Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 I'm OK again. Wow! Mood swings you think, right? Well, sometimes you would have been right, but not this time. This is about astrology in a very significant, though not obvious, way. Get ready. There is a lady here in Eugene, who owns a rejuvenation clinic where healers work out of. She herself is a healer of a certain type. She's a significantly enlightened lady, in my opinion. We have become new friends over the last few weeks. I'm just getting to know her, but I had already found out that she was Celt positive and Paulism negative, which was heartening. She calls to check on me yesterday, and finds me down, and says she come this morning to visit. So she shows up just a little while ago and we talked. For awhile I just cried and cried and talked about Bernadette and the pain of abandonment and lonliness and so many things. After all that, she didn't talk about that, she reminded me that I am imprinted with early negative dark things from Catholic priesthood, that I am a priest, but I'm thinking they are the priests, and that indeed, the pagan priest implant is what I need to replace it with, to be happy, to be myself, free, and not depressed. She told me I was living out my parents mental illness and depression because I still accepted their basis of life. She told me Jesus got duped by the crowds, and got into the whole martyrdom thing which means you have to have all the suffering drama. That he was originally about Joy, and it ended up being about suffering and death. The dark priesthood of celibacy that followed, her and I both agreed was false and misleading, unrealistic, unnatural, sending wrong message to people, takes the brightest and makes sure they don't reproduce, etc. So now I am ready. Now I know that not only do I take on St Paul, but also the Jesus image, and against them show the pagan Celtic paradigm, how it matches with Hinduism, show the effects of different paradigms on the nature of the way people end up relating to life and each other, which is better for their health and the earth's health, where modern people are going when they are positive and not killing themselves, and why do modern people so much harm themselves, and all these things. They are all related. It's time for the darkness caused by the Christianity and Islamic religions to be called to the table and fully exposed as what they are- creating bad feelings and darkness inside people. I am not expressing everythng fully correctly yet. I need refinement. But I do believe in what I'm talking about. The ancient Hindus and Celts were life positive. In the Bhagavatam and Mahabharat, you do not find celibacy being promoted, and priests had wives. Sex was a part of life, and had no stigmas attached to it. Celts were very much interested in keeping their religious philosophy in line with what divinity does through nature, so all the more, they saw sex as it is, a very major part of nature. There was nothing "bad" about it. The Druids also had wives. The dark dress and celibacy, dark ideas and monasticism, these things are all by products of a negative idea called Paulism, which is based on Jesus's teachings and augmented with alot of bad ideas. I can tell simply by looking at Ayotollah Khomeini that he was under the same spell, the dark religious spell. Unfortunately, it swept over everywhere and anilhilated the Celts, and harmed the Hindus. Sankara and Budha didn't help matters except in the realms of inner thought, and deciphering the subtleties of what is self and ego and so on. But most people want to live life, and live it correctly, and for that real religion exists, and is life positive, and tries to teach you about life, and about the ins and outs of devotion and exploitation. In Hinduism it is said that God has six opulances in full and that we all have them in part only, and we all strive for them, and they are the basis of "Bhag" or goodness in wealth, and they are: Wealth Strength Fame Knowledge Beauty Renunciation Notice these correspond to: Jupiter, Sun/Mars, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn So, renunciation, is part of the scheme of life. It comes into play say, when one needs to walk away from a bad situation. It also comes into play at the end of life in many ways. However, it is not all of life, nor the perfection of life. It's the perfection of life in part, and only in part. All things must be done with it as part, but only as part. There is also doing the deed in it's fullness of Wealth, Strength, Fame, Knowledge and Beauty. This includes ourselves and our lives. Detachment should always be present, but it should not form the laws which kill beauty, for example. There were times when Christians "outlawed" pagan ways to kill them, believing them to be sinful. Witches have been burned. It goes so on, that I need not mention it all. Also, and importantly, the old religions of Celt/Druidism and Hindu/Brahminism both had medical and astrological systems, and both believed in karma yoga, as the hindus call it. That is, you give your all in life as best you can and be detached from the result, but know that the effort is your service to God. Being one in a community, being nature based, appreciating nature as Gods gift and as God itself in an impersonal form, and knowing their to be higher forces, believing in the old stories of visitations, believing there to be a superior supreme god, believing in reincarnation, this basis forms the old religions that covered Europe and India, and who knows, possibly elsewhere, possibly the Americas. I don't know everything, but I sure know India quite a bit, her scriptures, and now about Druidism as well (the Celts of ancient Europe, who were obliterated by Christianity with Roman backing). So I am not changing actually, but adding onto, myself and knowledge base. I know more now who I am and what I'm about. It's more clear than before. Life should be about Joy and Discovery, not with the Christian fears and morals. Jesus, the Bible, and all of that, it can't be straightened out. It's got too many old and bad ideas embedded in it. Just let it go. There is plenty of information and basis for going with the paradigms of the Celts and Hindus, which form the basis of most of the ancestry reading this, and find our way even in this day, in love and faith in the Divine, and find even greater oneness with that divinity, and greater health and happiness in our bodies, without having any trace of the Judeo Christian tradition anywhere in sight during or after the process of improvement. I mean, unfortunately, it really was a total miss. This Osama Bin Laden, Mohamed, Mecca, Jerusalem, I mean, what is anybody getting out of this for their minds, bodies, health, spirit, anything? There are positive and joyful Tirthas or Holy places, where good things happened, if you have to worship dirt as holy. Why not let dirt go, and be spirits in spirit? Dirt is not holy. Spirits are holy. Shooting humans over dirt is proof positive of the idiocy of these religions. I call all humans to wake up to spirit being superior to matter, and the value of preserving life, but do not extend that to the embryo in a human mother, who has the right to decide what goes on with her body without anyone's interference of morality. Human life includes the right to make one's own decisions. This cannot be regulated. Freedom. I'm sure so long as humans exist some will want to hunt animals and fish. So how can you stop a young woman from killing an embryo, much less conscious than a deer at that stage, to preserve her own life and protect the child from a bad life? In a real society of real spiritual science, this would not be an issue. We all die and reincarnate. We cannot be so weird about death. We have to get it straight and not be hypocrites. Like, we spend tons of money saving a pet cat with firemen and so on, and then we slaughter cows. Does that make sense? Nope. We do capital punishment, and outlaw abortion. This is the nature of Christianity, since it has no real philosophy, the countries that run on it have the hardest time deciding anything about the soul and life, because they actually don't have a belief, so they don't know what to believe, because it simply is not clear in their religion and therefore not in their personal paradigms, nor in the laws of their countries. And those countries who profess to be religiously ruled, like the "Islamic Republic of Iran", are simply repressive upon the people. Or the people welcome it. Woman can only wear black and white. That's it. They must be covered. ----------- And there's all kinds of other formalities that keep men and woman apart and keep sex a really seriously dangerous thing, to be fully regulated by government law, with limb cutting punishments right behind, readily carried out. ----------- And who suffers the most? The ones who are pure sex of course, the woman. Woman are the mother, the reproductive oven, the most loved thing to any man, and the most magical part of her body, the vagina, is the most covered and never mentioned, never shown. Then we go to pagan Ireland, and everywhere we find a female deity with her spreading the lips of her vagina wide open. whatever you are "used to" is NOT mysterious Think about it. Think about MTV I got my calling. It's a calling. -- Das Goravani , President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, Oregon, 97405 USA Voice: or <> Home of "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic Astrology Software , and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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