Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 I think our hare krishna friend wrote what he did just to prove some things I tried to clearly tell about the ringers of the bhakti bell it must all be summed up summarily under the words of Rupa Goswami who wrote the codes of Mahaprabhu who's teachings to which they stick like (are you waiting for me to say "glue") I seek not refuge in the name I seek not honor, wealth or fame I just want a family, someone around at least one person, who lives around town I gave my all to the movement too I bought the teachings through and through and that is why it's dear to me to spread them all over the world you see Look at my website you preacher man and see how I say, see how bold I am that's one reason I'm shocked that no vaisnavi has chosen to really be with me Innattentive chanting, oh yes, my friend, I never joined for release at my end I joined to be with Krishna's devotees who fanatically have abandoned me Why do I say that, well this is why up here in Eugene theres a pie in the sky it's called Vrandavan, and Narayan Swami to whom they've all turned, for sanctuary But I just cannot do it again all of the guru worship so grand and pretending his every word to care as if it's Krishnas flute in the air I can't learn new lingo, grab the new talk get a new name behind Swamiji walk i'd rather stay home cuzz I've done that before and wasted my time after awhile it's a bore i'm fasther than that i have things to do i can do so many things my living room is a zoo of computers, and music, videos and phones all gathered and purchased to build krishnas home I just do not want to endlessly have to beg for friends and family by going along with party lines shen Sek Mat and Isis had theirs all the time should I follow this one or that one or the ma's, shiva too, krishna das, and Osho and Christinity? I have so many places that I could bow they'd milk me, constrict me like betsy the cow i'm already saved i do this to show how ugly it can be when God's all you know do you get it my friend it's not about rounds attentive or not it's on other grounds oh i can go back into my world of lonliness and working for the world but it stopped some time back providing for me the things that I need, emotionally I've tried to express, in words which are clear that I have hardly a way, to a spouse draw near and turned to this list for help because you know me and all about my cause or so I thought, or hoped I guess that somehow or other, some help I could get because i'm not average, and problems arise when i live alone, it's just part of the package i don't think it is about the name or how I chant it or give krishna fame i think it's about how a bi polar bear feels abandoned, stranded, frightened, out there -- Das Goravani , President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, Oregon, 97405 USA Voice: or <> Home of "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic Astrology Software , and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 Dear Raghu Das Goravani, Now, now Das! That good gentleman from India gave you sound advice, but you're still not hearing. I know you don't want advice, you just want a woman to love. BUT, how about advice that enables you to find the path, walking which you will find someone to love? You didn't hear the love and compassion I have for you in all those exchanges re: Prabhupada, etc. Forget the institutions, the guru-game (that is superimposition of will by some over their followers), and all the institutional abuses that you experienced before. You don't need any of that to recite the exquisite and magnificent names of Krsna, and none of that will interfere either if you want it. Doing so, your mind, your heart, your consciousness, and your soul, all become illuminated with deep, luminescent, and transcendent love. We cannot honor the love of a woman or a man, actually, if we have not first loved God. We seek the love of God. Is the love you want Divine, or is it to receive the care of mother that you never got? Too many siblings in your family! You never got attention, and now you expect that a woman is going to live with you and become your mother. Resplendent and dripping with ecstatic love, the Maha-mantra welcomes everyone into the Divine Lila of Krsna. That will get you to the right position of consciousness, with or without your companion who will help you in life. Yes, find the companion. Before that can happen, you have to go back to Radha and Krsna and enter into that sublime dance that we all forgot long ago. You do not need the guru to do this. No, you do not need to follow any preachers. Please do this: just sit down for 5 minutes, and chant the names of Hare, Krsna and Rama. Recite the mantra as follows: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare Everything we get that is life-enhancing, re-enforcing, and sustaining, is a matter of blessings only. Not everybody gets the blessings, however. You have Laksmi yoga in your chart, as well as Parijata and Raja-Dharma-karmadhipati yogas, what then to speak of Sankha and Saraswati yogas as well. These show that the blessings are forth-coming for you as well, and are there for the taking, yet you are not looking for them in the right places. If Srimati Laksmi devi wants to bless you, do you look for Her on the Internet? The answer becomes moot after a while. Das! You've got one of the most desirable positions of Jupiter in your chart. Jyotishis admire that placement of Jupiter, in Moolatrikona in the 9th house. This shows you are a faithful, religious person, with deep spirit and great Sukriti to your credit. You are a teacher for the masses, a true Priest. Now, Saturn is trying to dominate you, and thus at varying points along this path, your faith is tested. You have to stand tall, and counter the offensive forces that would wish to defeat your faith. So far they are doing a good job. You're not done yet, however, you haven't even finished the Saturn/Rahu dasa yet. Saturn and Rahu! What a bunch of thugs - they're trying to bring you down, and you're falling for it. Get back to where you were, my dear friend. This has gone on long enough. Best wishes, Robert (do you hear me Das?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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