judging from the > reaction on Sulekha, many people would like to know > how to help your efforts at Infinity Foundation. Could > you give us an idea of how we can help? For instance, > what kind of fundraising assistance does Infinity need > and how can the community help? Many of us would like > to see to it that the threats that you will never > being > able to get funding are proven idle ones. > Sincerely, > Satya" > > > > PS: forward this masterpiece to those, who intersted > to seek truth. > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist-@e... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 Do we need to discuss all this CRAP here?? venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Monday, September 09, 2002 1:35 PM gjlist Re: [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and thei r funding from CHURCH Alright, Let the readers decide, rather than ranting: "Around fifty years ago, there was a partition of the guild of scholars who studied religion, and two organizations were created: AAR and SBL (Society of Biblical Literature). AAR and SBL maintain very close relations and influences, and hold their annual conferences jointly. While SBL members study and promote the insiders' view of Judeo-Christianity, AAR members are supposed to pursue the objective view from outside a given tradition and to not promote anything. However, as I have noted many times, outsiders to Hinduism are insiders to Judeo-Christianity, and/or to Western Feminism, and/or to Marxism, and/or to other ideologies, and hence they are not "neutral" as advertised." Extracted from http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 See how Indologist Wendy wrote about Bhagvadgita?. Who is sponsoring? Unbiased examination into this would give clue, who is sponsoring. gjlist, "MICHAELS, MARTIN (AIT)" <mm6365@s...> wrote: > Sir: > > It appears to me that YOU are the racist. You are the one seemingly > claiming special supremacy, unwilling to accept that other cultures > have their own wisdom within their culture. I for one have never said > anything resembling "all religions are equal." For one thing, I don't > believe that to be true - BUT, at the same time, I don't hold to the > idea MY particular flavor of Christianity is any better or worse than > any other. This much I will say, every "religion" I have ever been > exposed to espouses that "one should treat others as you would have them > treat oneself." So, in this way, all religions ARE universal. > > Yet, each expression within any given timeframe (I'm talking eras here) > of a given "religion" is likely to be flavored somewhat by the times. > For instance, one of the Ten Commandments is listed as "Thou shalt not > kill." In fact, this is incorrect - the actual translation is "Thou > shalt not do murder." But, the King James translation (and most other > "modern" translations read as in the former. > > Judge not lest ye be judged... > > Best regards, > Martin > > > Venkateswara Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:22 PM > vedic astrology; gjlist; > reddyonline; something2share > Cc: riturani; bobmer.javanet@r...; dreddy@i...; > pjalan@s... > [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and their > funding from CHURCH > > > Dear Members, > Lots of people in these with varying garbs > rant a lot saying "all religions are equal, > Christianity sees God in every form(a joke!), > East+West = Great(I am a vedic and western > astrologer)" > > One guy in Vedic-astrology complains that I am > banishing Westerners. In reality, I am banishing this > so called eurocentric supremacy. Not the race. Lots of > whites are also againt "Colonization". Please > differentiate MINDSET(such as eurocentricism, which is > a epidimic among Aristotlian Education system) from > RACE(where one is born, interstingly you can see lots > of eurocentric garbage from indian origin). > > > The fast growing field in US academic universities is > "Dept of Religious studies", sponsored by Church, CIA > et al. These thugs publish books saying "Ramakrisna > paramahamsa and Vivekananda were homosexuals". Who is > the publisher of this Book: THE GREAT UNIVERSITY OF > CHICAGO. See the following 40 page article(see > printable version) by Sri Rajeev Malhotra of > Infininity foundation at > > "RISA Lila - 1: Wendy's child Syndrome," posted at: > http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 > > > RISA = Religions IN South ASIA--An Academic body in > West. > > > One reader response to the above article is follows: > > "Forgive me, Rajiv: I have not been able to finish > your article in its entirety...for health reasons. > Reading your well written dissection/refutation > of RISA scholar's "analysis" of Hinduism, > unfortunately also involves reading their filthy > nonsense, and I would need large doses of antiemetics > before I could get thru that. It is the epitomy of > irony that RISA scholars sought to boycott WAVES. > WAVES > and its sponsors, as well as Hindu organizations in > India and abroad ought to boycott RISA: deny them > access to source material, and boycott the products of > their pathology, which they pass off for scholarship. > American and Indian Hindus are entitled to know where > RISA's funding comes from. It is quite disgusting that > such pompous, hateful bigots find a way to earn money > and prestige via such deconstructive bigotry. Thanks > for laying their sickness bare. Judging from the > reaction on Sulekha, many people would like to know > how to help your efforts at Infinity Foundation. Could > you give us an idea of how we can help? For instance, > what kind of fundraising assistance does Infinity need > and how can the community help? Many of us would like > to see to it that the threats that you will never > being > able to get funding are proven idle ones. > Sincerely, > Satya" > > > > PS: forward this masterpiece to those, who intersted > to seek truth. > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist-@e... > > > > Your use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 No, we don't - I have no idea where he is getting this either... OR why it was brought up in the first place. I, for one, am done with it... Martin By the way, "denegation" means to deny; "denigration" (probably what he meant) means 1) to blacken, or 2) to cast aspersions on : DEFAME 3) to deny the importance or validity of : BELITTLE Pavan Vemuri [pk-vemuri] Monday, September 09, 2002 1:47 PM gjlist RE: [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and thei r funding from CHURCH Do we need to discuss all this CRAP here?? venkateshwara_reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Monday, September 09, 2002 1:35 PM gjlist Re: [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and thei r funding from CHURCH Alright, Let the readers decide, rather than ranting: "Around fifty years ago, there was a partition of the guild of scholars who studied religion, and two organizations were created: AAR and SBL (Society of Biblical Literature). AAR and SBL maintain very close relations and influences, and hold their annual conferences jointly. While SBL members study and promote the insiders' view of Judeo-Christianity, AAR members are supposed to pursue the objective view from outside a given tradition and to not promote anything. However, as I have noted many times, outsiders to Hinduism are insiders to Judeo-Christianity, and/or to Western Feminism, and/or to Marxism, and/or to other ideologies, and hence they are not "neutral" as advertised." Extracted from http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 See how Indologist Wendy wrote about Bhagvadgita?. Who is sponsoring? Unbiased examination into this would give clue, who is sponsoring. gjlist, "MICHAELS, MARTIN (AIT)" <mm6365@s...> wrote: > Sir: > > It appears to me that YOU are the racist. You are the one seemingly > claiming special supremacy, unwilling to accept that other cultures > have their own wisdom within their culture. I for one have never said > anything resembling "all religions are equal." For one thing, I don't > believe that to be true - BUT, at the same time, I don't hold to the > idea MY particular flavor of Christianity is any better or worse than > any other. This much I will say, every "religion" I have ever been > exposed to espouses that "one should treat others as you would have them > treat oneself." So, in this way, all religions ARE universal. > > Yet, each expression within any given timeframe (I'm talking eras here) > of a given "religion" is likely to be flavored somewhat by the times. > For instance, one of the Ten Commandments is listed as "Thou shalt not > kill." In fact, this is incorrect - the actual translation is "Thou > shalt not do murder." But, the King James translation (and most other > "modern" translations read as in the former. > > Judge not lest ye be judged... > > Best regards, > Martin > > > Venkateswara Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:22 PM > vedic astrology; gjlist; > reddyonline; something2share > Cc: riturani; bobmer.javanet@r...; dreddy@i...; > pjalan@s... > [GJ] ATTN: Denigation of hindu-s by WESTERN academia and their > funding from CHURCH > > > Dear Members, > Lots of people in these with varying garbs > rant a lot saying "all religions are equal, > Christianity sees God in every form(a joke!), > East+West = Great(I am a vedic and western > astrologer)" > > One guy in Vedic-astrology complains that I am > banishing Westerners. In reality, I am banishing this > so called eurocentric supremacy. Not the race. Lots of > whites are also againt "Colonization". Please > differentiate MINDSET(such as eurocentricism, which is > a epidimic among Aristotlian Education system) from > RACE(where one is born, interstingly you can see lots > of eurocentric garbage from indian origin). > > > The fast growing field in US academic universities is > "Dept of Religious studies", sponsored by Church, CIA > et al. These thugs publish books saying "Ramakrisna > paramahamsa and Vivekananda were homosexuals". Who is > the publisher of this Book: THE GREAT UNIVERSITY OF > CHICAGO. See the following 40 page article(see > printable version) by Sri Rajeev Malhotra of > Infininity foundation at > > "RISA Lila - 1: Wendy's child Syndrome," posted at: > http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=239156 > > > RISA = Religions IN South ASIA--An Academic body in > West. > > > One reader response to the above article is follows: > > "Forgive me, Rajiv: I have not been able to finish > your article in its entirety...for health reasons. > Reading your well written dissection/refutation > of RISA scholar's "analysis" of Hinduism, > unfortunately also involves reading their filthy > nonsense, and I would need large doses of antiemetics > before I could get thru that. It is the epitomy of > irony that RISA scholars sought to boycott WAVES. > WAVES > and its sponsors, as well as Hindu organizations in > India and abroad ought to boycott RISA: deny them > access to source material, and boycott the products of > their pathology, which they pass off for scholarship. > American and Indian Hindus are entitled to know where > RISA's funding comes from. It is quite disgusting that > such pompous, hateful bigots find a way to earn money > and prestige via such deconstructive bigotry. Thanks > for laying their sickness bare. Judging from the > reaction on Sulekha, many people would like to know > how to help your efforts at Infinity Foundation. Could > you give us an idea of how we can help? For instance, > what kind of fundraising assistance does Infinity need > and how can the community help? Many of us would like > to see to it that the threats that you will never > being > able to get funding are proven idle ones. > Sincerely, > Satya" > > > > PS: forward this masterpiece to those, who intersted > to seek truth. > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist-@e... > > > > Your use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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