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Start with small things- asking for 'everything' just helps you keep that

painful, well established pattern..sure way of preventing any positive

change..Get better soon,

Good Luck, Das,

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Please God, make this work for me, i'm really really in need

of company and support, please!

Okay, Das, I like this--while God arranges the fulfillment of your desire, and

He will do this for you, do you have ideas what you might do to show your

gratitude and faith in that result, in advance of its arrival? That is the KEY;

your thankfulness in advance proves your faith that you have been heard and are

patiently awaiting the outcome according to God's time plan.

My firstborn son had severe mental afflictions in April 1998, so acute he was

involuntarily hospitalized for 3 weeks, then after that he was discharged from

the hospital's mental ward as a "hopeless case, we can do nothing for him".

The doctor (head of the mental ward at Alexandria, Virginia) told me that 90% of

schizo-affective disorder diagnosed people are vegetables for the rest of their

lives, that they must take medicine to hold together their brain synapses for

the rest of their lives, that if anti-psychotic medicine is discontinued, the

broken vase (brain) that's been glued together by the medicine, will break

again, and then you may lose your son completely and forever in a world of

mental whatevers.

I heard the head doctor's words when he said 90% of people with a diagnosis like

this will never recover....and I became happy to hear it, it was like sunshine

broke out all of a sudden....it was a beautiful, joy bringing statement the

doctor had just said...what the doctor had just told us in his matter-of-fact

tones meant that my son had a wonderful 10% chance of being completely cured

back to his normal self again.

So I implemented everything I could think of, starting with chiropractic

adjustments to his Atlas none (the topmost one in the spine, that affects the

mind's thinking), and I attended one seminar for NAMI people (see NAMI.org on

the Web), and I followed through with everything that came to mind as hints in

books I was reading and whatever came to my own thinking to do.

I repeatedly told Brian, "We can be one of those 10% who are completely and

fully cured, and I want us to be a success story instead of using meds the rest

of your life, or having you worse off one day because you didn't take your meds.

Let's find whatever it is that will get you completely well so you'll never need

these medicines again, are you with me?"

Yes, he was!

We then asked God together, for Brian to be completely, fully, 100% cured and

back to his healthy self again. If all things are possible with God, we were

talking to the winning team.

Then we thanked God together, for the hints and pointers He'd be giving us from

now on, that would lead to a complete recovery for Brian.

Lastly, we asked God together, to please let us know what God would have each of

us do each day, that would show our gratitude to Him for this healing which was

going to come about, and would be in keeping with God's plans for each of us.

Today, about 4 years since his diagnosis and about 3 years since those fervent

prayers, my son is employed. He moved to Florida (his birthplace) a couple of

years ago. He drives his own car. He is engaged to be married. Brian just

turned 24 this past week.

Oh, and he hasn't taken any medicines for about 2 years now, because he is 100% healed.

Don't look at us, we merely believed in God's power to grant our request instead

of not believe in God...what's to lose, there's a lot to gain! God did the good

work and as always, God will answer any requests that are in keeping with His

path.

Love to all,

Carol

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Dear GD,

 

Talk of hinduism, celibacy and inner happiness...

the same hinduism which was pantheoned by renowned celebates was

nurtured by eons ago by sensible grihasthas.

 

I am reminded, reading your posts of a hindu saint called "Sundara".

This is an anecdote from down south of India in tamilnadu. The legend

goes that Sundara a great disciple of "Shiva" but thought of himself

as Shiva's friend more than a disciple.

 

His poetries were explicit with this attitude. He meets a beautiful

lady and falls for her. But he is not sure how to approach her. She

is rich and etc...He pines, whines and sorrowful..

 

He does what he thinks is the best to do. Turns to Shiva and asks him

go mediate find his pair, get them going together...

 

Sundara..means handsome, is the handsome, worldly, never betraying

his senses still in perfect communion with God...

 

the legend says..

 

Try to fight one's feelings, one creates conflict within oneself, let

the feeling take its seat and try to understand it, then it perhaps

ll emerge if it is worth exploring or it ll resolve itself by the

process of understanding...?

 

I for one am not sure though. I have found it very difficult to avoid

conflicts within me. How does one decondition oneself years of

imprintings of rights and wrongs..I wonder how people are so sure

what to tell thier children?

 

AM

 

gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote:

>

> Hello

>

> Please, you are my family, i do not know where to turn else.

> I need a woman here, please help me find her.

> Please. It's important. Don't preach to me. Please.

> I've tried EVERYTHING that's why I'm asking

> i need good news on this, i really do

>

> otherwise, I wouldn't ask, and I'm not beginning depression

> I'm ending because of it, after many years of it, YEARS

> so don't preach as if it's something new with new age

> quips about how to think, I'm on the edge, after a long hard

> fight

> I'm really on the edge, please, I'm begging for help,

> I know what I need, and that's what I need, her,

> so please, if you can, help me, and either way, thank you,

>

> I won't ask again soon, assuming this one got through,

> really heard,

>

> Now, please, if you know anyone, make a connection, thank you,

>

> --

>

>

> Das Goravani

>

>

> ps: I have suffered lack of love all my life, and totally

> so, it's really intense, when I get this preaching, about

> finding love inside myself, give it up, the desire that is,

> etc., anything of that sort, I'm sorry, but I roast and

> burn, it's not ok with me to hear it anymore. Please, I'd

> rather die with this pain than take that path. Sorry, I'm

> that way. I want what I want, and I'm not going to give up

> wanting it. OK? So I've admitted it, so there, I'm not

> interested in giving up this desire. OK? So will all the

> hindus out there who want to preach to me please sit down. I

> am not a celibate! OK!? OK, so now I said it. Now, please,

> help me find a wife if you can, and don't preach about

> non-wife life for me, ok? I'd rather be in pain over it than

> purge the desire, that's just the way I am OK? Call it

> warrior like. I feel offended and challenged by this

> situation, and am fighting it out my way. That's just the

> way I am. If I was a chantin-yogi type I would have done

> that a long time ago. If I was a quitter I would have quit

> with both of my relationships alot earlier. We're all

> different. This is me. I'm asking here because I truly am

> hoping for results, not for anything else. Results. If I'm

> in illusion, oh well, won't be the first time. All my

> attempts at relationships are not working.

>

> Please God, make this work for me, i'm really really in need

> of company and support, please!

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Dear Wraye,

 

If my son's story (he was diagnosed with BOTH manic-depressive or

"bipolar disorder" and acute schizophrenia) was not read by Das, it may be

read by someone else who needs that 10% inspiration (it's all I needed.)

 

My story might fall flat with Das, and some others as well. What is good

for one is not necessarily good for another, can be harmful in some cases.

 

Das will receive whatever he needs to receive, and in his phraseology, be

"good with it". I have no doubt he will listen to whatever resonates with

his 9th house Jupiter...when he's ready.

 

Love,

Carol

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H E L L O .....

D A S I S N O T R E C E I V I N

G!

Didn't his letters of yesterday clue you into that?

At 11:09 AM 8/11/02, you wrote:

In a

message dated 8/10/2002 10:55:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

das (AT) goravani (DOT) com writes:

Please God, make this work for me,

i'm really really in need

of company and support, please!

Okay, Das, I like this--while God arranges the fulfillment of your

desire, and He will do this for you, do you have ideas what you might do

to show your gratitude and faith in that result, in advance of its

arrival? That is the KEY; your thankfulness in advance proves your faith

that you have been heard and are patiently awaiting the outcome according

to God's time plan.

My firstborn son had severe mental afflictions in April 1998, so acute he

was involuntarily hospitalized for 3 weeks, then after that he was

discharged from the hospital's mental ward as a "hopeless case, we

can do nothing for him".

The doctor (head of the mental ward at Alexandria, Virginia) told me that

90% of schizo-affective disorder diagnosed people are vegetables for the

rest of their lives, that they must take medicine to hold together their

brain synapses for the rest of their lives, that if anti-psychotic

medicine is discontinued, the broken vase (brain) that's been glued

together by the medicine, will break again, and then you may lose your

son completely and forever in a world of mental whatevers.

I heard the head doctor's words when he said 90% of people with a

diagnosis like this will never recover....and I became happy to hear it,

it was like sunshine broke out all of a sudden....it was a beautiful, joy

bringing statement the doctor had just said...what the doctor had just

told us in his matter-of-fact tones meant that my son had a wonderful 10%

chance of being completely cured back to his normal self again.

So I implemented everything I could think of, starting with chiropractic

adjustments to his Atlas none (the topmost one in the spine, that affects

the mind's thinking), and I attended one seminar for NAMI people (see

NAMI.org on the Web), and I followed through with everything that came to

mind as hints in books I was reading and whatever came to my own thinking

to do.

I repeatedly told Brian, "We can be one of those 10% who are

completely and fully cured, and I want us to be a success story instead

of using meds the rest of your life, or having you worse off one day

because you didn't take your meds. Let's find whatever it is that will

get you completely well so you'll never need these medicines again, are

you with me?"

Yes, he was!

We then asked God together, for Brian to be completely, fully, 100%

cured and back to his healthy self again. If all things are possible with

God, we were talking to the winning team.

Then we thanked God together, for the hints and pointers He'd be giving

us from now on, that would lead to a complete recovery for

Brian.

Lastly, we asked God together, to please let us know what God would have

each of us do each day, that would show our gratitude to Him for this

healing which was going to come about, and would be in keeping with God's

plans for each of us.

Today, about 4 years since his diagnosis and about 3 years since those

fervent prayers, my son is employed. He moved to Florida (his

birthplace) a couple of years ago. He drives his own car. He is

engaged to be married. Brian just turned 24 this past week.

Oh, and he hasn't taken any medicines for about 2 years now, because he

is 100% healed.

Don't look at us, we merely believed in God's power to grant our request

instead of not believe in God...what's to lose, there's a lot to

gain! God did the good work and as always, God will answer any

requests that are in keeping with His path.

Love to all,

Carol

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Dear Carol ~

I'm sorry ... my post was sent before I had a chance to thank you

for sharing your story of faith. I'm sincerely happy for Brian and his

future.

God Bless ~

Chandra

~

At 12:09 PM 8/11/02, you wrote:

H E L L O .....

D A S I S N O T R E C E I V I N

G!

Didn't his letters of yesterday clue you into that?

At 11:09 AM 8/11/02, you wrote:

In a

message dated 8/10/2002 10:55:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

das (AT) goravani (DOT) com writes:

Please God, make this work for me,

i'm really really in need

of company and support, please!

Okay, Das, I like this--while God arranges the fulfillment of your

desire, and He will do this for you, do you have ideas what you might do

to show your gratitude and faith in that result, in advance of its

arrival? That is the KEY; your thankfulness in advance proves your faith

that you have been heard and are patiently awaiting the outcome according

to God's time plan.

My firstborn son had severe mental afflictions in April 1998, so acute he

was involuntarily hospitalized for 3 weeks, then after that he was

discharged from the hospital's mental ward as a "hopeless case, we

can do nothing for him".

The doctor (head of the mental ward at Alexandria, Virginia) told me that

90% of schizo-affective disorder diagnosed people are vegetables for the

rest of their lives, that they must take medicine to hold together their

brain synapses for the rest of their lives, that if anti-psychotic

medicine is discontinued, the broken vase (brain) that's been glued

together by the medicine, will break again, and then you may lose your

son completely and forever in a world of mental whatevers.

I heard the head doctor's words when he said 90% of people with a

diagnosis like this will never recover....and I became happy to hear it,

it was like sunshine broke out all of a sudden....it was a beautiful, joy

bringing statement the doctor had just said...what the doctor had just

told us in his matter-of-fact tones meant that my son had a wonderful 10%

chance of being completely cured back to his normal self again.

So I implemented everything I could think of, starting with chiropractic

adjustments to his Atlas none (the topmost one in the spine, that affects

the mind's thinking), and I attended one seminar for NAMI people (see

NAMI.org on the Web), and I followed through with everything that came to

mind as hints in books I was reading and whatever came to my own thinking

to do.

I repeatedly told Brian, "We can be one of those 10% who are

completely and fully cured, and I want us to be a success story instead

of using meds the rest of your life, or having you worse off one day

because you didn't take your meds. Let's find whatever it is that will

get you completely well so you'll never need these medicines again, are

you with me?"

Yes, he was!

We then asked God together, for Brian to be completely, fully, 100%

cured and back to his healthy self again. If all things are possible with

God, we were talking to the winning team.

Then we thanked God together, for the hints and pointers He'd be giving

us from now on, that would lead to a complete recovery for

Brian.

Lastly, we asked God together, to please let us know what God would have

each of us do each day, that would show our gratitude to Him for this

healing which was going to come about, and would be in keeping with God's

plans for each of us.

Today, about 4 years since his diagnosis and about 3 years since those

fervent prayers, my son is employed. He moved to Florida (his

birthplace) a couple of years ago. He drives his own car. He is

engaged to be married. Brian just turned 24 this past week.

Oh, and he hasn't taken any medicines for about 2 years now, because he

is 100% healed.

Don't look at us, we merely believed in God's power to grant our request

instead of not believe in God...what's to lose, there's a lot to

gain! God did the good work and as always, God will answer any

requests that are in keeping with His path.

Love to all,

Carol

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Dear Carol,

a renarkable story! Would you mind sharing your sons birth data?

 

Ernst Wilhelm

-

Chandra Devi

gjlist

Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:09 PM

Re: [GJ] Please

H E L L O ..... D A S I S N O T R E C E I V I N G!Didn't his

letters of yesterday clue you into that? At 11:09 AM 8/11/02, you wrote:

In a message dated 8/10/2002 10:55:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, das (AT) goravani (DOT) com writes:

Please God, make this work for me, i'm really really in need of company and

support, please!Okay, Das, I like this--while God arranges the fulfillment of

your desire, and He will do this for you, do you have ideas what you might do

to show your gratitude and faith in that result, in advance of its arrival?

That is the KEY; your thankfulness in advance proves your faith that you have

been heard and are patiently awaiting the outcome according to God's time

plan.My firstborn son had severe mental afflictions in April 1998, so acute he

was involuntarily hospitalized for 3 weeks, then after that he was discharged

from the hospital's mental ward as a "hopeless case, we can do nothing for

him". The doctor (head of the mental ward at Alexandria, Virginia) told me

that 90% of schizo-affective disorder diagnosed people are vegetables for the

rest of their lives, that they must take medicine to hold together their brain

synapses for the rest of their lives, that if anti-psychotic medicine is

discontinued, the broken vase (brain) that's been glued together by the

medicine, will break again, and then you may lose your son completely and

forever in a world of mental whatevers. I heard the head doctor's words when

he said 90% of people with a diagnosis like this will never recover....and I

became happy to hear it, it was like sunshine broke out all of a sudden....it

was a beautiful, joy bringing statement the doctor had just said...what the

doctor had just told us in his matter-of-fact tones meant that my son had a

wonderful 10% chance of being completely cured back to his normal self again.So

I implemented everything I could think of, starting with chiropractic

adjustments to his Atlas none (the topmost one in the spine, that affects the

mind's thinking), and I attended one seminar for NAMI people (see NAMI.org on

the Web), and I followed through with everything that came to mind as hints in

books I was reading and whatever came to my own thinking to do.I repeatedly

told Brian, "We can be one of those 10% who are completely and fully cured, and

I want us to be a success story instead of using meds the rest of your life, or

having you worse off one day because you didn't take your meds. Let's find

whatever it is that will get you completely well so you'll never need these

medicines again, are you with me?"Yes, he was! We then asked God together, for

Brian to be completely, fully, 100% cured and back to his healthy self again.

If all things are possible with God, we were talking to the winning team.Then

we thanked God together, for the hints and pointers He'd be giving us from now

on, that would lead to a complete recovery for Brian.Lastly, we asked God

together, to please let us know what God would have each of us do each day,

that would show our gratitude to Him for this healing which was going to come

about, and would be in keeping with God's plans for each of us.Today, about 4

years since his diagnosis and about 3 years since those fervent prayers, my son

is employed. He moved to Florida (his birthplace) a couple of years ago. He

drives his own car. He is engaged to be married. Brian just turned 24 this past

week. Oh, and he hasn't taken any medicines for about 2 years now, because he is

100% healed.Don't look at us, we merely believed in God's power to grant our

request instead of not believe in God...what's to lose, there's a lot to gain!

God did the good work and as always, God will answer any requests that are in

keeping with His path.Love to all,CarolOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare

Krishna; Om Tat Sat:

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dear Carol,

 

I think we were sisters in purva janama-i went through something very similar- I

distinctly remember telling the doctor- you have all the medicines and I have my

faith and a miracle did happen. My child is fully well and hale and hearty

teenager-My bhagwan Ram never let me down. He never does.people I had never

knpwn became his emissaries.My world was in a spin but so many people rallied

together and put the pieces together- My faith triumphed - and there's immense

goodness in this world.

 

jai sri ram and god bless,

faith always,

rambha.

-

Ernst Wilhelm

gjlist

Monday, August 12, 2002 1:19 PM

Re: [GJ] Please

Dear Carol,

a renarkable story! Would you mind sharing your sons birth data?

 

Ernst Wilhelm

-

Chandra Devi

gjlist

Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:09 PM

Re: [GJ] Please

H E L L O ..... D A S I S N O T R E C E I V I N G!Didn't his

letters of yesterday clue you into that? At 11:09 AM 8/11/02, you wrote:

In a message dated 8/10/2002 10:55:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, das (AT) goravani (DOT) com writes:

Please God, make this work for me, i'm really really in need of company and

support, please!Okay, Das, I like this--while God arranges the fulfillment of

your desire, and He will do this for you, do you have ideas what you might do

to show your gratitude and faith in that result, in advance of its arrival?

That is the KEY; your thankfulness in advance proves your faith that you have

been heard and are patiently awaiting the outcome according to God's time

plan.My firstborn son had severe mental afflictions in April 1998, so acute he

was involuntarily hospitalized for 3 weeks, then after that he was discharged

from the hospital's mental ward as a "hopeless case, we can do nothing for

him". The doctor (head of the mental ward at Alexandria, Virginia) told me

that 90% of schizo-affective disorder diagnosed people are vegetables for the

rest of their lives, that they must take medicine to hold together their brain

synapses for the rest of their lives, that if anti-psychotic medicine is

discontinued, the broken vase (brain) that's been glued together by the

medicine, will break again, and then you may lose your son completely and

forever in a world of mental whatevers. I heard the head doctor's words when

he said 90% of people with a diagnosis like this will never recover....and I

became happy to hear it, it was like sunshine broke out all of a sudden....it

was a beautiful, joy bringing statement the doctor had just said...what the

doctor had just told us in his matter-of-fact tones meant that my son had a

wonderful 10% chance of being completely cured back to his normal self again.So

I implemented everything I could think of, starting with chiropractic

adjustments to his Atlas none (the topmost one in the spine, that affects the

mind's thinking), and I attended one seminar for NAMI people (see NAMI.org on

the Web), and I followed through with everything that came to mind as hints in

books I was reading and whatever came to my own thinking to do.I repeatedly

told Brian, "We can be one of those 10% who are completely and fully cured, and

I want us to be a success story instead of using meds the rest of your life, or

having you worse off one day because you didn't take your meds. Let's find

whatever it is that will get you completely well so you'll never need these

medicines again, are you with me?"Yes, he was! We then asked God together, for

Brian to be completely, fully, 100% cured and back to his healthy self again.

If all things are possible with God, we were talking to the winning team.Then

we thanked God together, for the hints and pointers He'd be giving us from now

on, that would lead to a complete recovery for Brian.Lastly, we asked God

together, to please let us know what God would have each of us do each day,

that would show our gratitude to Him for this healing which was going to come

about, and would be in keeping with God's plans for each of us.Today, about 4

years since his diagnosis and about 3 years since those fervent prayers, my son

is employed. He moved to Florida (his birthplace) a couple of years ago. He

drives his own car. He is engaged to be married. Brian just turned 24 this past

week. Oh, and he hasn't taken any medicines for about 2 years now, because he is

100% healed.Don't look at us, we merely believed in God's power to grant our

request instead of not believe in God...what's to lose, there's a lot to gain!

God did the good work and as always, God will answer any requests that are in

keeping with His path.Love to all,CarolOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare

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In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 2:49:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ernst writes:

 

> Dear Carol,

> a renarkable story! Would you mind sharing your sons

> birth data?

>

> Ernst Wilhelm

 

Dear Ernst,

I'll ask Brian if he'd like to give his permission, so let's wait for his

answer. He doesn't study astrology and might be quite happy to share it with

you.

Love, Carol

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Dear Rambha,

How beautiful to hear of your faith on behalf of your child, my sister

across the miles! Every day my understanding is broadened. I'm so thankful you

wrote. I hope our similar experiences help others realize that having faith is

an actual tool anyone can use. Blessings to you!

Love, Carol

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Dear Das,

 

I read all of your mails containing deep expressions of pain and suffering very

carefully. Although words cannot convey entirely your reality, I made effort in

mentalizing your condition and suffering. I confess that your situation reminded

me of my worst nightmares.

 

Yet, no matter how much I tried to picture myself in your situation, I feel

helpless. I fall back to the same point: “What can I do?” It may sound

pretentious to say that no wise words can mitigate your suffering, but that is

how I perceive things now. No matter what we say, how logical our arguments may

be or how reasonable our words of hope and strength can be, your pains will

remain. I know you have faith in the words of Bhagavad Gita, but would any

verse or words of Sri Krsna mitigate your pains?

 

There certainly is an effective and short-term solution as you mention in you

mails: something good to happen, but until that happening takes place, you will

probably remain in pain. Meanwhile, I will pray so that one day good fortune,

which you deserve, may knock on your door.

 

Your distant and true friend.

Hare Krsna,

Rama Raghava das

 

 

 

-

Das Goravani

valist

Monday, January 16, 2006 6:45 PM

Please

Please God, whom I doubt exist, Do something.Dashas, who I know work,Start

working harderFriends, who I think are thereDo something, I’m dieingOr don’t,

you owe me nothingWe all have our miserable lotI’m in pain, very deepPlease,

something changePlease, something good happenPlease, Gods of Nature, Stop this

tortureI was always your loyal servant, so I thoughtI thought I did good things

for the dharmaWhy reward me the insanity born of lonlinessWhy am I here, where

my life is not workingPlease nature, do somethingPlease nature, do

somethingSomebody do somethingSomething good happenPleaseThanksRick MacQuoid

das (AT) goravani (DOT) comAIM: ROIKMACKAI IM:

das_goravanihttp://www.goravani.com Secure online ordering of Goravani

Jyotish 2.5 and Jyotish Studio 32852 Willamette St

#353 or (Please use

email if at all possible)

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