Help Learning/Finding Keltish Objects and more....

[Guest guest]

Hello Friends,

 

 

 

Excuse this, I ask those, for whom it applies not.

 

 

 

 

I am seeking to own, and would appreciate acquiring:

 

 

 

 

1. Any Keltish gold neck tork that is over 2000 years old

and wearable. Similarly, the traditional belt ends,

bracelets, anything of this sort, of which there has been

much excavated, though of course, all priceless, still, I

would like one.

 

2. The sword of Verkingetorix, or his tork, or belt, or

anything from him or his family. Any news of exactly where

they lived or anything. I need to go to places, as well as

touch and see items.

 

3. Any broach over 2000 years old, Roman or Celtic only

however. There are many thousands of these to be had. I

deserve one of them (can I say that :-?). Silver, copper,

bronze, don't care- Give me the Tara Bbroach best, but

anything in line thereafter, accepted.

 

4. Need to acquire MacKay tartan cloth, and others. Any

knowledge of best places, websites, etc., or is there

someone who could buy it herself and send it to me from

Scotland or Ireland? I will pay you back, and a little extra

as per your wish for your efforts. I don't want it to

travel through bad vibes land, so I'm thinking please from

Ire or Scot, not Buerla, but I leave that to you to sussout

for me if need be, and I accept, your advice being the

purification I will see upon it.

 

5. Need to acquire broaches of modern origin if #3 above

bears no fruit, which will surely sad, as I'm expecting #3

to be the most responsive to me, as it is most possible, 4

being a fore gone khan kludgian.

 

6. Any input on sources for standard items would be good.

Web sites and input from those who know would be helpful.

Seeking access to all things of the modern clann tartan

system, as well as all things ancient Keltish before the

conversion.

 

7. Need Moed seeds, ready to go flowers, etc. Want this very

badly. Anyone can buy or get me moed for making face paint?

Instructions to grow it etc.

 

8. Any ancient artifacts which I can see and most wonderful,

actually touch.

 

9. Acceptance and love, no matter how crazy you with others

think I am.

 

10. Anyone in France, please tell me how to visit Alesia,

what airport it is closest to, for example. I need to plan a

trip to Ireland and also then France to go to Alesia, and

any existing or restored ibicos, where are they so that I

can visit etc. I in other words need a French guide who

cares about me to show me pre-fall Gaulish places of

importance. Carnutes, Alesia, etc.

 

11. Is there someone reading who would show me Ireland in

the proper way so that I can breathe on the tour, ie, must

be sensitive enough. Got one offer, so good, already.

 

12. Books books books. If you have material, and are not

using it, I'm all ears and eyes. Artifacts, books, etc., the

older the better, the more related to the old ways, before

conversion, the better, I know, "go to Ireland". I will. But

til then. This note. My apartment is a great place to study,

so quiet next to road.

 

13. Hi, I'm abandoned. I don't have anything to say. I'm

#13. I'm the family weirdo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re Verki's stuff, knowing where it is if locked up would be

good. Does anyone in Italy or France have a way to find out

for me- surely the Caesarites, I hope, kept his stuff. Maybe

they trashed his body and all his stuff together, I don't

know. I would like to know. I would like to know where are

the material remains of Verki and his goods at time of

death, clothes, weapons, effects, etc. Any descriptions of

him would be appreciated too. Any books sent to me will be

cherished, pictures, maps, anything, everything, from

Keltish times, prior to the fall. Does he have a grave in

Rome, or did they just burn him or what?

 

 

Believe it or not, all of this applies to astrology, for

those wondering "why use this list".

 

 

My aims are always the same, end suffering by showing truth,

and spirit, but to do that, I have to research it more and

more and more.

 

 

I am open to any and all input and criticisms.

 

 

Your brother,

 

 

Roik

das goravani

[Guest guest]

Dear Das,

 

You may be interested to know that last year I made a trip from my homeland

in south africa to Scotland to discover my roots. I found them. In a little

village called Douglas in southern Lanarkshire. I come from the Black

Douglas strain on my mother's side of the Douglas family: Sir James Douglas,

who was killed at Teba in Spain on his way to the Holy City carrying Sir

Robert Bruce's heart to bury, as per his instructions, in the Holy Land.

 

Although of a later vintage than what you are seeking, I want to share with

you how important that trip was to me, how, when i walked into that tiny

little church which has been standing there since who knows when and saw the

sarcophagi of these people (one of whom was the splitting image of my

mother), I was revitalised in a way that is difficult to describe.

 

I took many photographs and wrote many articles on the whole history and my

family's background. It was the best trip I have ever done for myself.

 

Just wanted to share that with you. Good luck.

 

Robyn

 

 

 

 

-

"Das Goravani" <>

"John Melka" <johnm; <michaeldwyer;

<gjlist>

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:26 PM

[GJ] Help Learning/Finding Keltish Objects and more....

 

 

>

> Hello Friends,

>

>

>

> Excuse this, I ask those, for whom it applies not.

>

>

>

>

> I am seeking to own, and would appreciate acquiring:

>

>

>

>

> 1. Any Keltish gold neck tork that is over 2000 years old

> and wearable. Similarly, the traditional belt ends,

> bracelets, anything of this sort, of which there has been

> much excavated, though of course, all priceless, still, I

> would like one.

>

> 2. The sword of Verkingetorix, or his tork, or belt, or

> anything from him or his family. Any news of exactly where

> they lived or anything. I need to go to places, as well as

> touch and see items.

>

> 3. Any broach over 2000 years old, Roman or Celtic only

> however. There are many thousands of these to be had. I

> deserve one of them (can I say that :-?). Silver, copper,

> bronze, don't care- Give me the Tara Bbroach best, but

> anything in line thereafter, accepted.

>

> 4. Need to acquire MacKay tartan cloth, and others. Any

> knowledge of best places, websites, etc., or is there

> someone who could buy it herself and send it to me from

> Scotland or Ireland? I will pay you back, and a little extra

> as per your wish for your efforts. I don't want it to

> travel through bad vibes land, so I'm thinking please from

> Ire or Scot, not Buerla, but I leave that to you to sussout

> for me if need be, and I accept, your advice being the

> purification I will see upon it.

>

> 5. Need to acquire broaches of modern origin if #3 above

> bears no fruit, which will surely sad, as I'm expecting #3

> to be the most responsive to me, as it is most possible, 4

> being a fore gone khan kludgian.

>

> 6. Any input on sources for standard items would be good.

> Web sites and input from those who know would be helpful.

> Seeking access to all things of the modern clann tartan

> system, as well as all things ancient Keltish before the

> conversion.

>

> 7. Need Moed seeds, ready to go flowers, etc. Want this very

> badly. Anyone can buy or get me moed for making face paint?

> Instructions to grow it etc.

>

> 8. Any ancient artifacts which I can see and most wonderful,

> actually touch.

>

> 9. Acceptance and love, no matter how crazy you with others

> think I am.

>

> 10. Anyone in France, please tell me how to visit Alesia,

> what airport it is closest to, for example. I need to plan a

> trip to Ireland and also then France to go to Alesia, and

> any existing or restored ibicos, where are they so that I

> can visit etc. I in other words need a French guide who

> cares about me to show me pre-fall Gaulish places of

> importance. Carnutes, Alesia, etc.

>

> 11. Is there someone reading who would show me Ireland in

> the proper way so that I can breathe on the tour, ie, must

> be sensitive enough. Got one offer, so good, already.

>

> 12. Books books books. If you have material, and are not

> using it, I'm all ears and eyes. Artifacts, books, etc., the

> older the better, the more related to the old ways, before

> conversion, the better, I know, "go to Ireland". I will. But

> til then. This note. My apartment is a great place to study,

> so quiet next to road.

>

> 13. Hi, I'm abandoned. I don't have anything to say. I'm

> #13. I'm the family weirdo.

>

Re Verki's stuff, knowing where it is if locked up would be

> good. Does anyone in Italy or France have a way to find out

> for me- surely the Caesarites, I hope, kept his stuff. Maybe

> they trashed his body and all his stuff together, I don't

> know. I would like to know. I would like to know where are

> the material remains of Verki and his goods at time of

> death, clothes, weapons, effects, etc. Any descriptions of

> him would be appreciated too. Any books sent to me will be

> cherished, pictures, maps, anything, everything, from

> Keltish times, prior to the fall. Does he have a grave in

> Rome, or did they just burn him or what?

>

>

> Believe it or not, all of this applies to astrology, for

> those wondering "why use this list".

>

>

> My aims are always the same, end suffering by showing truth,

> and spirit, but to do that, I have to research it more and

> more and more.

>

>

> I am open to any and all input and criticisms.

>

>

> Your brother,

>

>

> Roik

> das goravani

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 8/20/02 at 1:26 PM Das Goravani wrote:

 

>2. The sword of Verkingetorix, or his tork, or belt, or

>anything from him or his family. Any news of exactly where

>they lived or anything. I need to go to places, as well as

>touch and see items.

>

 

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4934/rixmain.html

 

Just a trick, when you see something in Gaelic spelled with the Romanesque

lettering

like a K, for instance, substitute the letter C. There is no K in Gaelic, there

is no need for it

S is always SH and C is always K.

 

-- John

 

 

Strange but stupid:

"One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero,

they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs"

(Weren't Roman C programs always 500 lines long?)

John F (Jack) Melka

[Guest guest]

om gurave namah

 

Dear Das,

It is nice to hear you are planning on coming to Ireland. It will be a

great pleasure to meet you here. On your exploration of all that is Celtic

you need to be aware that most artefacts that you request would be in a

museum. The story of Ireland is survival in spite of attempts to eliminate

all traces of our unique culture. Your search for magic is in the people

not in the objects. This magic you have yourself as part of your own

heritage. You only recognise it when you come home to it. Let me know when

you plan to visit and I will try to get you a guide. You could also teach

and maybe even find that significant other you are looking for.

 

Sanjay Rath will be in Ukiah, California from 22nd August and I will be

there until the 27th . It would be great to meet up with you.

 

We just had our 1st ever Jyotish Conference in Ireland with Sanjay. It was

a great success . A video of the event will be available shortly as well as

the lecture notes. The people here are very new to Jyotish and were

mesmerised by his wisdom, humour and generosity. We are hopeful that this

will be the first of many such events.

 

Be well and I look forward to meeting you in Ireland if not in America this

week.

 

Best wishes, Pearl.

[Guest guest]

Hello

 

I will go to see Sanjay, as that is only 4 or 5 hours drive

South on the Coast. I must, oh darn, drive through the

ancient redwoods to get there.

 

I would like to meet you there, and talk, then again in

Ireland sometime soon.

 

I know what you say. I have a special ability however to

feel and know through objects... you know, I need only see

them in museums.

 

By the way, I totally knew that. I was writing half in gest

and in a kind of mystical calling of force. I know the Tara

broach and Verki's gear, are all going to be worth BILLIONS

and UNAVAILABLE for touch or purchase, period. I know that.

 

I do however think that private collectors have tons of

those torks and broaches. I will one day own and wear both

from pre Roman times. This is my private little unimportant

passion. However, objects carry their own oras and

historical records within them, and this goes into me

easily. I will go to Museums in Ireland, Scotland, France,

possibly Scandinavia, and Rome. I will see the things, sit

for a few minutes with them, and then bear the immense flood

of vision that will follow, as best I can, then eventually

when it lives in me after the flood of pain, I can speak on

it more lucidly. This is my goal. It works for me.

 

So understand the gest, the quest, the reason, and know that

I know, where what I say is either materially impossible or

even ridiculous. That doesn't make it an invalid thing to me.

 

For example, I still do need to know, did the belongings of

Verki survive? Did they? I need to know that. I am asking

that, but I'll find it out myself eventually anyway. The

other day someone told me about the rock of "swoon" (?), (it

was over the phone), and this is a rock currently in

Scotland, which is from Ancient Egypt, some sort of gift to

the Kings of Tara maybe, long ago...

 

Things like this are like telephones for some of us. Call it

imagination, it may be. What I get thereby though is

incredibly real to me. Whatever. It's important to me

personally to get near these actual objects, whichever of

them still exist. They provide the continuity of truth and

vision. Their existence in my presence gives me the ability

to feel ages in seconds, and thus feel the conclusion, the

moral, the story, the current part of the play. It's very

exilerating, and taxing, but I can't really stop, and I've

found the inner part of me which is my refuge from it all,

in other words, strength. So I'm not afraid of it anymore.

 

The people are however, the most real and important fact of

all, they are it, the thing, we are, the people. Yes,

especially in Keltic belief, there especially, the people

are the people, and there is no substitute for that. If you

want to know a thing in Keltic thought, I've come to know,

simply look at that thing itself currently. I don't know if

I'm clear. In other words, I get it clearly, that for us,

us, currently, we are our reality, and it is where we are

now, and we have always been who we are, cyclically, and

evolutionarily one in stride with ourselves through many

stages that Mother has planned, this being a particularly

long and hard phase of 2000 years recent.

 

I am charmed that though believing in evolution ever since,

they also held onto the conception of liberation, and

reincarnation, to use modern terms for the more difficult to

describe Keltic beliefs system. I have been doing so much

reading, I can see it pretty clearly, I think. I can

therefore understand quite deeply actually, the import of

your words that "the magic is in the people". I know how

that is said in a common way, and for me, it has incredibly

deep meaning, which is both comforting and disconcerting;

comforting being easily understood; the second I can tell

you is because living with them for 42 years now, I feel for

me I have to be honest and say, that we are still way

knocked down, if I am any barometer. My life tells me, that

there is work to do, in reviving our inner spirits, some of

us. The people I've seen and known tell me so in the

confusion and sorrow on their faces and the faces of their

lives actions. Some of us always wish better for everyone.

This passion can be the source of great pain for many, so it

must be questioned and checked, constantly, I know.

 

your loving brother,

 

 

 

roik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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