Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 The lagna is strong (ok, Mars is in 12th, but 1st house is definitely under strong benefic influence). Venus is not afflicted (agreed it is in Bharani, but then Venus owns that nakshatra). The 7th bhava is aspected by its lord. What the hell, then, is causing your "woman troubles"? A mere is aspect of Mars is enough to do that? Does Mars's lordship over 1st house does not make it a little benevolent? We might try "force" ourselves to find answers in Navamsha, but that does not look so bad (it's not great, agreed, considering the nodal alignment in 1st and 7th houses, but not so bad). Like I said in the subject line, I am perplexed. Can any jyotishi explain what is causing this excrutiating loneliness for the Lord of the Lists? Siddhartha. gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > > Richard Wurst (Das Goravani) > 5-18-1960 > 0442 AM > Oakland CA USA > Normally around 7to 8deg of Aries rising > > > > > > Das Goravani , President > > 2852 Willamette St, #353 > Eugene, Oregon, 97405 > USA > > Voice: > > or > > das@g... <das@g...> > > > Home of "Goravani Jyotish" > > Vedic Astrology Software , and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Siddharta, Look at the things more closely, > The lagna is strong (ok, Mars is in 12th, but 1st house is definitely > under strong benefic influence). Venus is not afflicted (agreed it is > in Bharani, but then Venus owns that nakshatra). The 7th bhava is > aspected by its lord. Venus is in mrita avasta, with saturn in navamsa, falling into Randramsa/navamsa of the 8th house, both rashi and navamsa dispositor Mars, placed in 12th. Further venus is in mrita avasta. So venus is enough to give affliction and pain.Further venus is in papakarthari yoga. Saturn as atmakarak gives a lot of pain, yet deep spirituality, and is placed in Venus Nakshatra. Upapada, -Gauna Pada is in Gemini, whose lord is mercury placed in 12th from it. Rahu-ketu axis in Navamsa is just there to aggriviate the matters. So I can see and feel Das's pain as a very real. > > What the hell, then, is causing your "woman troubles"? A mere is > aspect of Mars is enough to do that? Does Mars's lordship over 1st > house does not make it a little benevolent? We might try "force" > ourselves to find answers in Navamsha, but that does not look so bad > (it's not great, agreed, considering the nodal alignment in 1st and > 7th houses, but not so bad). > > Like I said in the subject line, I am perplexed. Can any jyotishi > explain what is causing this excrutiating loneliness for the Lord of > the Lists? Loneliness is caused by Mars in 12th house, in whose kendra Saturn and Jupiter are placed. They further cooperate with mars. Further, Mars is in Saturn nakshatra, so all these effects will take in Saturn mahadasha. Moon with Ketu gives also loniliness in Kumbha sign. Saturn is atmakarak, it gives a lot of grief... Yet Spirituality,, God's leela.. Blessings Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Zoran Thanks for your reply. It was very educational for me - I especially appreciated you taking the time to point out the many facts that I missed. But would you have said the same thing if you did not know what Das is going through? Siddhartha. gjlist, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote: > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Siddharta, > Look at the things more closely, > > > The lagna is strong (ok, Mars is in 12th, but 1st house is definitely > > under strong benefic influence). Venus is not afflicted (agreed it is > > in Bharani, but then Venus owns that nakshatra). The 7th bhava is > > aspected by its lord. > > Venus is in mrita avasta, with saturn in navamsa, falling into > Randramsa/navamsa of the 8th house, both rashi and navamsa dispositor Mars, > placed in 12th. Further venus is in mrita avasta. So venus is enough to give > affliction and pain.Further venus is in papakarthari yoga. Saturn as > atmakarak gives a lot of pain, yet deep spirituality, and is placed in Venus > Nakshatra. Upapada, -Gauna Pada is in Gemini, whose lord is mercury placed in > 12th from it. Rahu-ketu axis in Navamsa is just there to aggriviate the > matters. So I can see and feel Das's pain as a very real. > > > > > What the hell, then, is causing your "woman troubles"? A mere is > > aspect of Mars is enough to do that? Does Mars's lordship over 1st > > house does not make it a little benevolent? We might try "force" > > ourselves to find answers in Navamsha, but that does not look so bad > > (it's not great, agreed, considering the nodal alignment in 1st and > > 7th houses, but not so bad). > > > > Like I said in the subject line, I am perplexed. Can any jyotishi > > explain what is causing this excrutiating loneliness for the Lord of > > the Lists? > > Loneliness is caused by Mars in 12th house, in whose kendra Saturn and > Jupiter are placed. They further cooperate with mars. Further, Mars is in > Saturn nakshatra, so all these effects will take in Saturn mahadasha. Moon > with Ketu gives also loniliness in Kumbha sign. Saturn is atmakarak, it gives > a lot of grief... Yet Spirituality,, > God's leela.. > Blessings > Zoran > > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > mails: ahimsa@N... > ahimsa@n... > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, > Zoran > > Thanks for your reply. It was very educational for me - I especially > appreciated you taking the time to point out the many facts that I > missed. But would you have said the same thing if you did not know > what Das is going through? > > Siddhartha. > This is a standard procedure for graha judgement. There are no two truths, but one. Best wishes Zoran > > gjlist, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote: > > Om Namo Narayanaya, > > Dear Siddharta, > > Look at the things more closely, > > > > > The lagna is strong (ok, Mars is in 12th, but 1st house is > definitely > > > under strong benefic influence). Venus is not afflicted (agreed > it is > > > in Bharani, but then Venus owns that nakshatra). The 7th bhava is > > > aspected by its lord. > > > > Venus is in mrita avasta, with saturn in navamsa, falling into > > Randramsa/navamsa of the 8th house, both rashi and navamsa > dispositor Mars, > > placed in 12th. Further venus is in mrita avasta. So venus is > enough to give > > affliction and pain.Further venus is in papakarthari yoga. Saturn as > > atmakarak gives a lot of pain, yet deep spirituality, and is placed > in Venus > > Nakshatra. Upapada, -Gauna Pada is in Gemini, whose lord is mercury > placed in > > 12th from it. Rahu-ketu axis in Navamsa is just there to aggriviate > the > > matters. So I can see and feel Das's pain as a very real. > > > > > > > > What the hell, then, is causing your "woman troubles"? A mere is > > > aspect of Mars is enough to do that? Does Mars's lordship over 1st > > > house does not make it a little benevolent? We might try "force" > > > ourselves to find answers in Navamsha, but that does not look so > bad > > > (it's not great, agreed, considering the nodal alignment in 1st > and > > > 7th houses, but not so bad). > > > > > > Like I said in the subject line, I am perplexed. Can any jyotishi > > > explain what is causing this excrutiating loneliness for the Lord > of > > > the Lists? > > > > Loneliness is caused by Mars in 12th house, in whose kendra Saturn > and > > Jupiter are placed. They further cooperate with mars. Further, > Mars is in > > Saturn nakshatra, so all these effects will take in Saturn > mahadasha. Moon > > with Ketu gives also loniliness in Kumbha sign. Saturn is > atmakarak, it gives > > a lot of grief... Yet Spirituality,, > > God's leela.. > > Blessings > > Zoran > > > > -- > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > > mails: ahimsa@N... > > ahimsa@n... > > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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