neechbhanga....would really appreciate some examples

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Hi Everyone

 

I am still not able to fully understand the concept of neechbhanga.

If it is merely "crutches" (as also mentioned in Light on Life), how

come we have the superlative results for debilitated planets under

those circumstances but not the same for non-debilitated planets....

It almost makes one ask, are you lucky enough to have debilitation in

your chart?

 

It would be great if someone could give a some examples containing

neechbhanga (rajyoga or otherwise) and how it manifested in real life.

 

Thanks.

 

Siddhartha.

 

gjlist, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote:

> Om Namo Narayanaya,

> Dear Siddharha,

>

> >

> > A lot has been written about how the debilitation of a planet can

be

> > canceled and how under certain conditions such a combination can

give

> > superlative results (neechbhanga rajyoga). In all this, the

> > underlying principle hinges on strengthening the debilitated

planet

> > by giving srength to its dispositor etc. I don't want to go into

the

> > details here, but I feel that neechbhanga refers to conditions

that

> > strengthen the debilitated planet in certain ways.

> >

>

> Of course it does. Yet, do have in mind that dosha always remains,

mostly on

> living matters signified by the graha and its adhipatya. For

example, neecha

> lagnesh with neecha bhanga may give progress and respect, yet

damage the

> health. It is similar to a person who has lost a leg, and uses

crutches to

> walk (I hope that I used the right English word)

>

> >

> > My question is this: if the planet is not debilitated, but the

> > conditions listed under neechbhanga are satisfied, will it

increase

> > the strength of the already "non-debilitated" planet even more?

And

> > what about the case when the conditions of a "neechbhanga rajyoga"

> > are found in a non-debilitated planet?

> > As an example, suppose Mars is in Sagitarius in a Kendra, now

suppose

> > Jupiter is also in (say, Gemini) in Kendra? Is this going to give

a

> > superlative results because dispositor in a kendra cancels

> > debilitation?

> >

>

> Such matters may be applied to non-debilitatied grahas. In the

case you

> mentioned, Jupiter will cooperate with Mars (parashara parasparas)

towards

> achieving their aim.

> What you mentioned is a standard procedure of judging the strength

of a

> planet. Its dispositor must be strong. It will become strong when

in high

> dignity, kendra from lagna/chandra. If in dusthana or in low

dignity, it will

> decrease the strength of a graha it disposits.

> Best wishes

> Zoran

> --

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

> mails: ahimsa@N...

> ahimsa@n...

> web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Siddharta,

Do have in mind the following:

"Tasmin ucha neeche Shrimanath"- Exalted and debilitated grahas give

shrimanath or wealthy person.. Another hint: For Manifstation of yoga-

Surya

-an initiator of life and Chandra -sustainer must be strong to initiate

and

sustain the Yoga. I think that Enrst Gave some good rules in his book

(I've

seen some extracts) To have a boosted Neecha Bhanga Yoga, the neecha

bhanga

must occur on important grahas such as Yog Karakas for Lagna/arudha

Lagna.There are some other Yogas for exceptional rise described in

Parashara/Jaimini. I will mention a few:

1. Exchange of lagnesh/5th lord

2. Conjunction of Atma/Putra karak in kendras/konas

3. Atmakarak in Navamsa lagna or conjuct/aspects NAvamsa Lagna lord..

4. 5th lord in 5th house while 11th lord in 11th house

etc..

Some food for thought..

Best wishes

Zoran

 

indigenius wrote:

 

> Hi Everyone

>

> I am still not able to fully understand the concept of neechbhanga.

> If it is merely "crutches" (as also mentioned in Light on Life), how

> come we have the superlative results for debilitated planets under

> those circumstances but not the same for non-debilitated planets....

> It almost makes one ask, are you lucky enough to have debilitation in

> your chart?

>

> It would be great if someone could give a some examples containing

> neechbhanga (rajyoga or otherwise) and how it manifested in real life.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Siddhartha.

>

> gjlist, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote:

> > Om Namo Narayanaya,

> > Dear Siddharha,

> >

> > >

> > > A lot has been written about how the debilitation of a planet can

> be

> > > canceled and how under certain conditions such a combination can

> give

> > > superlative results (neechbhanga rajyoga). In all this, the

> > > underlying principle hinges on strengthening the debilitated

> planet

> > > by giving srength to its dispositor etc. I don't want to go into

> the

> > > details here, but I feel that neechbhanga refers to conditions

> that

> > > strengthen the debilitated planet in certain ways.

> > >

> >

> > Of course it does. Yet, do have in mind that dosha always remains,

> mostly on

> > living matters signified by the graha and its adhipatya. For

> example, neecha

> > lagnesh with neecha bhanga may give progress and respect, yet

> damage the

> > health. It is similar to a person who has lost a leg, and uses

> crutches to

> > walk (I hope that I used the right English word)

> >

> > >

> > > My question is this: if the planet is not debilitated, but the

> > > conditions listed under neechbhanga are satisfied, will it

> increase

> > > the strength of the already "non-debilitated" planet even more?

> And

> > > what about the case when the conditions of a "neechbhanga rajyoga"

> > > are found in a non-debilitated planet?

> > > As an example, suppose Mars is in Sagitarius in a Kendra, now

> suppose

> > > Jupiter is also in (say, Gemini) in Kendra? Is this going to give

> a

> > > superlative results because dispositor in a kendra cancels

> > > debilitation?

> > >

> >

> > Such matters may be applied to non-debilitatied grahas. In the

> case you

> > mentioned, Jupiter will cooperate with Mars (parashara parasparas)

> towards

> > achieving their aim.

> > What you mentioned is a standard procedure of judging the strength

> of a

> > planet. Its dispositor must be strong. It will become strong when

> in high

> > dignity, kendra from lagna/chandra. If in dusthana or in low

> dignity, it will

> > decrease the strength of a graha it disposits.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> > --

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

> > mails: ahimsa@N...

> > ahimsa@n...

> > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

--

Zoran Radosavljevic

Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

mails: ahimsa

ahimsa

web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu

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In a message dated Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:21:31 +0200, ahimsa writes:

 

> 3. Atmakarak in Navamsa lagna or conjuct/aspects NAvamsa

> Lagna lord..

 

Zoran, if Atmakaraka planet in Navamsa is Rasi Lagna lord and also is Navamsa

lagna lord, what might this indicate?

Thanking you very much in advance,

Your student,

Carol

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Amazing because vedic astrology is so accurate. Yes, that's the correct

Navamsa Lagna because the child was born to a wealthy family. Many thanks,

Zoran!

Blessings to you,

Carol

In a message dated 8/15/2002 10:38:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net writes:

Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Carol,

This is supreme Raja Yoga for birth under the silver spoon. If that is not the

case, the probability of correct Navamsa

Lagna are very slim

Best wishes

Zoran

Carolhook (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

> In a message dated Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:21:31 +0200, ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net writes:

>

> > 3. Atmakarak in Navamsa lagna or conjuct/aspects NAvamsa

> > Lagna lord..

>

> Zoran, if Atmakaraka planet in Navamsa is Rasi Lagna lord and also is Navamsa

lagna lord, what might this indicate?

> Thanking you very much in advance,

> Your student,

> Carol

[Guest guest]

Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Carol,

This is supreme Raja Yoga for birth under the silver spoon. If that is not the

case, the probability of correct Navamsa

Lagna are very slim

Best wishes

Zoran

 

Carolhook wrote:

 

> In a message dated Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:21:31 +0200, ahimsa writes:

>

> > 3. Atmakarak in Navamsa lagna or conjuct/aspects NAvamsa

> > Lagna lord..

>

> Zoran, if Atmakaraka planet in Navamsa is Rasi Lagna lord and also is Navamsa

lagna lord, what might this indicate?

> Thanking you very much in advance,

> Your student,

> Carol

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

 

--

Zoran Radosavljevic

Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

mails: ahimsa

ahimsa

web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu