Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Dear Cynthia I think this is very good advice . I like these practical remedials I have Mars in 1st and need physical activity . When working a desk job I used to take the stairs rather than the lift . Kind regards Nicholas - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:06 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Inder Jit Sahni > I have found that where Mars is powerful it is essential to get plenty of > physical exercise. When two Marsians <grins> are living together it is very > helpful to do activities together. Some sort of sport or vigorous walking > really helps move the tension out of the body and make life easier in > general. I know that this sounds too simplistic, but it really seems to > work. Mars is the planet of action and war. When there is too much sitting > and too much mental rather than physical action there is a steady flow of > internal dialogue. This dialogue is often fierce and argumentative. > Youfind yourself trying to win a non existent argument! > > Then you spend time with your partner and you are ready for the fight that > may not be in his or her mind. The ultimate manifestation of too little > physical exercise for a powerful mars ...or Rahu for that matter...is > depression. > > The depression originates in the internal struggles that lies between the > two partners no matter where they go. > > So, the use of physical activity to the point of being tired on a regular > basis is very helpful to move the anger out before it festers within. > > Once that internal arguing takes hold it is very difficult to see how the > two people could ever get along. Bring in outsiders or family members to > support either side and you have a real mess and two folks who may end up > exhausts and frustrated emotionally with too little to give. > > The antidote is often a change in perspective. Each person must become > aware of what is really happening and what they have happening in their > thoughts. A thought form is not "truth" simply because you think it. > > I've had coffee this morning so I'm rambling, but trying to help, honest, > not trying to attack or accuse. I am guilty of this myself with mars and > Mercury in the 5th <grins> > > Here's the trick, you are just one thought away from peace of mind at any > time. The antidote to fear is faith. If you can find something to like > about the partner and stop the internal arguing with him or her you can step > outside of the struggle and may find solid ground to build upon. In the > mean time get moving. > > cynthia > - > "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni > <gjlist> > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:33 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear Cynthia, > > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and cancellation due to > > match. > > The forces will work in the same way, the couple will feel the pinch of > Mars > > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be canceled in the process > . > > > > It is like two missile first fired and then lost in the sky due to > striking > > with each other . > > But what will happen if they wont strike with each other? > > > > inder jit sahni > > - > > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > > <gjlist> > > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Dear John > > > > > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how does > > > that work in your experience? > > > > > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts > (admittedly > > I > > > get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they were > > very > > > mature. > > > > > > c > > > > > > - > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > <gjlist> > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > Cynthia, > > > > > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > > > > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > > > > in the marriage. > > > > > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > > > > representative of relationships in general. As an > > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > > > > married man and had a family. > > > > > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > > > > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > > > > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > > > > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > > > > take life as it comes. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > > > > Dear John et al > > > > > > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > > > > works well? It would seem > > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > > > > willful, even egotistical > > > > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > > > > one person is more laid > > > > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > > > > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > > > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > > > > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > > > > Mars but isn't it > > > > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > > > > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > > > <gjlist> > > > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > > > > have > > > > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > > > > Sade > > > > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > > > > about 8 > > > > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > > > > after > > > > > > > getting my > > > > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > > > > pandits > > > > > > > and they all > > > > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > > > > about to > > > > > > > break and wanted > > > > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > > > > because > > > > > > > of malefic > > > > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > > > > > > > suggest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > > > > Tat > > > > > > > Sat > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > > > > > http://health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > > > Sat > > > > > > : > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > > > Sat > > > > > : > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > > > http://health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Dear Nicholas and John Thank you for putting up with me. I've had to develop these tools over time with clients. I try to figure out what the energy naturally wants and the find an outlet for it. If Mars wants to take action...give it some! If Venus longs for indulgence and lone find a way to feed her and she will be productive. If Saturn is driving you crazy give him a job. Saturn hates to feel useless so simple tasks are wonderful therapy. If someone has a problem planet I try to help them untie the knot. Today I had another woman who had a reading by a traditional Hindu astrologer. She said the only thing she could remember was that he told her through an interpreter that she would NEVER find happiness in marriage. I said, so, if not marriage how about romance and we started there. People take these words in deeply and even I as an astrologer do. I had a session with an ayurvedic astrologer who is even a friend. He casually said that as I left my Jupiter MD (in Jupiter Rahu) DL, my sweetie would suffer. I said suffer what. He did not know. Later I asked him where he got that in the chart. Oh, he mused, I think it was in the behave chart. I said have you been using it long. No, he said, just a few weeks. So, I get on a soapbox at us all, myself included to be ever conscious of the person on the other side of the chart. Spirit seems to send me women with cuja dosha with Mars in or aspecting the 7th. I figure I better find some remedial to offer. Thank you for the kind words. And keep Moving. I have a client whose spouse is an attorney . Lost of sitting. He runs daily and so avoid depression and making his family crazy. Take those stairs. My brain makes mecrazy, I was horrible in the office. When I was an insurance investigator I was always happier out in the field. When I worked in I would be fine for a couple of days then I would start pacing and drive the regular inoffice staff up the wall so they would send me out again. I managed to stay there 9 years. smiles c c - "Nicholas" <jyotish108 <gjlist> Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:08 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis/relief from Mars > Dear Cynthia > I think this is very good advice . > I like these practical remedials > I have Mars in 1st and need physical activity . > When working a desk job I used to take the stairs rather than the lift . > Kind regards > Nicholas > - > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > <gjlist> > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:06 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear Inder Jit Sahni > > I have found that where Mars is powerful it is essential to get plenty of > > physical exercise. When two Marsians <grins> are living together it is > very > > helpful to do activities together. Some sort of sport or vigorous walking > > really helps move the tension out of the body and make life easier in > > general. I know that this sounds too simplistic, but it really seems to > > work. Mars is the planet of action and war. When there is too much > sitting > > and too much mental rather than physical action there is a steady flow of > > internal dialogue. This dialogue is often fierce and argumentative. > > Youfind yourself trying to win a non existent argument! > > > > Then you spend time with your partner and you are ready for the fight that > > may not be in his or her mind. The ultimate manifestation of too little > > physical exercise for a powerful mars ...or Rahu for that matter...is > > depression. > > > > The depression originates in the internal struggles that lies between the > > two partners no matter where they go. > > > > So, the use of physical activity to the point of being tired on a regular > > basis is very helpful to move the anger out before it festers within. > > > > Once that internal arguing takes hold it is very difficult to see how the > > two people could ever get along. Bring in outsiders or family members to > > support either side and you have a real mess and two folks who may end up > > exhausts and frustrated emotionally with too little to give. > > > > The antidote is often a change in perspective. Each person must become > > aware of what is really happening and what they have happening in their > > thoughts. A thought form is not "truth" simply because you think it. > > > > I've had coffee this morning so I'm rambling, but trying to help, honest, > > not trying to attack or accuse. I am guilty of this myself with mars and > > Mercury in the 5th <grins> > > > > Here's the trick, you are just one thought away from peace of mind at any > > time. The antidote to fear is faith. If you can find something to like > > about the partner and stop the internal arguing with him or her you can > step > > outside of the struggle and may find solid ground to build upon. In the > > mean time get moving. > > > > cynthia > > - > > "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni > > <gjlist> > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:33 PM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Dear Cynthia, > > > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and cancellation due to > > > match. > > > The forces will work in the same way, the couple will feel the pinch of > > Mars > > > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be canceled in the > process > > . > > > > > > It is like two missile first fired and then lost in the sky due to > > striking > > > with each other . > > > But what will happen if they wont strike with each other? > > > > > > inder jit sahni > > > - > > > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > > > <gjlist> > > > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > Dear John > > > > > > > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how > does > > > > that work in your experience? > > > > > > > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts > > (admittedly > > > I > > > > get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they > were > > > very > > > > mature. > > > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > - > > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM > > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cynthia, > > > > > > > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > > > > > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > > > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > > > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > > > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > > > > > in the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > > > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > > > > > representative of relationships in general. As an > > > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > > > > > married man and had a family. > > > > > > > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > > > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > > > > > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > > > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > > > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > > > > > > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > > > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > > > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > > > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > > > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > > > > > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > > > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > > > > > take life as it comes. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > > > > > Dear John et al > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > > > > > works well? It would seem > > > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > > > > > willful, even egotistical > > > > > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > > > > > one person is more laid > > > > > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > > > > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > > > > > > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > > > > > Mars but isn't it > > > > > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > > > > > > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > > > > <gjlist> > > > > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > > > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > > > > > have > > > > > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > > > > > Sade > > > > > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > > > > > about 8 > > > > > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > > > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > > > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > getting my > > > > > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > > > > > pandits > > > > > > > > and they all > > > > > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > break and wanted > > > > > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > of malefic > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > > > > > > > > suggest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > > > > > Tat > > > > > > > > Sat > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > > > > > > http://health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > > > > Sat > > > > > > > : > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > > > > > Sat > > > > > > : > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > > > > http://health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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