Jupiter, the Fat Guide

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Jupiter rules both large and guidance.

 

The reason is that the Jupiterian impulse is one of

concern over provisions, both for now, and the future.

This is one reason it's exalted in Cancer, the sign of

provisions.

 

Jupiter wants to teach others how to make sure they

are safe, secure, provided for, etc., on both a

material and subtle level, so that there now and

futures are safe and secure. It's essentially a desire

to see goodness in the form of security abound and be

available to all. The Jupiterian impulse believes

strongly in good guidance or education as a way of

insuring that the entity can guide itself through life

successfully for the fulfillment of being healthy,

happy, etc.

 

So one aspect of this personality type also is

"wanting more". The Jupiterian impulse is there

because of being concerned about things being nice,

rather than awful. Not being satisfied is part of

this. Wanting things to be really nice is also.

Grandiosity, Pride, Arrogance, Largeness, are all

traceable to Jupiter in charts easily, as is Law,

Teaching, Religion, etc.

 

Those who have strong Jupiters, like me, sometimes, as

in my case, just feel that something is wrong and that

research is required and guidance necessary, people

are being misled, guidance must be given, books must

be written, oh no, religion is wrong, and must be

corrected, and so on. This dissatisfaction and desire

to right wrongs gives a drive to speak and guide,

think deeply about "what's true", ie, "the laws of

God", "the laws of nature", and then "teach about

that". It's really because of their need themselves.

As usual, it's their projection.

 

Then others need that in their lives and participate,

and so everyone relates.

 

But dissatisfaction and seeking better answers, then

teaching them, is all part of it. Which means, they

themselves are preaching to themselves. This I know.

Others read it and find it interesting, but it's

really the Jupiter working out Jupiter inside itself.

It has both the concern, and the ability, along

Jupiterian lines. This includes delivery, hence it's

coupling with Mercury in angles, and together Law and

Print, Thought and Speaking, Preaching and Books,

Teaching and Books, always go together in life.

 

Jupiter is the higher side of the thing, and Mercury

is the delivery systems and persons.

 

All of these people act out of their own needs alone.

 

Therefore, when Jupiterian people announce Laws which

prevent a group of people from doing something that is

natural to them, a great problem begins. This is

usually only necessary when economics are concerned,

and the offending culture has to be changed to fit the

master plan.

 

When there is religious killing going on, there is

usually involvement of Jupiter and Sagittarius, and

Mars. There has to be that fight and kill element, and

the religious righteous feelings of Sagittarius and

Jupiter. Pisces is more about solving problems.

Sagittarius is much more fiery, martial, dangerous,

armies, etc.

 

The finest things in life, determined by all high

cultures, are the moments in life when the human is

exerting selfless effort for their own and common

good, or the act of sacrifice. We do this each day for

each other, and it creates happiness. The opposite,

exploitation, creates misery.

 

When the parts of our selves, our Jupiterian part, our

Venusian part, etc., are employed in acts of sacrifice

for our own and the common good, then they are

properly employed.

 

This is referring to a mood of submission of powerful

forces, UNDERneath more gentler forces. In other

words, in the known to be progressive, positive, and

wholistic paradigm, it is the force of submission

which is higher than the force of plain old force and

power. Indeed, those of us who know grace, religion,

spirituality, and have been around a number of

cultures andpersons professing to be advanced in same,

and have been around long enough in life to see what

really works in small and large situations and what

doesn't, I can assuredly say:

 

That it is indeed true that almost universally most

endevours go better if one takes the feminine tact,

the reflective, watchful, humble, student, servant,

tact, rather than the agressive, oblivious, dreadful,

master, tact. This is feminine thinking verse

masculine thinking, or also, partly, eastern verse

western.

 

I am noticing in Celtic literatures, a heavy

prodominance of people making it a point to point out

that Celts ate meat, and in this sense, they go on to

rather obliterate any progress made in pacivism and

vegetarianism over the past few decades in the West.

It's clear to me that these are meat eaters

originally, who are simply overjoyed to find out that

they now have a one up on vegetarians, a classical and

indigenous way of fighting back.

 

Look, those who are sincere about finding inner peace

and happiness are going to notice what works and

they're going to go with that. If you find it makes

you happy to eat meat, then I can't argue with you. If

you are open to hearing about vegetarian thinking,

then I can explain it. I cannot go back on mine. Why?

Because when I look at birds and animals and fish, I

could never want to disturb them. That's all. I cannot

want to shoot a hole in their lung, rip their cheek,

or shoot of their wing. I don't want to eat flesh. I

find the thought revolting. I want to talk to the

birds. I like knowing that the dear feels that I don't

eat meat. I think they can smell it. Of course they

can. Animals are very conscious of the real physical.

They can smell one who eats flesh verse one who does

not. They themselves, most of them, are vegetarians,

the higher ones almost always are. The animals that do

us the most good are. The animals we eat are.

 

Vegetarians are healthy, and need less land to

sustain. They do not interfere with animal species,

nor do they heard them, mass slaughter them, create

all that pain and screaming.

 

It's true that plants live, but they are much less

conscious than animals. Humans are more conscious than

animals, and Gods are more conscious than humans, if

they exist like that in a form of consciousness way,

it would only make sense.

 

Obviously, not everybody wants to give up meat eating.

So what. I'm never going to eat it unless I have to to

survive.

 

People who eat or don't eat meat, people who take

drugs and don't take drugs or alchohol, and all these

kinds of major differences in religion and lifestyles,

sexuality too, all of that, has to be tolerated.

Nobody can overlord it over anybody else in an

intelligent world.

 

When man is at his best, he acts feminine.

 

This means, do not agress, but take a hit. Serve, and

make others well. Provide, and make sure everyone is

fed. Clean, and keep everyone healthy. And do it all

for yourself.

 

Making weapons first, making power first, using such

without recourse or without due regard, forethought,

and without proper restraint throughout, is evidence

of unbridled masculinity, which means "playing God",

and which is always disastrous.

 

You see, as soon as you desire stronger than

passively, you are playing God. We can never guarantee

any result, so attachment is ignorance, and is to play

God.

 

To pretend to know, when you cannot, is to play God.

Anytime you play God, disaster will be the result. Man

is at his best, when he is always guided by restraint,

humility, and a desire to serve the center, which is

Divine, and good and one with nature.

 

Humans can be more divine than animals, and that is

why they think differently. They do not need to

regress to be good. They need to be fully human, there

will be answers.

 

Health is a very good guide. What is actually good for

the health, is generally the right thing. Bias can

again interfere here easily. Also, eating, the 2nd

house, is tied to the 8th house also, elimination and

other secret things, so there is always a tendency for

lieing and deceiving, as people do not want it to be

known the pain, diseases and smells that they

experience as a result of their eating habits. So

lieing in this realm is there.

 

But health is a guide, and of course, genuine

happiness and joy is a great indicator of proper

directional choice.

 

When I was a child, I remember being forced to "Go to

confession". So we'd get in the car on Saturday

evening, and drive to the Church, park, and walk in. I

remember the priest was often sitting on the steps of

the Church waiting for people to come. He was smoking,

and he had rosey red alchohol face, and ugly, and

white oily hair, dandruff, and a disgusting sound,

smell and look. He would go into the box, and we would

confess our sins to him.

 

I remember as a young boy, when I saw him on the green

marble stairs, in black, all disgusting looking,

though I was very young, I can still remember

registering the emotion of "this isn't right".

 

I always had the emotion throughout life over and over

in so many ways and places. Like, when I joined the

Catholic Priesthood at 13, they assigned a Priest to

teach me til I was college age, and this is called

your "Spiritual Guide". So I would visit him. I

remember sitting on his bed, noticing a stack of

Playboy magazines in clear view, knowing that he drank

alot of wine, was fat, was showing puffy rosey cheeks

in his thirties, and he sat there staring out the

window and said nothing to me at all for like a half

hour. He delivered terrible sermons, and quit and got

married. This is my ninth house for you.

 

Now this kind of thing, over and over in my life. My

relatives came over sometimes, and they were all good

Irish Catholics. They simply sat around stiff as

boards, drinking and smoking, saying very little, and

I could feel it clearly, they were super uptight, and

I could also smell their breath and bodies, and it was

very gross, not good, not natural.

 

When I met Hindus in India, it was the opposite,

suddenly everything is natural. Because there's so

much less of everything in their lives, including food

that is merely decorative chemicals.

 

Anyway, I was always registering "wrong" all my life.

Everything was wrong. I never felt love. There was

pain and competition everywhere, not only at my odd

homelife of 11 siblings, but also at school, and on

TV, and everywhere.

 

There was masculinity, everywhere. Bombs, killing,

etc. Talks always "broke down" and I never heard

hardly anything ever taught to me in school that was

intelligent from the heart of a human. Only logical

crap, math, writing, etc. But serious poetry or love,

or anything about the heart, or about doubt, or fear,

or horror, or anything real or serious, death!,

nothing like that. Not at home, and not at school.

Farts were even bad. You couldn't even talk about farts.

 

Everything about the body was bad and hidden. You

couldn't see mommy giving birth- big curtains. You

can't see dead bodies- they're in bags, or all made

up, or "closed casket".

 

You have to go "Rotten.com" if you want to see "real

death", otherwise in our society, you never do, unless

you happy to be at a real car crash, like I have been.

Then you do.

 

But otherwise, it ain't on TV, and it sure ain't on

MTV, which is what kids watch.

 

So, the delusion continues in the West. People are

still growing up thinking that "ooh that's gross"

whenever any part of the body is talked about other

than the face. Then when they grow up, they have

perverted or disturbed sexualities because they know

nothing about it going into it, and blow it a ton, and

then they're too far gone to return. I know. From

believing in blind arranged marriage to chasing sex

without restraint, I've run the gammut, and it's hell.

And this society, America, will let you do anything at

all. And friends, you can find any kind you want. You

can find any kind of sex partner you want too. There's

no guidance overriding in any way.

 

So one must learn, on one's own, to know and feel

inside, that inner guide, who can tell you when you're

going too far, when you are stealing, taking, not

caring, not giving. Unless you develop this, the

modern world won't stop you per se. You could go very

far into pain. When you get used to indulgence without

the balance of work, you have a hard time coming back

to balance. This is common in the West these days,

because it's possible finally, after centuries of

struggle, so naturally, we're getting the "Venus

damaged" visibly in our day.

 

 

From the softest/fastest to the hardest/slowest, it

is that combination of softness and restraint, which

should override and encase our thoughts and actions.

 

Inside that container, the rest of the planets live,

Jupiter guiding Mars and Venus, so that there's not

too much agression or pleasure, and the Sun provides

all with power. The Earth is the subject, the child.

If you care about a person, they are on Earth. The

Moon hovers the Earth, showing the caring nature of

the reflective one, the mother. So we should be like

mothers, and care for each other, be the reflective

people, then we will be like our planet and it's

mother Moon, and thus we and our Mother will live best.

 

Sacrifice for others creates abundance and trust.

Exploitation leads to famine and adversity.

 

No religion is above these natural laws. Only as far

as they teach it are they correct. Using a relgion to

fly in the face of natural laws is simply fear based

and shows lack of thought about simple logic. How can

a man made conception (religion) be above that which

is operating in full power and always has, and is way

bigger than us, and which is the source of our bodies

lives, in a very real and ongoing sense?

 

Insanity can have many labels, and one of them is

"religion".

 

Choose wisely.

 

It should lead to health, happiness, peace, pleasure,

joy, acceptance of diversity, allowance for diversity,

and it must be sustainable on Earth, otherwise it's a lie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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