Marriage compatibilty analysis (Cynthia)

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Cynthia,

 

You obviously have your own theory about marriage

compatibility for people living in the United States.

This area of jyotish appears to need more research,

particularly for people living in the US.

 

Chakrapani Ullal, a renowned jyotishi, living in Los

Angeles, California mentioned to us in one of his

classes that the classical jyotish principles of

compatibility do not always apply to people in the US.

He even included that statement to Indian-born

citizens who are living in this country.

 

He stated that the cultural expectations regarding

marriage in the US are different than in India. This

cultural environment probably accounts for much of the

divorces in this country.

 

Perhaps, jyotishis in this country should further

study the elements of good marriage compatibility for

this region of the world.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

--- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote:

> Dear Inder Jit Sahni

> I have found that where Mars is powerful it is

> essential to get plenty of

> physical exercise. When two Marsians <grins> are

> living together it is very

> helpful to do activities together. Some sort of

> sport or vigorous walking

> really helps move the tension out of the body and

> make life easier in

> general. I know that this sounds too simplistic,

> but it really seems to

> work. Mars is the planet of action and war. When

> there is too much sitting

> and too much mental rather than physical action

> there is a steady flow of

> internal dialogue. This dialogue is often fierce

> and argumentative.

> Youfind yourself trying to win a non existent

> argument!

>

> Then you spend time with your partner and you are

> ready for the fight that

> may not be in his or her mind. The ultimate

> manifestation of too little

> physical exercise for a powerful mars ...or Rahu for

> that matter...is

> depression.

>

> The depression originates in the internal struggles

> that lies between the

> two partners no matter where they go.

>

> So, the use of physical activity to the point of

> being tired on a regular

> basis is very helpful to move the anger out before

> it festers within.

>

> Once that internal arguing takes hold it is very

> difficult to see how the

> two people could ever get along. Bring in outsiders

> or family members to

> support either side and you have a real mess and two

> folks who may end up

> exhausts and frustrated emotionally with too little

> to give.

>

> The antidote is often a change in perspective. Each

> person must become

> aware of what is really happening and what they have

> happening in their

> thoughts. A thought form is not "truth" simply

> because you think it.

>

> I've had coffee this morning so I'm rambling, but

> trying to help, honest,

> not trying to attack or accuse. I am guilty of this

> myself with mars and

> Mercury in the 5th <grins>

>

> Here's the trick, you are just one thought away from

> peace of mind at any

> time. The antidote to fear is faith. If you can

> find something to like

> about the partner and stop the internal arguing with

> him or her you can step

> outside of the struggle and may find solid ground to

> build upon. In the

> mean time get moving.

>

> cynthia

> -

> "Inder Jit Sahni"

> <inder_jit_sahni

> <gjlist>

> Monday, July 29, 2002 11:33 PM

> Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

>

>

> > Dear Cynthia,

> > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and

> cancellation due to

> > match.

> > The forces will work in the same way, the couple

> will feel the pinch of

> Mars

> > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be

> canceled in the process

> .

> >

> > It is like two missile first fired and then lost

> in the sky due to

> striking

> > with each other .

> > But what will happen if they wont strike with each

> other?

> >

> > inder jit sahni

> > -

> > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

> > <gjlist>

> > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM

> > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

> >

> >

> > > Dear John

> > >

> > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be

> compatible and how does

> > > that work in your experience?

> > >

> > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw

> client charts

> (admittedly

> > I

> > > get to see more than most folks) it was very

> difficult unless they were

> > very

> > > mature.

> > >

> > > c

> > >

> > > -

> > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM

> > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

> > >

> > >

> > > > Cynthia,

> > > >

> > > > It appears that all astrologers have different

> opinion

> > > > about how to match couples for better

> marriages. In

> > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to

> be the

> > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2)

> quantify the

> > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the

> happiness

> > > > in the marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book

> relating to

> > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair

> and

> > > > representative of relationships in general.

> As an

> > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he

> was a

> > > > married man and had a family.

> > > >

> > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an

> excellent book

> > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for

> recognizing

> > > > a good match are complicated to say the least.

> In my

> > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the

> person

> > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect

> match.

> > > >

> > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of

> > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the

> > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on

> the method

> > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree

> on the

> > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As

> such,

> > > > he has the option to take a chance on the

> marriage

> > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he

> can

> > > > take life as it comes.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > John R.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak

> wrote:

> > > > > Dear John et al

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja

> dosa

> > > > > works well? It would seem

> > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person

> who is

> > > > > willful, even egotistical

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

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Dear John

 

Thank you for your kind words. There is nothing I would like more than to

have greater clarity with this. I think that there is much to say about the

cultural difference. Perhaps we can begin to revise by what our clients

teach us. At least that is where I am, ever learning.

 

I've found that spirit will send me several of the same lagna or same planet

in the 7th in the same week or maybe two.

 

Ketu in the 7th is always an eye opener. Relationships are unusual and

karmic in some way. Boy are they teachers.

 

c

 

-

"John Rasonabe" <jr_esq

<gjlist>

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:29 PM

Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis (Cynthia)

 

 

> Cynthia,

>

> You obviously have your own theory about marriage

> compatibility for people living in the United States.

> This area of jyotish appears to need more research,

> particularly for people living in the US.

>

> Chakrapani Ullal, a renowned jyotishi, living in Los

> Angeles, California mentioned to us in one of his

> classes that the classical jyotish principles of

> compatibility do not always apply to people in the US.

> He even included that statement to Indian-born

> citizens who are living in this country.

>

> He stated that the cultural expectations regarding

> marriage in the US are different than in India. This

> cultural environment probably accounts for much of the

> divorces in this country.

>

> Perhaps, jyotishis in this country should further

> study the elements of good marriage compatibility for

> this region of the world.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

> --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote:

> > Dear Inder Jit Sahni

> > I have found that where Mars is powerful it is

> > essential to get plenty of

> > physical exercise. When two Marsians <grins> are

> > living together it is very

> > helpful to do activities together. Some sort of

> > sport or vigorous walking

> > really helps move the tension out of the body and

> > make life easier in

> > general. I know that this sounds too simplistic,

> > but it really seems to

> > work. Mars is the planet of action and war. When

> > there is too much sitting

> > and too much mental rather than physical action

> > there is a steady flow of

> > internal dialogue. This dialogue is often fierce

> > and argumentative.

> > Youfind yourself trying to win a non existent

> > argument!

> >

> > Then you spend time with your partner and you are

> > ready for the fight that

> > may not be in his or her mind. The ultimate

> > manifestation of too little

> > physical exercise for a powerful mars ...or Rahu for

> > that matter...is

> > depression.

> >

> > The depression originates in the internal struggles

> > that lies between the

> > two partners no matter where they go.

> >

> > So, the use of physical activity to the point of

> > being tired on a regular

> > basis is very helpful to move the anger out before

> > it festers within.

> >

> > Once that internal arguing takes hold it is very

> > difficult to see how the

> > two people could ever get along. Bring in outsiders

> > or family members to

> > support either side and you have a real mess and two

> > folks who may end up

> > exhausts and frustrated emotionally with too little

> > to give.

> >

> > The antidote is often a change in perspective. Each

> > person must become

> > aware of what is really happening and what they have

> > happening in their

> > thoughts. A thought form is not "truth" simply

> > because you think it.

> >

> > I've had coffee this morning so I'm rambling, but

> > trying to help, honest,

> > not trying to attack or accuse. I am guilty of this

> > myself with mars and

> > Mercury in the 5th <grins>

> >

> > Here's the trick, you are just one thought away from

> > peace of mind at any

> > time. The antidote to fear is faith. If you can

> > find something to like

> > about the partner and stop the internal arguing with

> > him or her you can step

> > outside of the struggle and may find solid ground to

> > build upon. In the

> > mean time get moving.

> >

> > cynthia

> > -

> > "Inder Jit Sahni"

> > <inder_jit_sahni

> > <gjlist>

> > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:33 PM

> > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

> >

> >

> > > Dear Cynthia,

> > > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and

> > cancellation due to

> > > match.

> > > The forces will work in the same way, the couple

> > will feel the pinch of

> > Mars

> > > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be

> > canceled in the process

> > .

> > >

> > > It is like two missile first fired and then lost

> > in the sky due to

> > striking

> > > with each other .

> > > But what will happen if they wont strike with each

> > other?

> > >

> > > inder jit sahni

> > > -

> > > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

> > > <gjlist>

> > > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM

> > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear John

> > > >

> > > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be

> > compatible and how does

> > > > that work in your experience?

> > > >

> > > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw

> > client charts

> > (admittedly

> > > I

> > > > get to see more than most folks) it was very

> > difficult unless they were

> > > very

> > > > mature.

> > > >

> > > > c

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq

> > > > <gjlist>

> > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM

> > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Cynthia,

> > > > >

> > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different

> > opinion

> > > > > about how to match couples for better

> > marriages. In

> > > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to

> > be the

> > > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2)

> > quantify the

> > > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the

> > happiness

> > > > > in the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book

> > relating to

> > > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair

> > and

> > > > > representative of relationships in general.

> > As an

> > > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he

> > was a

> > > > > married man and had a family.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an

> > excellent book

> > > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for

> > recognizing

> > > > > a good match are complicated to say the least.

> > In my

> > > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the

> > person

> > > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect

> > match.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of

> > > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the

> > > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on

> > the method

> > > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree

> > on the

> > > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As

> > such,

> > > > > he has the option to take a chance on the

> > marriage

> > > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he

> > can

> > > > > take life as it comes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > John R.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak

> > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear John et al

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja

> > dosa

> > > > > > works well? It would seem

> > > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person

> > who is

> > > > > > willful, even egotistical

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Cynthia,

 

Would this also apply if one does NOT have Ketu in 7th in Rasi - but DOES

have it in 7th in Navamsa?

 

Thanks - Sateesh.

 

========

 

: -

: "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak

: <gjlist>

: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:56 AM

: Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis (Cynthia)

:

:

: :: Ketu in the 7th is always an eye opener. Relationships are unusual and

: : karmic in some way. Boy are they teachers.

 

 

 

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