Another real life example

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Hi

 

In coming forward in my life these days, I'm thinking

back on things, reviewing the life, my feelings

throughout and so on. It makes some astrological

points of interest.

 

One simple thing: Jupiter and Venus are benefics.

Saturn and Rahu malefics.

 

In this life, I have the benefics in trines, Jup-9, Ven-1

 

I also have the malefics in trines: Sat-9, Rahu-5

 

I ran Jupiter-Venus around age 20.

 

I just ran Saturn Rahu.

 

Jupiter-Venus saw me:

1. Join Hare Krishna

2. Travel all expenses paid around world twice with Guru

3. Visit numerous holy places all over the world, esp.

India

4. Meet many spiritually involved people/leaders

5. Run temples, run temple programs, learn Sanskrit

start, Scripture etc.

6. Get married- a blind kindof religious marriage

7. Took numerous "dips in the Ganges" just like it says

8. Was the favorite of a Guru with hundreds of disciples

(just like Jataka Tattva says for Jupiter in Mridu

Shasti. at 9 deg Sagit.)

( it says "will be the favorite of the Guru". I was.)

 

 

Saturn-Rahu saw me:

1. Sunk in pain

2. Unable to work

3. Seeing shrinks, taking meds

4. Being abandoned

5. Kid nearly dies

6. Kids move out of my house

7. Get nothing done, money decreases sharply

8. Loss of prestige, loss of all kinds of relationships

9. Turning to alternatives for Venusian input

10. Feeling no wife, no love, no presence of anyone,

lonely

 

So as you can see, true to form, one period was

exalted, the other, depressing.

 

The above readings sound like they come straight out

of astrology books from India.

 

I also want to say something basic again that I've

said before: I have a rare yoga for children being

harmed- they both were, seriously so.

 

Another thing of interest: Recently, I switched to a

Jupiter Bhukti again- right around now, or a couple

days ago. Corresponding to this, lately, there are

some people here in Eugene who have kindof discovered

me lately. They own a healing center. The owner family

has gotten to know me and I them. We're friends. They

are rather impressed with my being, and they call me

"The Guru of the Kelts". Now this is a joke and

encouragement they're trying to give me. But the point

is, they started saying this to me exactly when the

Bhukti began, and Jupiter is Guru. So it's not a

coincidence, it's karma.

 

Then too, I am not a disciple of Prabhupada, but

yesterday I got an invitation to write a Vyasa Puja

offering for him. This is a Guru thing. It's not

normal for me to receive that invitation in a way, but

here it is in this Bhukti, another Guru connection.

 

I'm not able to always tell exactly which of the many

possibilities of events will occur, but in hindsight,

certainly, gosh, my chart follows my dashas very well.

 

Now this being the case, certainly the only thing then

is "how to deal", which is mental, internal. So then

certainly the ability to be happy without external

help is essential, since the externals may be so bad

so, as to include death, war, disease, etc, at the

worst, and even at best, daily life includes strife

and struggle to some degree. So the knowledge that

karma and fixed paths exist is essential for knowing

what is and is not really helpful for gaining happiness.

 

Interestingly, the HK movement, Prabhupada's books,

stress repeatedly the need to surrender to God and not

try to manipulate nature for your own ends, fruit

hunting, desiring. Now, he hardly mentions astrology,

rarely did, but gosh, it just swipingly proves one

side of this easily. So I think it's so important to

show the world, and show ourselves, how well it's working.

 

By the way, my son, he's in Ketu dasha, and one of the

readings says something about difficult or odd

relationships, and sure enough, he keeps getting

really promising girlfriends, but each time, there is

something drastically wrong which is quite odd, and

requires him to have an "odd relationship" to make it

stay. These are beyond normal. Again, I see it working.

 

In Jupiter Saturn, which ran from age 11 to 14:

 

Lost my father, took drugs for first time, the amazing

world of LSD/Mushrooms opened for me which changed my

outlook on life dramatically, from little kid, to

psychadelics maniac, my life opened in a big way as I

started High School and really liked it better, by

far, than before, the grade school thing. Finally got

away from being in my childhood neighborhood, this

High School was further away. It brought me in close

but good contact with many Chicanos and Afr.Amers. in

the downtown of Oakland, but it went really well. I

met some Franciscan brothers who became my good

friends and surrogate fathers.

 

Mind you, for me, the psychadelics supported spiritual

precepts within me. Since childhood I believed in God

strongly. When I saw the Mandalas present within all

of nature, then I knew for sure that He was into

Beauty. When I saw the Blue People again for the first

time in this life, there was an instant connection-

the beauty and bliss found artificially in intoxicants

was clearly represented in those pictures. Those

pictures looked liked, to me, a permanent "trip".

 

Though I was tripping, they didn't know it, and I was

then always, the "favorite" of the religious leaders

at the High School. I was close to some of them. I

wrote great papers on religion. I did really good in

school, honor roll, slept through Calculus and passed

anyway. You see, what was really going on, then, as

usual in my life, was that I was in my own headspace,

separate from others around me, and tripping on God,

and thinking about how to change the world to be more

spiritual, so I could like it better. This is pretty

much ALL I've ever thought about. At that time, in

Jupiter-Saturn, (which is now repeating kindof as

Saturn-Jupiter), you could say it was a time of loss

and gain of fathers, perceptions into God, but through

odd or usually "illegal" means, a real feeling of

being connected to God, amongst many who were not

interested, a rich inner life to make up for the

lonliness. Interestingly, the first person to give me

any drugs, which started a rather "spiritual" change

in life for me, died shortly thereafter in a car crash.

 

You see, my ninth house has those two opposite, Saturn

and Jupiter. So he gave me drugs, this is Saturn, and

he died, also Saturn. But this was like the beginning

of Tantric God Consciousness for me, which has been a

huge part of my life. Seeing God always, yes, but like

some practitioners, and maybe we can say "Lord Shiva",

there's some Tama Guna "around", if you're judging, as

is usually the case with Tantrics.

 

When my father went away during the first one,

Jupiter-Saturn, there was a sense of relief, and a

change in the family. In this one, GJ3 will be

finished, and that will be a relief. A big one, as

it's been an anxiety waiting to hatch for years now. I

also went back then, from Catholic Grade School in my

own home neighborhood which was all upper class and

white (though we were poor), to a school in the Ghetto

in Oakland, where I regularly got hit by African

Americans attending there, who's lives were not the

most opulant in Oakland. So there was a loss of

protection, but a much wider bigger world gained. I

also "cut schoo" for the first time, and that's the

Saturn in the 9th of higher education again.

 

I write all this as examples for beginners to ponder

and be convinced by, learn from, no other reason.

 

Peace

 

 

--

 

 

Das Goravani , President

 

2852 Willamette St, #353

Eugene, Oregon, 97405

USA

 

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Namaste!

Very informative posting!

How about your saturn-venus, saturn-sun, jupiter-rahu, jupiter -saturn period ?

Please tell us about your experience during above period.

Minu Desai

Das Goravani wrote:

HiIn coming forward in my life these days, I'm thinking back on things,

reviewing the life, my feelings throughout and so on. It makes some

astrological points of interest.One simple thing: Jupiter and Venus are

benefics. Saturn and Rahu malefics.In this life, I have the benefics in trines,

Jup-9, Ven-1I also have the malefics in trines: Sat-9, Rahu-5I ran Jupiter-Venus

around age 20.I just ran Saturn Rahu.Jupiter-Venus saw me:1. Join Hare Krishna2.

Travel all expenses paid around world twice with Guru3. Visit numerous holy

places all over the world, esp. India4. Meet many spiritually involved

people/leaders5. Run temples, run temple programs, learn Sanskrit start,

Scripture etc.6. Get married- a blind kindof religious marriage7. Took numerous

"dips in the Ganges" just like it says8. Was the favorite of a Guru with

hundreds of disciples(just like Jataka Tattva says for Jupiter in Mridu Shasti.

at 9 deg Sagit.)( it says "will be the favorite of the Guru". I was.)Saturn-Rahu

saw me:1. Sunk in pain2. Unable to work3. Seeing shrinks, taking meds4. Being

abandoned5. Kid nearly dies6. Kids move out of my house7. Get nothing done,

money decreases sharply8. Loss of prestige, loss of all kinds of

relationships9. Turning to alternatives for Venusian input10. Feeling no wife,

no love, no presence of anyone, lonelySo as you can see, true to form, one

period was exalted, the other, depressing.The above readings sound like they

come straight out of astrology books from India.I also want to say something

basic again that I've said before: I have a rare yoga for children being

harmed- they both were, seriously so.Another thing of interest: Recently, I

switched to a Jupiter Bhukti again- right around now, or a couple days ago.

Corresponding to this, lately, there are some people here in Eugene who have

kindof discovered me lately. They own a healing center. The owner family has

gotten to know me and I them. We're friends. They are rather impressed with my

being, and they call me "The Guru of the Kelts". Now this is a joke and

encouragement they're trying to give me. But the point is, they started saying

this to me exactly when the Bhukti began, and Jupiter is Guru. So it's not a

coincidence, it's karma.Then too, I am not a disciple of Prabhupada, but

yesterday I got an invitation to write a Vyasa Puja offering for him. This is a

Guru thing. It's not normal for me to receive that invitation in a way, but here

it is in this Bhukti, another Guru connection.I'm not able to always tell

exactly which of the many possibilities of events will occur, but in hindsight,

certainly, gosh, my chart follows my dashas very well.Now this being the case,

certainly the only thing then is "how to deal", which is mental, internal. So

then certainly the ability to be happy without external help is essential,

since the externals may be so bad so, as to include death, war, disease, etc,

at the worst, and even at best, daily life includes strife and struggle to some

degree. So the knowledge that karma and fixed paths exist is essential for

knowing what is and is not really helpful for gaining happiness.Interestingly,

the HK movement, Prabhupada's books, stress repeatedly the need to surrender to

God and not try to manipulate nature for your own ends, fruit hunting, desiring.

Now, he hardly mentions astrology, rarely did, but gosh, it just swipingly

proves one side of this easily. So I think it's so important to show the world,

and show ourselves, how well it's working.By the way, my son, he's in Ketu

dasha, and one of the readings says something about difficult or odd

relationships, and sure enough, he keeps getting really promising girlfriends,

but each time, there is something drastically wrong which is quite odd, and

requires him to have an "odd relationship" to make it stay. These are beyond

normal. Again, I see it working.In Jupiter Saturn, which ran from age 11 to

14:Lost my father, took drugs for first time, the amazing world of

LSD/Mushrooms opened for me which changed my outlook on life dramatically, from

little kid, to psychadelics maniac, my life opened in a big way as I started

High School and really liked it better, by far, than before, the grade school

thing. Finally got away from being in my childhood neighborhood, this High

School was further away. It brought me in close but good contact with many

Chicanos and Afr.Amers. in the downtown of Oakland, but it went really well. I

met some Franciscan brothers who became my good friends and surrogate

fathers.Mind you, for me, the psychadelics supported spiritual precepts within

me. Since childhood I believed in God strongly. When I saw the Mandalas present

within all of nature, then I knew for sure that He was into Beauty. When I saw

the Blue People again for the first time in this life, there was an instant

connection- the beauty and bliss found artificially in intoxicants was clearly

represented in those pictures. Those pictures looked liked, to me, a permanent

"trip".Though I was tripping, they didn't know it, and I was then always, the

"favorite" of the religious leaders at the High School. I was close to some of

them. I wrote great papers on religion. I did really good in school, honor

roll, slept through Calculus and passed anyway. You see, what was really going

on, then, as usual in my life, was that I was in my own headspace, separate

from others around me, and tripping on God, and thinking about how to change

the world to be more spiritual, so I could like it better. This is pretty much

ALL I've ever thought about. At that time, in Jupiter-Saturn, (which is now

repeating kindof as Saturn-Jupiter), you could say it was a time of loss and

gain of fathers, perceptions into God, but through odd or usually "illegal"

means, a real feeling of being connected to God, amongst many who were not

interested, a rich inner life to make up for the lonliness. Interestingly, the

first person to give me any drugs, which started a rather "spiritual" change in

life for me, died shortly thereafter in a car crash.You see, my ninth house has

those two opposite, Saturn and Jupiter. So he gave me drugs, this is Saturn,

and he died, also Saturn. But this was like the beginning of Tantric God

Consciousness for me, which has been a huge part of my life. Seeing God always,

yes, but like some practitioners, and maybe we can say "Lord Shiva", there's

some Tama Guna "around", if you're judging, as is usually the case with

Tantrics.When my father went away during the first one, Jupiter-Saturn, there

was a sense of relief, and a change in the family. In this one, GJ3 will be

finished, and that will be a relief. A big one, as it's been an anxiety waiting

to hatch for years now. I also went back then, from Catholic Grade School in my

own home neighborhood which was all upper class and white (though we were

poor), to a school in the Ghetto in Oakland, where I regularly got hit by

African Americans attending there, who's lives were not the most opulant in

Oakland. So there was a loss of protection, but a much wider bigger world

gained. I also "cut schoo" for the first time, and that's the Saturn in the 9th

of higher education again.I write all this as examples for beginners to ponder

and be convinced by, learn from, no other reason.Peace-- Das Goravani ,

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