Prabhupad Closure for me

[Guest guest]

Actually, I did what I wanted to do, and I'm done, about

Prabhupada that is. Robert, please note the love I also have

for him. Thanks. Please note the positive things I said,

about how he was placed here by Krishna, and I even compared

him to Budha. Isn't that also "good", and not just "bad" of me?

 

Anyway, I spoke my truths. I won't apologize. I did it for

others Robert. So many people have laid there pains in my

ears from the years, those in and outside of ISKCON, but

about it, and his books, the effects on lives, I guess you

haven't heard what I've heard and experienced. It's serious.

 

I like what he did. I don't regret. Please remember that.

Thanks. I won't carry this on. We both made out statements.

That's fine.

 

Thanks, Raghu

[Guest guest]

Dear Raghu,

 

Contrition is good - it does not hurt anybody. It only shows your

greatness. You are a great man, otherwise why would so many people

to your list, or listen to what you have to say. Now you should

do as Krsna advises, and teach by example. Show respect where respect is

due, and give up this reckless habit of disparaging the character and

quintessential magnificence of Prabhupada, and other great teachers and

gurus.

 

This whole discussion has been very painful for me. A hot fire still

hovers in my crown chakra, and I awoke from sleep last night still in

disbelief. I remember the great Pandava King Maharaja Pariksit in the 3rd

Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam, who, at the onset of Kali-yuga, was touring

his kingdom and saw a low-class man beating an innocent cow. Prior to

Kali-yuga, this sort of atrocity was unheard of - simply unbelievable -

that one could beat his own mother. Note there are 7 mothers as

indicated in the shastras. Apart from the cow, one of them, is the wife of

a Brahmana; and the Brahmana himself, is the most elevated of human beings,

given that he carries the transcendent Truths of the Vedas to the masses of

people. The Self-realized guru, is the highest order of Brahmana, and,

like Jesus (who you also misunderstand), "sits at the right hand side of

the father". Under ordinary circumstances, the King would have

immediately slain such a disgraceful person who would beat the poor,

defenseless cow. But he didn't, knowing that in Kali-yuga, practically

every virtue, and every moral code, falls away like wisps in the wind, and

that compassion now is higher that corporeal punishments. So, instead of

killing the rogue (who personified Kali-yuga), the king instead banished

him to exist wherever gold was hoarded, or in other words, to have to exist

where there is no knowledge, no truth, no code of ethics or honor, only

gross ignorance and materialism. To this day, Kali is alive and well, yet

still residing in such places. Analogously, when someone defiles the

self-realized souls, he is banished to those abodes wherein the light of

day is hard to recognize, what then to speak of the Truth of life.

 

Think about this, and do as you wish. But in the process, remember that

this is a high-stakes game, and you could lose your shirt if you're not

careful.

 

Best wishes, and love to all,

Robert

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

Ph: 541.318.0248

[Guest guest]

Thank you for those very wise words. I appreciated your insight.

 

Renee

 

>>> rk 08/07/02 12:19PM >>>

Dear Raghu,

 

Contrition is good - it does not hurt anybody. It only shows your

greatness. You are a great man, otherwise why would so many people

to your list, or listen to what you have to say. Now you should

do as Krsna advises, and teach by example. Show respect where respect is

due, and give up this reckless habit of disparaging the character and

quintessential magnificence of Prabhupada, and other great teachers and

gurus.

 

This whole discussion has been very painful for me. A hot fire still

hovers in my crown chakra, and I awoke from sleep last night still in

disbelief. I remember the great Pandava King Maharaja Pariksit in the 3rd

Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam, who, at the onset of Kali-yuga, was touring

his kingdom and saw a low-class man beating an innocent cow. Prior to

Kali-yuga, this sort of atrocity was unheard of - simply unbelievable -

that one could beat his own mother. Note there are 7 mothers as

indicated in the shastras. Apart from the cow, one of them, is the wife of

a Brahmana; and the Brahmana himself, is the most elevated of human beings,

given that he carries the transcendent Truths of the Vedas to the masses of

people. The Self-realized guru, is the highest order of Brahmana, and,

like Jesus (who you also misunderstand), "sits at the right hand side of

the father". Under ordinary circumstances, the King would have

immediately slain such a disgraceful person who would beat the poor,

defenseless cow. But he didn't, knowing that in Kali-yuga, practically

every virtue, and every moral code, falls away like wisps in the wind, and

that compassion now is higher that corporeal punishments. So, instead of

killing the rogue (who personified Kali-yuga), the king instead banished

him to exist wherever gold was hoarded, or in other words, to have to exist

where there is no knowledge, no truth, no code of ethics or honor, only

gross ignorance and materialism. To this day, Kali is alive and well, yet

still residing in such places. Analogously, when someone defiles the

self-realized souls, he is banished to those abodes wherein the light of

day is hard to recognize, what then to speak of the Truth of life.

 

Think about this, and do as you wish. But in the process, remember that

this is a high-stakes game, and you could lose your shirt if you're not

careful.

 

Best wishes, and love to all,

Robert

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and,

http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or

Ph: 541.318.0248

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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