Natal position??

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody!

I am a novice in astrology and while reading some books, came up with

a doubt regarding astrological influences on human beings. I kindly

request advice and clarification from anybody who can help me.

 

Do to my overly analytical tendency, I try to find a logical

explanation for everything, and I can't seem to rest until I

understand the following points:

 

EXPLANATION -

The Hindu system of Astrology is based on the premise that the natal

position of planets is dependent on the past Karma of the human

beings, and gives complete picture of the life of the person

concerned. The interpretations are dependent on the position of

planets in the heavens at the time of birth as well as at the time of

interpretation.

 

QUESTIONS -

According to some references in shastras, the conception, or when the

ovulum is fertilized (soul "Atma" enters specific fetus), is the

moment when the human being gains individuality as a Jiva. Therefore,

can the moment of conception also be relevant to consider

astrological influence on that particular living being?

 

There are many cases of babies being born by caesarean, and

therefore, the doctor virtually decides the moment of birth. This

obviously is connected to the individual's past Karma, but does this

medical alternative for giving birth to a child interfere with the

correct readings of the planetary influence?

 

It is known that the influence of stars / planets on human is

constant, and therefore, the fetus is being constantly influenced by

the astros since conception. Why is the moment of birth (natal

position) the only depending factor to draw a horoscope?

 

Please do not interpret my questions as defiance to the concepts and

fundamentals of astrology. I was just wondering whether there are any

explanations for these points (just plain curiosity).

 

Thank you,

Rama Raghava das

[Guest guest]

are we seeing a pattern in chaos or the chaos itself is part of a

pattern?

Dear AM,

Chaos is not patterned ever, by definition. However, Order can be brought

where chaos one was.

Best to you,

Carol

[Guest guest]

Dear DG,

I wonder manytimes, if it is really true that life is a progression

of charts conception to death (perhaps even before and after, some

would say). I really get attracted to the view point only to be

dampened by the thoughts that man always tries to see pattern in

chaos.

 

What if the whole world is a "chaos" and we are only desparately

trying to see a pattern in it. The more smarter we are the more

grandiose our patterns.

 

Though I am doing my own self study in astrology for the past several

years (as you can very easily tell), I have not been able to convince

myself oneway or the other.

 

I believe this could be because of my limited understanding of the

first principles of astrology.

 

We see all grand combinations, theories, everything works- makes

sense, when applied retrospectively, but when it comes to prospective

testing, I fear that our pattern recognition blurs.

 

I know this is a vedic astrology forum and I am being blasphemous by

posing this question. But I reckon, I can only question where I can

find my answers.....

are we seeing a pattern in chaos or the chaos itself is part of a

pattern?

 

I would appreciate if you would care to share your thoughts re the

same..

 

AM.

 

gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote:

> Hi everybody!

> I am a novice in astrology and while reading some books, came up

with

> a doubt regarding astrological influences on human beings. I kindly

> request advice and clarification from anybody who can help me.

>

> Do to my overly analytical tendency, I try to find a logical

> explanation for everything, and I can't seem to rest until I

> understand the following points:

>

> EXPLANATION -

> The Hindu system of Astrology is based on the premise that the natal

> position of planets is dependent on the past Karma of the human

> beings, and gives complete picture of the life of the person

> concerned. The interpretations are dependent on the position of

> planets in the heavens at the time of birth as well as at the time

of

> interpretation.

>

> QUESTIONS -

> According to some references in shastras, the conception, or when

the

> ovulum is fertilized (soul "Atma" enters specific fetus), is the

> moment when the human being gains individuality as a Jiva.

Therefore,

> can the moment of conception also be relevant to consider

> astrological influence on that particular living being?

>

> There are many cases of babies being born by caesarean, and

> therefore, the doctor virtually decides the moment of birth. This

> obviously is connected to the individual's past Karma, but does this

> medical alternative for giving birth to a child interfere with the

> correct readings of the planetary influence?

>

> It is known that the influence of stars / planets on human is

> constant, and therefore, the fetus is being constantly influenced by

> the astros since conception. Why is the moment of birth (natal

> position) the only depending factor to draw a horoscope?

>

> Please do not interpret my questions as defiance to the concepts and

> fundamentals of astrology. I was just wondering whether there are

any

> explanations for these points (just plain curiosity).

>

> Thank you,

> Rama Raghava das