Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

August 13, 2002

Sunday, August 11, 2002

All,

The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

cure.

Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

National Rifle Association and has been its President

since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

comes to AD.

Charlton Heston

Oct 4, 1923

7:55am

CST

Evanston, IL

USA

Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

thru the horoscope.

While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

one has the ability to be both in its own AND

exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

intelligence, logic and all other functions that

separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

important role in matters related to disease.

Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

Mercury in the horoscope.

Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

things that they represent.

To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

Moon's view.

Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

placement in the 12.

Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

this just goes to underscore a very important

principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

weakened, if not destroyed outright.

Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

Gemini.

I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

shown themselves to play an important role when it

comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

With all this said, it should come as no surprise

then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

very same combination of planets that have played a

role in Heston's current situation have also brought

him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

(The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

represent many different things, on different levels,

at different times.

Salaam,

Mu

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August 13, 2002

Dear Mu and others.

HEston has a perfect Danda yoga formed by all the planets in consecutive

houes 10-1. This yoga makes a person loose everything in life and is quite

severe. I always wondered how he could loose it all after having such a

successful life and being adored by so many people. Loosing his mind is

certainly loosing it all- so the Danda yoga gives the foundation for

something of this sort to happen. Generally people with Danda yoga loose

things slowly- thier spouse, then thier job, then the respect of their

children, peers, etc.

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

-

"Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:43 AM

[GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Sunday, August 11, 2002

>

> All,

> The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> cure.

>

> Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> National Rifle Association and has been its President

> since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

>

> A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> comes to AD.

>

> Charlton Heston

> Oct 4, 1923

> 7:55am

> CST

> Evanston, IL

> USA

> Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

>

> When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> thru the horoscope.

>

> While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> important role in matters related to disease.

> Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> Mercury in the horoscope.

>

> Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> things that they represent.

>

> To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> Moon's view.

>

> Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> placement in the 12.

>

> Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

>

> When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> this just goes to underscore a very important

> principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> weakened, if not destroyed outright.

>

> Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> Gemini.

>

> I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> shown themselves to play an important role when it

> comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

>

> With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

>

> If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

>

> Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> very same combination of planets that have played a

> role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> represent many different things, on different levels,

> at different times.

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

>

> =====

> Mu'Min M. Bey

> Western and Vedic Astrologer

> mumin_bey

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August 14, 2002

Dear Mu

How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status in

the industry .

Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is running

Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

Thanks in advance

Nicholas

-

"Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

Cc: <panastroforum

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

[GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Sunday, August 11, 2002

>

> All,

> The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> cure.

>

> Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> National Rifle Association and has been its President

> since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

>

> A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> comes to AD.

>

> Charlton Heston

> Oct 4, 1923

> 7:55am

> CST

> Evanston, IL

> USA

> Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

>

> When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> thru the horoscope.

>

> While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> important role in matters related to disease.

> Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> Mercury in the horoscope.

>

> Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> things that they represent.

>

> To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> Moon's view.

>

> Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> placement in the 12.

>

> Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

>

> When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> this just goes to underscore a very important

> principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> weakened, if not destroyed outright.

>

> Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> Gemini.

>

> I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> shown themselves to play an important role when it

> comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

>

> With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

>

> If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

>

> Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> very same combination of planets that have played a

> role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> represent many different things, on different levels,

> at different times.

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

>

> =====

> Mu'Min M. Bey

> Western and Vedic Astrologer

> mumin_bey

> AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu

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August 14, 2002

question: does anyone know if Ronald Reagan (also an Alzheimer's

disease patient) and Bill Clinton (talk about a man who loses - or

may lose - everything, including respect) have danda yoga?

gjlist, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote:

> Dear Mu and others.

> HEston has a perfect Danda yoga formed by all the planets in

consecutive

> houes 10-1. This yoga makes a person loose everything in life and

is quite

> severe. I always wondered how he could loose it all after having

such a

> successful life and being adored by so many people. Loosing his

mind is

> certainly loosing it all- so the Danda yoga gives the foundation for

> something of this sort to happen. Generally people with Danda yoga

loose

> things slowly- thier spouse, then thier job, then the respect of

their

> children, peers, etc.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

> -

> "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey>

> <gjlist>

> Cc: <panastroforum@t...>

> Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:43 AM

> [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> >

> > All,

> > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > cure.

> >

> > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> >

> > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > comes to AD.

> >

> > Charlton Heston

> > Oct 4, 1923

> > 7:55am

> > CST

> > Evanston, IL

> > USA

> > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> >

> > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > thru the horoscope.

> >

> > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > important role in matters related to disease.

> > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > Mercury in the horoscope.

> >

> > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > things that they represent.

> >

> > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > Moon's view.

> >

> > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > placement in the 12.

> >

> > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> >

> > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> >

> > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > Gemini.

> >

> > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> >

> > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> >

> > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> >

> > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > at different times.

> >

> > Salaam,

> > Mu

> >

> > =====

> > Mu'Min M. Bey

> > Western and Vedic Astrologer

> > mumin_bey

> > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu

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> 267-978-2812

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> >

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> >

August 15, 2002

Dear ???

CLinton has two prevelant Nabhasa/Akriti Yogas, Ardha Chandra and Danda.

Ardha chandra is good foundation yoga, so he will probably only loose half.

Though REagan lost his mind largely due to the Saturn Moon Rahu in Aries, he

maintained his marriage and continued to make public appearances.

If you are interested in the Nabhasa YOgas more, please visit my site where

I have an extenive article on them. www.vedic astrology.net

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm

-

"idasgupta98" <idasgupta98

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:46 PM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> question: does anyone know if Ronald Reagan (also an Alzheimer's

> disease patient) and Bill Clinton (talk about a man who loses - or

> may lose - everything, including respect) have danda yoga?

>

> gjlist, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote:

> > Dear Mu and others.

> > HEston has a perfect Danda yoga formed by all the planets in

> consecutive

> > houes 10-1. This yoga makes a person loose everything in life and

> is quite

> > severe. I always wondered how he could loose it all after having

> such a

> > successful life and being adored by so many people. Loosing his

> mind is

> > certainly loosing it all- so the Danda yoga gives the foundation for

> > something of this sort to happen. Generally people with Danda yoga

> loose

> > things slowly- thier spouse, then thier job, then the respect of

> their

> > children, peers, etc.

> >

> > Take Care,

> > Ernst Wilhelm

> >

> > -

> > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey>

> > <gjlist>

> > Cc: <panastroforum@t...>

> > Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:43 AM

> > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> >

> > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > >

> > > All,

> > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > cure.

> > >

> > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > >

> > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > comes to AD.

> > >

> > > Charlton Heston

> > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > 7:55am

> > > CST

> > > Evanston, IL

> > > USA

> > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > >

> > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > thru the horoscope.

> > >

> > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > >

> > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > things that they represent.

> > >

> > > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > > Moon's view.

> > >

> > > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > > placement in the 12.

> > >

> > > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> > >

> > > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> > >

> > > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > > Gemini.

> > >

> > > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> > >

> > > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> > >

> > > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> > >

> > > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > > at different times.

> > >

> > > Salaam,

> > > Mu

> > >

> > > =====

> > > Mu'Min M. Bey

> > > Western and Vedic Astrologer

> > > mumin_bey

> > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu

> > > 2Way Pager: 1-877-345-6499/8773456499@p...; Cell phone:

> > 267-978-2812

> > > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological

> Thought

> > Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum-@t...

> > >

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> > > http://www.hotjobs.com

> > >

> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > > : gjlist-@e...

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

August 15, 2002

Dear Mu,

I am yust for a few month studying Jyotish,

now I am also new here on this list,

on your analyse now from the Chart Charlton Heston,

I have some questions,

1) is there a fix rule for the relationship between the planets,

you said, par exampel > Venus and Rahu are in 2/12 relationship,

what does it mean exactly?

further you said, it is important to look always for the strenght in the

Navamsa also,

now >> when a planet ist already debilitated in Rasi, can now the Navamsa

if there is the planet strong, balance this planet??

thankyou for you answer

with greetings from Vienna gefri

-

"Nicholas" <jyotish108

Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:30 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Mu

> How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status in

> the industry .

> Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is running

> Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> Thanks in advance

> Nicholas

>

> -

> "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

> <gjlist>

> Cc: <panastroforum

> Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> >

> > All,

> > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > cure.

> >

> > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> >

> > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > comes to AD.

> >

> > Charlton Heston

> > Oct 4, 1923

> > 7:55am

> > CST

> > Evanston, IL

> > USA

> > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> >

> > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > thru the horoscope.

> >

> > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > important role in matters related to disease.

> > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > Mercury in the horoscope.

> >

> > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > things that they represent.

> >

> > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > Moon's view.

> >

> > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > placement in the 12.

> >

> > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> >

> > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> >

> > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > Gemini.

> >

> > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> >

> > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> >

> > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> >

> > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > at different times.

> >

> > Salaam,

> > Mu

> >

> > =====

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August 16, 2002

Thank you Ernst. I will go check out your site.

idg.

gjlist, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote:

> Dear ???

>

> CLinton has two prevelant Nabhasa/Akriti Yogas, Ardha Chandra

and Danda.

> Ardha chandra is good foundation yoga, so he will probably only

loose half.

>

> Though REagan lost his mind largely due to the Saturn Moon Rahu in

Aries, he

> maintained his marriage and continued to make public appearances.

>

> If you are interested in the Nabhasa YOgas more, please visit my

site where

> I have an extenive article on them. www.vedic astrology.net

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

> -

> "idasgupta98" <idasgupta98>

> <gjlist>

> Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:46 PM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > question: does anyone know if Ronald Reagan (also an Alzheimer's

> > disease patient) and Bill Clinton (talk about a man who loses - or

> > may lose - everything, including respect) have danda yoga?

> >

> > gjlist, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote:

> > > Dear Mu and others.

> > > HEston has a perfect Danda yoga formed by all the planets in

> > consecutive

> > > houes 10-1. This yoga makes a person loose everything in life

and

> > is quite

> > > severe. I always wondered how he could loose it all after having

> > such a

> > > successful life and being adored by so many people. Loosing his

> > mind is

> > > certainly loosing it all- so the Danda yoga gives the

foundation for

> > > something of this sort to happen. Generally people with Danda

yoga

> > loose

> > > things slowly- thier spouse, then thier job, then the respect of

> > their

> > > children, peers, etc.

> > >

> > > Take Care,

> > > Ernst Wilhelm

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey>

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Cc: <panastroforum@t...>

> > > Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:43 AM

> > > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > >

> > > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > > >

> > > > All,

> > > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > > cure.

> > > >

> > > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > > >

> > > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > > comes to AD.

> > > >

> > > > Charlton Heston

> > > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > > 7:55am

> > > > CST

> > > > Evanston, IL

> > > > USA

> > > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > > thru the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > > things that they represent.

> > > >

> > > > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > > > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > > > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > > > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > > > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > > > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > > > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > > > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > > > Moon's view.

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > > > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > > > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > > > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > > > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > > > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > > > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > > > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > > > placement in the 12.

> > > >

> > > > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > > > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > > > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > > > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > > > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > > > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > > > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > > > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > > > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> > > >

> > > > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > > > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > > > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > > > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > > > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > > > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > > > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > > > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > > > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > > > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > > > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > > > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> > > >

> > > > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > > > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > > > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > > > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > > > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > > > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > > > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > > > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > > > Gemini.

> > > >

> > > > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > > > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > > > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > > > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > > > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> > > >

> > > > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > > > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > > > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > > > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > > > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > > > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > > > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > > > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > > > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > > > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > > > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > > > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > > > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > > > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > > > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> > > >

> > > > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > > > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > > > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > > > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > > > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > > > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > > > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > > > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > > > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > > > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > > > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> > > >

> > > > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > > > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > > > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > > > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > > > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > > > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > > > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > > > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > > > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > > > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > > > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > > > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > > > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > > > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > > > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > > > at different times.

> > > >

> > > > Salaam,

> > > > Mu

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > Mu'Min M. Bey

> > > > Western and Vedic Astrologer

> > > > mumin_bey

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> > > 267-978-2812

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> > Thought

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> >

August 16, 2002

Dear Nicholas

I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is well

respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working actor.

I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This disease

cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the brain.

The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds up

in the brain somehow.

I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst describes

but something seems missing.

If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows the

success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how focused

folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me that

he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can see

the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to neurological

problems.

OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental weakness.

Why would it wait until old age?

If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

with the fear of losing your mind?

Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to make

a public statement like that! Wow!

c

-

"Nicholas" <jyotish108

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:30 PM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Mu

> How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status in

> the industry .

> Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is running

> Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> Thanks in advance

> Nicholas

>

> -

> "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

> <gjlist>

> Cc: <panastroforum

> Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> >

> > All,

> > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > cure.

> >

> > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> >

> > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > comes to AD.

> >

> > Charlton Heston

> > Oct 4, 1923

> > 7:55am

> > CST

> > Evanston, IL

> > USA

> > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> >

> > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > thru the horoscope.

> >

> > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > important role in matters related to disease.

> > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > Mercury in the horoscope.

> >

> > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > things that they represent.

> >

> > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > Moon's view.

> >

> > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > placement in the 12.

> >

> > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> >

> > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> >

> > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > Gemini.

> >

> > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> >

> > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> >

> > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> >

> > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > at different times.

> >

> > Salaam,

> > Mu

> >

> > =====

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> > Western and Vedic Astrologer

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August 16, 2002

Dear Cynthia

I think a late Virgo ascendent would make sense .Then he would be running

the Bhukti of Sun as 12th LOrd losses to the body and PD of Saturn illness

..There are then stong yogas for sucess and wealth in the chart .The Sun as

12th Lord of loss conjunct 1st Lord of brain would then be a natal trigger

for the Alzheimer's affliction .I really cannot see the succeess ,wealth

and fame from the Libra chart unless one start's digging for very obscure

principles of Jyotish .He's a funny mix in his latter years he has persued

esoteric interests while still being a spokesman for the rednecks .Sun in

1st would also bestow courage and leadershoip as distinct from Sun in 12th .

Someone could argue that this as a case where relocation has been immensely

beneficial .

Nice as always to hear from you .

Nicholas

-

"cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:45 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Nicholas

>

> I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

well

> respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working actor.

>

> I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This disease

> cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

>

> I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

brain.

> The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

up

> in the brain somehow.

>

> I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

describes

> but something seems missing.

>

> If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows the

> success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

focused

> folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

that

> he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can see

> the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

neurological

> problems.

>

> OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental weakness.

> Why would it wait until old age?

>

> If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> with the fear of losing your mind?

>

> Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

>

> Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

make

> a public statement like that! Wow!

>

> c

August 16, 2002

Dear Nicholas

I suspect that we need to see where the birth data originated. I'll check

with astro databank.

Could it be that the relocation chart has become more valid than the birth

chart?

C

-

"Nicholas" <jyotish108

Friday, August 16, 2002 5:21 PM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Cynthia

> I think a late Virgo ascendent would make sense .Then he would be running

> the Bhukti of Sun as 12th LOrd losses to the body and PD of Saturn illness

> .There are then stong yogas for sucess and wealth in the chart .The Sun as

> 12th Lord of loss conjunct 1st Lord of brain would then be a natal trigger

> for the Alzheimer's affliction .I really cannot see the succeess ,wealth

> and fame from the Libra chart unless one start's digging for very obscure

> principles of Jyotish .He's a funny mix in his latter years he has persued

> esoteric interests while still being a spokesman for the rednecks .Sun in

> 1st would also bestow courage and leadershoip as distinct from Sun in 12th

..

> Someone could argue that this as a case where relocation has been

immensely

> beneficial .

> Nice as always to hear from you .

> Nicholas

> -

> "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

> <gjlist>

> Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:45 AM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Dear Nicholas

> >

> > I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

> well

> > respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working

actor.

> >

> > I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This

disease

> > cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

> >

> > I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> > mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

> brain.

> > The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

> up

> > in the brain somehow.

> >

> > I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

> describes

> > but something seems missing.

> >

> > If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> > chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows

the

> > success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> > about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

> focused

> > folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> > forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

> that

> > he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can

see

> > the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> > tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

> neurological

> > problems.

> >

> > OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental

weakness.

> > Why would it wait until old age?

> >

> > If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> > raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> > with the fear of losing your mind?

> >

> > Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

> >

> > Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

> make

> > a public statement like that! Wow!

> >

> > c

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

August 16, 2002

Dear Cynthia

> Dear Nicholas

> I suspect that we need to see where the birth data originated. I'll check

> with astro databank.

>

> Could it be that the relocation chart has become more valid than the birth

> chart?

>

I've never seen anyone do charts on that basis .

Kind regards

Nicholas

August 16, 2002

I found him listed in Lois Rodden Astro-Data IV This date and time given

source listed and stated that it is from birth certificate in hand. No DST

to confuse it, so this appears to be the right chart.

Always humbling to see the exceptions.

c

-

"Nicholas" <jyotish108

Friday, August 16, 2002 7:13 PM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Cynthia

>

> > Dear Nicholas

> > I suspect that we need to see where the birth data originated. I'll

check

> > with astro databank.

> >

> > Could it be that the relocation chart has become more valid than the

birth

> > chart?

> >

> I've never seen anyone do charts on that basis .

> Kind regards

> Nicholas

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

August 17, 2002

Dear Cynthia,

there is a good chance of course that the diagnoses is incorrect, since

medical doctors diagnose accurately about 40% of the time. I have not

studied alzeheimers in the horoscope, but I would expect an afflicted 1st

house, 2nd house, Mercury, and Jupiter. Jupiter rules the brain, Mercury

afflicted harms the nerves and the 2nd house influences the memory, and the

1st house is the brain. In Heston's chart he entered Mars Dasa in April of

2002, Mars is the 2nd lord right in fatal degree and with Rahu, so pretty

afficted. It is aspected by Jupiter, who though as the 6th lord will only

support disease, Jupiter, the brain is also afflicted by this Mars Rahu

conjucntion, as well as from Ketu- all through rasi aspects. Mercury is

debilitated in the navamsa and has the two problematic malefics, Mars and

Rahu in the 12th from it. The lagna has the same malefics influencing it as

Jupiter and the lagna lord is also afflicted in the 12th. So there is a lot

of malefic influences there. It is also bad in the navamsa, Jupiter is rasi

aspected by Rahu Ketu, Mars and Saturn and debilitated Mercury, Mercury is

also influenced by many malefics, so is Mars. Fatal degree planets are

always so important for medical astrology, chronic and terrible things are

instigated by them, so the Dasa of Mars gives the disease.

Take Care,

Ernst WIlhelm

-

"cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

Friday, August 16, 2002 1:45 PM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Nicholas

>

> I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

well

> respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working actor.

>

> I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This disease

> cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

>

> I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

brain.

> The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

up

> in the brain somehow.

>

> I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

describes

> but something seems missing.

>

> If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows the

> success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

focused

> folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

that

> he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can see

> the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

neurological

> problems.

>

> OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental weakness.

> Why would it wait until old age?

>

> If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> with the fear of losing your mind?

>

> Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

>

> Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

make

> a public statement like that! Wow!

>

> c

> -

> "Nicholas" <jyotish108

> <gjlist>

> Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:30 PM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Dear Mu

> > How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status

in

> > the industry .

> > Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is

running

> > Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> > Thanks in advance

> > Nicholas

> >

> > -

> > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

> > <gjlist>

> > Cc: <panastroforum

> > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> >

> > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > >

> > > All,

> > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > cure.

> > >

> > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > >

> > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > comes to AD.

> > >

> > > Charlton Heston

> > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > 7:55am

> > > CST

> > > Evanston, IL

> > > USA

> > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > >

> > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > thru the horoscope.

> > >

> > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > >

> > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > things that they represent.

> > >

> > > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > > Moon's view.

> > >

> > > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > > placement in the 12.

> > >

> > > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> > >

> > > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> > >

> > > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > > Gemini.

> > >

> > > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> > >

> > > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> > >

> > > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> > >

> > > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > > at different times.

> > >

> > > Salaam,

> > > Mu

> > >

> > > =====

> > > Mu'Min M. Bey

> > > Western and Vedic Astrologer

> > > mumin_bey

> > > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu

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> > 267-978-2812

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> > >

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>

> > >

> >

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August 17, 2002

Dear Ernst

Thank you for the detailed insights. I understand it from the standpoint of

Mars MD but I find that he is not entering Mars MD until 11-03-2002.

What dhasha system do you use? I show that he is still in Moon Sun with

Jupiter exalted just transiting the Moon in CA in the 10th.

c

-

"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst

Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:05 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Cynthia,

> there is a good chance of course that the diagnoses is incorrect, since

> medical doctors diagnose accurately about 40% of the time. I have not

> studied alzeheimers in the horoscope, but I would expect an afflicted 1st

> house, 2nd house, Mercury, and Jupiter. Jupiter rules the brain, Mercury

> afflicted harms the nerves and the 2nd house influences the memory, and

the

> 1st house is the brain. In Heston's chart he entered Mars Dasa in April of

> 2002, Mars is the 2nd lord right in fatal degree and with Rahu, so pretty

> afficted. It is aspected by Jupiter, who though as the 6th lord will only

> support disease, Jupiter, the brain is also afflicted by this Mars Rahu

> conjucntion, as well as from Ketu- all through rasi aspects. Mercury is

> debilitated in the navamsa and has the two problematic malefics, Mars and

> Rahu in the 12th from it. The lagna has the same malefics influencing it

as

> Jupiter and the lagna lord is also afflicted in the 12th. So there is a

lot

> of malefic influences there. It is also bad in the navamsa, Jupiter is

rasi

> aspected by Rahu Ketu, Mars and Saturn and debilitated Mercury, Mercury is

> also influenced by many malefics, so is Mars. Fatal degree planets are

> always so important for medical astrology, chronic and terrible things are

> instigated by them, so the Dasa of Mars gives the disease.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst WIlhelm

>

> -

> "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

> <gjlist>

> Friday, August 16, 2002 1:45 PM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Dear Nicholas

> >

> > I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

> well

> > respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working

actor.

> >

> > I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This

disease

> > cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

> >

> > I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> > mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

> brain.

> > The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

> up

> > in the brain somehow.

> >

> > I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

> describes

> > but something seems missing.

> >

> > If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> > chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows

the

> > success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> > about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

> focused

> > folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> > forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

> that

> > he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can

see

> > the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> > tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

> neurological

> > problems.

> >

> > OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental

weakness.

> > Why would it wait until old age?

> >

> > If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> > raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> > with the fear of losing your mind?

> >

> > Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

> >

> > Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

> make

> > a public statement like that! Wow!

> >

> > c

> > -

> > "Nicholas" <jyotish108

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:30 PM

> > Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> >

> > > Dear Mu

> > > How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status

> in

> > > the industry .

> > > Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is

> running

> > > Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> > > Thanks in advance

> > > Nicholas

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Cc: <panastroforum

> > > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> > > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > >

> > > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > > >

> > > > All,

> > > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > > cure.

> > > >

> > > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > > >

> > > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > > comes to AD.

> > > >

> > > > Charlton Heston

> > > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > > 7:55am

> > > > CST

> > > > Evanston, IL

> > > > USA

> > > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > > thru the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > > things that they represent.

> > > >

> > > > To make matters worse, Mercury is placed in the 3

> > > > house from the Moon, which has to do, to a certain

> > > > extent, incurable diseases, like AD, as the 3 house is

> > > > 8 houses away from the 8 house, and therefore, is

> > > > considered in some ways even more pernicious than the

> > > > 8 itself. Note how Mercury associates with Venus, who

> > > > is the 8 lord from the Asc; Venus is debilitated, and

> > > > all of this only heightens what is indicated from the

> > > > Moon's view.

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is here as well, and while it is the Yoga

> > > > Karaka for a Libra Asc, it is still a natural malefic.

> > > > In fact, Mercury is beaten down by all three malefics

> > > > here in the 12 house - the Sun, Saturn, and

> > > > debilitated Venus, who acts as a malefic, both because

> > > > of its association with fellow natural malefics Sun

> > > > and Saturn, but also because, Mercury's inability to

> > > > change things due to its weakened retrograde state and

> > > > placement in the 12.

> > > >

> > > > Please keep in mind, that the 12 house from any house,

> > > > represents losses for that house so concerned; in this

> > > > case, it represents the loss (12 house) of Heston's

> > > > mental functions (Mercury Rx, etc). Also, note how

> > > > Virgo, the Sign of Mercury, is just chock-full of

> > > > malefics. In Vedic Medical Astrology, one way to

> > > > assess potentially weak cites in the body, is to

> > > > determine to what extent malefic planets inhabit the

> > > > Signs, and what those Signs rule anatomically.

> > > >

> > > > When we turn to the Navamsa, we see how really bad

> > > > Heston's situation is: Mercury is now debilitated, and

> > > > this just goes to underscore a very important

> > > > principle of Vedic Astrology, concerning the primacy

> > > > of the Navamsa. Planets can be seen as strong in the

> > > > Rasi (Natal) chart, but unless you check out the

> > > > Navamsa, you never really know to what extent those

> > > > planets are strong or weak. The Navamsa's role is so

> > > > important, that even if planets in the natal chart are

> > > > exalted, if those same planets turn up debilitated in

> > > > the Navamsa, their ability to "do good" is greatly

> > > > weakened, if not destroyed outright.

> > > >

> > > > Further, from the Navamsa Asc, Mercury rules the 6

> > > > house! This a clear echo of the troubles we have seen

> > > > in the natal chart for Heston, and only portends more

> > > > trouble for the actor. Mercury is associated with Ketu

> > > > in the Navamsa, and both are placed in the 3 house,

> > > > which again is an echo of the 8 house. And, note how

> > > > again malefics are placed in Signs owned by Mercury -

> > > > Saturn and Rahu are in Virgo, and the Sun is in

> > > > Gemini.

> > > >

> > > > I should also point out here, that the Nodes have also

> > > > shown themselves to play an important role when it

> > > > comes to diseases of the brain/mind. Remember, the

> > > > Nodes, Rahu and Ketu, are based on the Moon, the key,

> > > > utmost planet of the Mind - and Brain.

> > > >

> > > > With all this said, it should come as no surprise

> > > > then, that when we check the Dasas for Heston at this

> > > > time, that he would be passing thru a period in which

> > > > one of the Nodes, Rahu, would be involved. Right now,

> > > > he is running Venus/Rahu, and will not end until

> > > > Heston is in his early 80s, in the year 2005. In that

> > > > Venus is the Asc Lord, is placed in a 2/12

> > > > relationship from Rahu in both natal and Navamsa

> > > > charts, with Venus in the 12 in the Rasi and in the 8

> > > > in the Navamsa, I say that there is little chance that

> > > > he is likely to recover - in fact, this Dasa period

> > > > could prove critical for his lifespan. The debility of

> > > > the Asc Lord, its placement by house, and its

> > > > relationship to Rahu, along with Heston's advanced

> > > > age, are all unfavorable signs for recovery.

> > > >

> > > > If, on the other hand, he IS able to weather the

> > > > storm, and get thru this period, help could come in

> > > > the form of the sub period of Jupiter, which begins in

> > > > Feb of 2005. Jupiter, while a functional malefic in

> > > > his chart (due to its lordship of the 3 and 6 houses)

> > > > still has the ability to do good, and can play a role

> > > > here. Note how it forms a powerful Gaja-Kesari Yoga,

> > > > as both it and the Moon are in angular houses from the

> > > > Asc, and the Moon is in its own sign of Cancer. No

> > > > doubt this has contributed to his success as an actor,

> > > > as the Moon plays a huge role in the Arts.

> > > >

> > > > Heston is perhaps best known for his role as the

> > > > Biblical Moses in the 60s epic, "The Ten Commandments"

> > > > and for his role as the Astronaut Leo Davison in the

> > > > original "Planet of The Apes". Both of these films

> > > > came out in the 60s, and at the time, Heston was

> > > > running the Dasa of Saturn, lord of the 4 and 5

> > > > houses, giving it YK status in the chart. Note how the

> > > > very same combination of planets that have played a

> > > > role in Heston's current situation have also brought

> > > > him fame - Saturn is associated with exalted Mercury,

> > > > lord of the 9 (Luck); Venus, lord of the Asc and 8

> > > > (The Physical Self and Sexual Attraction) and the Sun,

> > > > lord of the 11 (Gains, Big Money made from the

> > > > Movies). Just another example of how the planets can

> > > > represent many different things, on different levels,

> > > > at different times.

> > > >

> > > > Salaam,

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August 17, 2002

Dear Cynthia,

I am using Vimshottari Dasa, but with a slightly different Ayanamsa than Lahiri.

The ayanamsa I use is 23 minutes less than Lahiri, which means each planet moves

23 minutes forwards in the zodiac as compared to Lahiri.

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

cynthia novak [sMTP:c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net]

Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:34 AM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

Dear Ernst

Thank you for the detailed insights. I understand it from the standpoint of

Mars MD but I find that he is not entering Mars MD until 11-03-2002.

What dhasha system do you use? I show that he is still in Moon Sun with

Jupiter exalted just transiting the Moon in CA in the 10th.

c

-

"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net>

Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:05 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Cynthia,

> there is a good chance of course that the diagnoses is incorrect, since

> medical doctors diagnose accurately about 40% of the time. I have not

> studied alzeheimers in the horoscope, but I would expect an afflicted 1st

> house, 2nd house, Mercury, and Jupiter. Jupiter rules the brain, Mercury

> afflicted harms the nerves and the 2nd house influences the memory, and

the

> 1st house is the brain. In Heston's chart he entered Mars Dasa in April of

> 2002, Mars is the 2nd lord right in fatal degree and with Rahu, so pretty

> afficted. It is aspected by Jupiter, who though as the 6th lord will only

> support disease, Jupiter, the brain is also afflicted by this Mars Rahu

> conjucntion, as well as from Ketu- all through rasi aspects. Mercury is

> debilitated in the navamsa and has the two problematic malefics, Mars and

> Rahu in the 12th from it. The lagna has the same malefics influencing it

as

> Jupiter and the lagna lord is also afflicted in the 12th. So there is a

lot

> of malefic influences there. It is also bad in the navamsa, Jupiter is

rasi

> aspected by Rahu Ketu, Mars and Saturn and debilitated Mercury, Mercury is

> also influenced by many malefics, so is Mars. Fatal degree planets are

> always so important for medical astrology, chronic and terrible things are

> instigated by them, so the Dasa of Mars gives the disease.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst WIlhelm

>

> -

> "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net>

> <gjlist>

> Friday, August 16, 2002 1:45 PM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Dear Nicholas

> >

> > I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

> well

> > respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working

actor.

> >

> > I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This

disease

> > cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

> >

> > I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> > mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

> brain.

> > The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

> up

> > in the brain somehow.

> >

> > I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

> describes

> > but something seems missing.

> >

> > If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> > chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows

the

> > success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> > about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

> focused

> > folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> > forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

> that

> > he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can

see

> > the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> > tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

> neurological

> > problems.

> >

> > OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental

weakness.

> > Why would it wait until old age?

> >

> > If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> > raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> > with the fear of losing your mind?

> >

> > Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

> >

> > Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

> make

> > a public statement like that! Wow!

> >

> > c

> > -

> > "Nicholas" <jyotish108 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:30 PM

> > Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> >

> > > Dear Mu

> > > How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status

> in

> > > the industry .

> > > Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is

> running

> > > Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> > > Thanks in advance

> > > Nicholas

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey >

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Cc: <panastroforum (AT) topica (DOT) com>

> > > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> > > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > >

> > > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > > >

> > > > All,

> > > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > > cure.

> > > >

> > > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > > >

> > > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > > comes to AD.

> > > >

> > > > Charlton Heston

> > > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > > 7:55am

> > > > CST

> > > > Evanston, IL

> > > > USA

> > > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > > thru the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > > things that they represent.

> > > >

August 18, 2002

Dear Ernst

Would you mind sharing how you came to use this one? I have great results with

my own chart and others who have Moon in the 1st. I have not had the best

timing in those that do not have this.

It speaks volumes when you see Heston's chart in the Mars MD. Thank you for your time

c

-

Ernst Wilhelm

gjlist

Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:49 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

Dear Cynthia,

I am using Vimshottari Dasa, but with a slightly different Ayanamsa than Lahiri.

The ayanamsa I use is 23 minutes less than Lahiri, which means each planet moves

23 minutes forwards in the zodiac as compared to Lahiri.

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

cynthia novak [sMTP:c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net]

Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:34 AM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

Dear Ernst

Thank you for the detailed insights. I understand it from the standpoint of

Mars MD but I find that he is not entering Mars MD until 11-03-2002.

What dhasha system do you use? I show that he is still in Moon Sun with

Jupiter exalted just transiting the Moon in CA in the 10th.

c

-

"Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net>

Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:05 AM

Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> Dear Cynthia,

> there is a good chance of course that the diagnoses is incorrect, since

> medical doctors diagnose accurately about 40% of the time. I have not

> studied alzeheimers in the horoscope, but I would expect an afflicted 1st

> house, 2nd house, Mercury, and Jupiter. Jupiter rules the brain, Mercury

> afflicted harms the nerves and the 2nd house influences the memory, and

the

> 1st house is the brain. In Heston's chart he entered Mars Dasa in April of

> 2002, Mars is the 2nd lord right in fatal degree and with Rahu, so pretty

> afficted. It is aspected by Jupiter, who though as the 6th lord will only

> support disease, Jupiter, the brain is also afflicted by this Mars Rahu

> conjucntion, as well as from Ketu- all through rasi aspects. Mercury is

> debilitated in the navamsa and has the two problematic malefics, Mars and

> Rahu in the 12th from it. The lagna has the same malefics influencing it

as

> Jupiter and the lagna lord is also afflicted in the 12th. So there is a

lot

> of malefic influences there. It is also bad in the navamsa, Jupiter is

rasi

> aspected by Rahu Ketu, Mars and Saturn and debilitated Mercury, Mercury is

> also influenced by many malefics, so is Mars. Fatal degree planets are

> always so important for medical astrology, chronic and terrible things are

> instigated by them, so the Dasa of Mars gives the disease.

>

> Take Care,

> Ernst WIlhelm

>

> -

> "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net>

> <gjlist>

> Friday, August 16, 2002 1:45 PM

> Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

>

> > Dear Nicholas

> >

> > I do not know anything about Heston's biography. I do know that he is

> well

> > respected in his field and is said to be a serious and hard working

actor.

> >

> > I'm questioning if the diagnosis of Alzheimer's is correct. This

disease

> > cannot be truly diagnoses until the brain is examined after death.

> >

> > I wonder just how to look at it from the chart itself. If I am not

> > mistaken, Altzheimer's is a disease that affects the synapses in the

> brain.

> > The ability of the nerves to connect. I have heard that aluminum builds

> up

> > in the brain somehow.

> >

> > I do no doubt the description of the dhandi (sp?) yoga that Ernst

> describes

> > but something seems missing.

> >

> > If I relocate the chart to Los Angeles where he gained fame. The whole

> > chart shifts one rasi. Virgo becomes the lagna. This certainly shows

the

> > success and the deliberate and determined mind. It just makes me wonder

> > about the accuracy of the chart. I see the Mars Rahu and I know how

> focused

> > folks with this placement are. I can even see the man's ability to put

> > forth his agenda and be a powerful leader. It just does not fit for me

> that

> > he would have this illness. Why now with Jupiter on the Moon? I can

see

> > the sadness from Saturn aspecting Mars which it will again and station

> > tightly aspecting Mars in January, but I don't see the link to

> neurological

> > problems.

> >

> > OK so what if it is true and Mercury in the 12th suggests mental

weakness.

> > Why would it wait until old age?

> >

> > If Saturn is a great friend to the chart and in the 12th with Venus in a

> > raja yoga would that not mean a peaceful ending years rather than living

> > with the fear of losing your mind?

> >

> > Just musing and hoping any and all will enlighten me.

> >

> > Oh, I also have the Moon Sun Saturn period. And talk about courage to

> make

> > a public statement like that! Wow!

> >

> > c

> > -

> > "Nicholas" <jyotish108 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:30 PM

> > Re: [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> >

> > > Dear Mu

> > > How do you explain Charlton Heston's success and generally good status

> in

> > > the industry .

> > > Also you state that he is running Venus Rahu but I get that he is

> running

> > > Moon Sun although I get the same Lagna as yourself .

> > > Thanks in advance

> > > Nicholas

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey >

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Cc: <panastroforum (AT) topica (DOT) com>

> > > Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:43 AM

> > > [GJ] Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > >

> > > > Charlton Heston and Alzheimer's Disease

> > > > Sunday, August 11, 2002

> > > >

> > > > All,

> > > > The other day, famed actor Charlton Heston announced

> > > > via video tape, that he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

> > > > Disease, a degenerative condition that effects the

> > > > brain's ability to retain information, and, as well,

> > > > other key bodily functions. There is, at present, no

> > > > cure.

> > > >

> > > > Heston, who is also a long time supporter of the

> > > > National Rifle Association and has been its President

> > > > since 1998, said that he wishes to remain in his post

> > > > and finish out his term, which ends next Spring.

> > > >

> > > > A quick look at his chart, in Vedic mode, shows very

> > > > clearly, very easily, his condition, and gives us

> > > > valuable clues as to what to look out for when it

> > > > comes to AD.

> > > >

> > > > Charlton Heston

> > > > Oct 4, 1923

> > > > 7:55am

> > > > CST

> > > > Evanston, IL

> > > > USA

> > > > Vedic Asc, Lahiri: 10 Lib 57

> > > > Source: Lois Rodden AstroDatabank

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to diseases of the brain, we have to

> > > > consider the "mental" planets, the Moon and Mercury;

> > > > if either or both of these bodies are afflicted, that

> > > > is to say, under stress by malefic planets, with

> > > > little to no help from benefics, we can expect there

> > > > to be problems at some point akin to what Heston is

> > > > experiencing at this time. Of course, a reliable

> > > > rule-of-thumb is, the older a person is, the greater

> > > > likelihood degenerative disease will manifest itself

> > > > thru the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm on this point, allow me to state the

> > > > following: of all the Planets in Vedic Astrology, only

> > > > one has the ability to be both in its own AND

> > > > exaltation sign at the same time - Mercury. Mercury,

> > > > known as "Buddha" in Vedic Astrology, represents

> > > > intelligence, logic and all other functions that

> > > > separates Humans from the rest of the animals on the

> > > > Earth. As Guru Nanak, the founder of the Sikh Faith

> > > > once said, "If you have conquered your Mind, you have

> > > > conquered the World". He, as so many other spiritually

> > > > evolved beings understood the power of the Mental

> > > > Planets, the Moon and Mercury. More recently,

> > > > allopathic Western doctors have "discovered" the link

> > > > between the mind and physical body, and the extent to

> > > > which their connection or lack thereof plays such an

> > > > important role in matters related to disease.

> > > > Therefore, it is most wise to consider, in the chart

> > > > of any human being, the condition of the Moon and

> > > > Mercury in the horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Here, in Heston's chart, we see that while the Moon is

> > > > in good shape, being both in its own Sign Cancer, in

> > > > Jupiter's Naksatra Punarvasu, and being Vargottoma in

> > > > the Navamsa, we cannot say the same thing for Mercury.

> > > > Mercury, while placed in its exaltation Sign of Virgo,

> > > > is nonetheless in the 12 house - and - it is

> > > > retrograde. While classical authorities maintain that

> > > > retrograde planets gain even more strength, I must

> > > > say, that I disagree with this view, and Heston's

> > > > chart is just one of many examples why I said this.

> > > > Retrograde planets are weakened, and greatly harm the

> > > > things that they represent.

> > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo ,

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