Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 ||Om Guruve Namah|| Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted to seek your advice about the causes for it. My birthdetails: Name: Lokesh Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 Time: 6:57 AM Place : Ambala, India Latitude: 30N55'00 Longitude: 76E57'00 Name: Monica Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 Time: 6:13 PM Place : Bhiwani, India Latitude: 28N46'00 Longitude: 76E07'59 I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. Thank you Lokesh Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Dear Lokesh, I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras in which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. It is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few cases of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives you a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which you need to do in person and not be e mail. Good Luck, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net - "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > My birthdetails: > > Name: Lokesh > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > Time: 6:57 AM > Place : Ambala, India > Latitude: 30N55'00 > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > Name: Monica > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > Time: 6:13 PM > Place : Bhiwani, India > Latitude: 28N46'00 > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > Thank you > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Dear Ernst Would you be able to simply describe why a couple in a modern culture would want to rely upon the compatibility structure of the ancient? I've seen the charts of several couples who were matched and even as a western only astrologer I could see the obvious difficulty. I do not claim to know much about this system but clients who have experienced it seem to feel that the woman is always blamed for the problems of the marriage. Is this a common part of it? Again, I apologize for my ignorance and would appreciate a better view than what I have seen thus far. I assume that there is much to it, but experience has shown me very little and so I have not gone future in study about it. This question is open for all. c - "Ernst" <ernst <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:07 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Lokesh, > I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras in > which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. It > is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few cases > of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives you > a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which you > need to do in person and not be e mail. > > Good Luck, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > > > - > "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM > [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > Name: Lokesh > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > Time: 6:57 AM > > Place : Ambala, India > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > Name: Monica > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > Time: 6:13 PM > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > > > Thank you > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Dear Ernst I have two clients, husband and wife who share Bharani for the Moon. She is a therapist and they use therapy as a regular part of their lives together. BTW, he is a obstetrician and children are a big part of their marriage. (coincidence?) c - "Ernst" <ernst <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:07 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Lokesh, > I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras in > which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. It > is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few cases > of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives you > a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which you > need to do in person and not be e mail. > > Good Luck, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > > > - > "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM > [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > Name: Lokesh > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > Time: 6:57 AM > > Place : Ambala, India > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > Name: Monica > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > Time: 6:13 PM > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > > > Thank you > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Dear Lokesh, In your match the major defect is Nadi , though it is reduced due to different padas , but it is not eliminated. You was destined to marry this girl , because, Your 7th navmash lord Sun is in Pisces and this is ascendant of your wife. Your wife's 7th navmash lord is mars placed in Taurus and your ascendant is 7th to it. Now as per your wife chart her Venus shows an unstable mind due to Venus in cancer and moon 10th from it, but she was treated with great care (Venus with his friend rahu in the royal house of Queen Moon) in her parents house. To meet her husband she is to cross the barrier of Sun Jupiter and Saturn , Sun the King , Jupiter the Guide and Saturn the royal servant all are based in the sign of commerce and this is sign of fall for Venus , So she will feel lot of humiliation here, where she would be evaluated according to facts and figures based on the principal of Mercury, this will happen after third month or 3rd year of marriage. Next to this combination there is Mars her husband , in her own house but with two enemies fighting with each other(mercury and Moon,moon for mother in law and brother in law or sister in law for mercury) and thus rendered weak this husband will not be able to support her mentally. Now as per transit the Rahu transit from Taurus and Aries are very bad for the mental piece of your wife. As per your chart, Venus the significator of your wife and 7th lord has Mars in his sign. Venus was strong before coming to your house , because it was with Rahu , rahu longitude is less than Venus, but she is to face Moon with ketu from 6th (mother in law with dispute creator ketu) and in the next house she has Sun another enemy so she become weak after entering in your house. The + point is , though Sun is very arrogant , being in the sign of mars and due to aspect of Mars , but it is judicious due to aspect of Jupiter from the 5th. To meet his wife Mars is to cross Saturn and Rahu , and both are his enemies ( it will mean that husband will have to make adjustments which are against his nature), as such the disturbance in marriage life. Mercury in trine with Ketu and Moon shows knowledge of law to someone in the family and court cases are normal thing in the family, it further shows that matter may go in the court of law. But Sun the eleventh lord from Venus in the second with the aspect of Mars and Jupiter shows a major success to the Father in law or to the husband for gaining power and status, it will be due to good luck of the wife, after your marriage in the 2nd or 5th year. If you will read care fully and will understand the problems of both the sides you can reduce the pain from both the sides. Regards, Inder Jit sahni - "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 8:22 PM [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > My birthdetails: > > Name: Lokesh > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > Time: 6:57 AM > Place : Ambala, India > Latitude: 30N55'00 > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > Name: Monica > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > Time: 6:13 PM > Place : Bhiwani, India > Latitude: 28N46'00 > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > Thank you > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear Cynthia, good question, the reason is that a technique that is really given by the rishis is eternal, it always works, but that does not mean that we always use it correctly. It is really one of the best techniques that seems to be handed down from Garga, Narada and others, but it is largely misussed. I use the Kutas almost exclusively for compatibility analyis and it is something that I best known for- compatibility readings. Those I have taught the proper method of using the Kutas have always ended up prefering the Kutas to other techniques because the best thing about them is that they show exaclty what the couple has to do to work out, and really work well for giving counsel. It is to much to write here how to use them properly, but I am teaching a class on it in LA in September, San Diego in October and videos, audios and video CD's will be available. I will also have a book out on it sometime next year. I used to do a lot of western stuff for compatibility, cause the kutas weren't cutting it, but than thanks to hard luck in love and good luck in teachers I learned how to use them effectively. The Kutas hold eternal principles of harmony between man and woman, but can be used for any relationships with a slight adjustment. It is funny isn't how often in these old things it always seems like it is the woman's fault? Until a careful look is taken and than I will always bet it is the mans fault and will come out ahead. Men who like to blame woman for thier failures are doing so becuase they themselves are failures. Many of those western techniques are great for discoverying many things about a relationship and some understanding can come that can help a couple, but the Kutas let us see exactly what the couple needs to actually DO, in addition to understanding what is happening. They do not though show karmic ties, etc. Which counseling really does not change much anyway, and if we can give them some council to get along more harmoniously, that is more important than looking at karmic ties, cause people get together cause the want to enjoy each other. Take Care, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:54 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Ernst > > Would you be able to simply describe why a couple in a modern culture would > want to rely upon the compatibility structure of the ancient? > > I've seen the charts of several couples who were matched and even as a > western only astrologer I could see the obvious difficulty. > > I do not claim to know much about this system but clients who have > experienced it seem to feel that the woman is always blamed for the problems > of the marriage. Is this a common part of it? > > Again, I apologize for my ignorance and would appreciate a better view than > what I have seen thus far. I assume that there is much to it, but > experience has shown me very little and so I have not gone future in study > about it. > > This question is open for all. > > c > > - > "Ernst" <ernst > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:07 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear Lokesh, > > I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras in > > which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. > It > > is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few cases > > of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives > you > > a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which > you > > need to do in person and not be e mail. > > > > Good Luck, > > Ernst Wilhelm > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > > - > > "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal > > <gjlist> > > Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM > > [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > > > > > Thank you > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear Cynthia, so they are working it out, I would guess that the pada of thier nakshatras is different? Also to keep in mind is that afflictions to compatibility are so much the worse depending upon the afflictions to the personalities horoscopes involved, especially to the woman's Moon and man's Sun. ALso, the gentleman who wrote had a significant Kuja Dosha imbalance, which though virtually never killing a spouse will lead to more conflict and difficulties. But first they need to work out thier Moons. Take Care, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:02 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Ernst > > I have two clients, husband and wife who share Bharani for the Moon. > > She is a therapist and they use therapy as a regular part of their lives > together. > > BTW, he is a obstetrician and children are a big part of their marriage. > (coincidence?) > > c > > - > "Ernst" <ernst > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:07 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear Lokesh, > > I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras in > > which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. > It > > is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few cases > > of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives > you > > a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which > you > > need to do in person and not be e mail. > > > > Good Luck, > > Ernst Wilhelm > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > > - > > "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal > > <gjlist> > > Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM > > [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please suggest. > > > > > > Thank you > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Lokesh, Both of you are matched well, since both of you have kujadosha. The reason for your marriage difficulty may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing Sade Sati. However, she will finish that period in about 8 months. Your marriage could improve at that time. I suggest that you separate for that long if the situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the situation and maybe she will understand. Regards, John R. --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal wrote: > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after > getting my > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits > and they all > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > points. > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to > break and wanted > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > My birthdetails: > > Name: Lokesh > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > Time: 6:57 AM > Place : Ambala, India > Latitude: 30N55'00 > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > Name: Monica > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > Time: 6:13 PM > Place : Bhiwani, India > Latitude: 28N46'00 > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because > of malefic > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > suggest. > > Thank you > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does not seem to cancel out. Braha says in one of his books that just because two people have kuja dosha does not mean that the effect is 'cancelled' out. Merely that they have a better chance of working out their conflicts and staying in the marriage. Also it is mentioned in his books (and in others that I have read) that usually two people with kuja dosha are not attracted to each other on a physical level immediately (if ever I guess) so rarely does a couple get together on their own and also have a kuja dosha in their respective charts. My partner and I have kuja dosha (mars in the 4th for me...Mars in the 12th for him...in vedic). We were instantly attracted to each other so that put that idea to rest at least for us. The partners that I had before that had no kuja dosha in their charts had more problems with women ...well...let's say like everyone else. Nothing is perfect in a relationship and since the divorce rate in America is well over 50% for both the kuja dosha people and the non kuja dosha people. Who can judge? [you] Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa works well? [me] It's worked for five years for myself and a better marriage then I've had prior to this with non kuja dosha partners <G>. [you] It would seem to me that this is indicative of a person who is willful, even egotistical and volatile. I've seen that it works better when one person is more laid back when the other is more temperamental. [me] Actually our temperaments are similar in that we 'take turns' and being counselors in the real world and having dealt with a lot of problem people...we have a rule to allow each other room to be who we are instead of who the partner wants us to be. Meaning that if one person is having a bad day...go ahead...rant and rave. The other partner is laid back and listens. The next day ...the reciprocal occurs. At the beginning of our relationship, my partner was very possessive and insecure however with time trust grew and conflict decreased to where I can't remember the last time we truly *argued*. As to kuja dosha indicating a person that is wilfull, egotistical and *volatile* ....may I ask who is NOT wilfull, egotistical and volatile depending on the circumstances of the moment and may I ask...what's wrong with that? I get really tired of people shaming or declaring boundaries for other people so long as we don't hurt another person or violate their rights...then we all have different natures. If not for 'will'...would we get anywhere in life even in the most mundane of ways such as paying the rent and putting food on the table? Ego has it's place too in life as well as being intense, emotional and volatile. Just like volcano's have their place <G>. We're all a part of the same landscape. I'd rather have variety then a generic mousy world. I have a philosophy since my last partner that 'like should marry like' meaning that I had two opposites before and it didn't work for me <vanilla and deceitful>. I prefer volatile, wilfull and egotistical because at least I know where I stand as I am *that way* too and am honest enough to admit to that human part of me. So we take turns with the 'laid back' bit with each other. More like a 'what's up?' attitude then laid back. One needs to fully relate to their partner in order to have a true sharing and blending of the spirit and if one can't 'relate' due to being very different by nature...conflicts can develop. Renee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear Ernst You made a big impression on a friend of mine from "D" Perhaps you could come here and elighten us. Just a thought.... c - "Ernst" <ernst <gjlist> Monday, July 29, 2002 1:30 AM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Cynthia, > good question, the reason is that a technique that is really given by the > rishis is eternal, it always works, but that does not mean that we always > use it correctly. It is really one of the best techniques that seems to be > handed down from Garga, Narada and others, but it is largely misussed. I use > the Kutas almost exclusively for compatibility analyis and it is something > that I best known for- compatibility readings. Those I have taught the > proper method of using the Kutas have always ended up prefering the Kutas to > other techniques because the best thing about them is that they show exaclty > what the couple has to do to work out, and really work well for giving > counsel. It is to much to write here how to use them properly, but I am > teaching a class on it in LA in September, San Diego in October and videos, > audios and video CD's will be available. I will also have a book out on it > sometime next year. > > I used to do a lot of western stuff for compatibility, cause the kutas > weren't cutting it, but than thanks to hard luck in love and good luck in > teachers I learned how to use them effectively. The Kutas hold eternal > principles of harmony between man and woman, but can be used for any > relationships with a slight adjustment. > > It is funny isn't how often in these old things it always seems like it is > the woman's fault? Until a careful look is taken and than I will always bet > it is the mans fault and will come out ahead. Men who like to blame woman > for thier failures are doing so becuase they themselves are failures. > > Many of those western techniques are great for discoverying many things > about a relationship and some understanding can come that can help a couple, > but the Kutas let us see exactly what the couple needs to actually DO, in > addition to understanding what is happening. They do not though show karmic > ties, etc. Which counseling really does not change much anyway, and if we > can give them some council to get along more harmoniously, that is more > important than looking at karmic ties, cause people get together cause the > want to enjoy each other. > > Take Care, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > - > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:54 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear Ernst > > > > Would you be able to simply describe why a couple in a modern culture > would > > want to rely upon the compatibility structure of the ancient? > > > > I've seen the charts of several couples who were matched and even as a > > western only astrologer I could see the obvious difficulty. > > > > I do not claim to know much about this system but clients who have > > experienced it seem to feel that the woman is always blamed for the > problems > > of the marriage. Is this a common part of it? > > > > Again, I apologize for my ignorance and would appreciate a better view > than > > what I have seen thus far. I assume that there is much to it, but > > experience has shown me very little and so I have not gone future in study > > about it. > > > > This question is open for all. > > > > c > > > > - > > "Ernst" <ernst > > <gjlist> > > Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:07 PM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Dear Lokesh, > > > I have you both with Moon in Bharani, which is one of the nakshatras > in > > > which if both the Moon are placed it indicates a turbulent relationship. > > It > > > is only OK to match horosopce with the same Janma Nakshatra in a few > cases > > > of Nakshatras. The padas of the Moon are at least differnet which gives > > you > > > a fighting chance, but you will certainly need a lot of counceling which > > you > > > need to do in person and not be e mail. > > > > > > Good Luck, > > > Ernst Wilhelm > > > www.vedic astrology.net > > > > > > > > > - > > > "lokesh_aggarwal" <lokesh_aggarwal > > > <gjlist> > > > Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:52 AM > > > [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after getting my > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits and they all > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching points. > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to break and wanted > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because of malefic > > > > influence of Mars. 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear John et al Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa works well? It would seem to me that this is indicative of a person who is willful, even egotistical and volatile. I've seen that it works better when one person is more laid back when the other is more temperamental. I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does not seem to cancel out. It does seem to help when both people are energetic, Mars but isn't it helpful when one is more easy going? Just stimulating the conversation pot. c - "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq <gjlist> Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Lokesh, > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you have > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage difficulty > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing Sade > Sati. However, she will finish that period in about 8 > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > situation and maybe she will understand. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > wrote: > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions after > > getting my > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted pandits > > and they all > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > points. > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is about to > > break and wanted > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > Name: Lokesh > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > Time: 6:57 AM > > Place : Ambala, India > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > Name: Monica > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > Time: 6:13 PM > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is because > > of malefic > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > > suggest. > > > > Thank you > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > http://health. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cynthia, It appears that all astrologers have different opinion about how to match couples for better marriages. In my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness in the marriage. Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and representative of relationships in general. As an aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a married man and had a family. Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing a good match are complicated to say the least. In my opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person involved may not be able to find that perfect match. It is probably best to disclose the method of comparing the charts to the client. Then, the astrologer can express his opinion based on the method used. The client can either agree or disagree on the opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, he has the option to take a chance on the marriage based on his own feelings. In other words, he can take life as it comes. Regards, John R. --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > Dear John et al > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > works well? It would seem > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > willful, even egotistical > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > one person is more laid > back when the other is more temperamental. > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > not seem to cancel out. > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > Mars but isn't it > helpful when one is more easy going? > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > c > > - > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > <gjlist> > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Lokesh, > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > have > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > difficulty > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > Sade > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > about 8 > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > after > > > getting my > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > pandits > > > and they all > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > points. > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > about to > > > break and wanted > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > because > > > of malefic > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > > > suggest. > > > > > > Thank you > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > Tat > > > Sat > > > : > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > http://health. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > > : > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear John But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how does that work in your experience? I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts (admittedly I get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they were very mature. c - "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq <gjlist> Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Cynthia, > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > in the marriage. > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > representative of relationships in general. As an > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > married man and had a family. > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > take life as it comes. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > Dear John et al > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > works well? It would seem > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > willful, even egotistical > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > one person is more laid > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > Mars but isn't it > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > c > > > > - > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > <gjlist> > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > have > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > difficulty > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > Sade > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > about 8 > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > after > > > > getting my > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > pandits > > > > and they all > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > points. > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > about to > > > > break and wanted > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > because > > > > of malefic > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? Please > > > > suggest. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Lokesh Aggarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > Tat > > > > Sat > > > > : > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > > http://health. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > http://health. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 This was not intended to be a personal analysis or interpretation but a discussion on the interpretation of cuja dosha. FOr my money, Mars in the 4th is not anyway near as tricky as it is in the 1st or 7th. I get really frustrated with clients being hurt by astrologers who use CD to slam the woman. It is such a recurring theme that I encourage clients with this placement not to go to a traditional vedic astrologer but to seek out a person with a more western or counseling technique. The whole point wat that the "cancel each other out" From your description is it safe to say that they do not? Is it also safe to say that maturity (another point I made) has helped to soften the willfulness? I never suggested that your ego had no place, I do not know why you took it that way it was a question regarding theory not a whole chart synthesis. I also do not see where this suggests a generic mousy world is the alternative. Again, the intent was to learn how astrologers see this in practice. c - LaRAZZZA (AT) aol (DOT) com gjlist Monday, July 29, 2002 8:28 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis In a message dated 7/29/02 4:45:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, c.a.novak (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net writes: I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does not seem to cancel out. Braha says in one of his books that just because two people have kuja dosha does not mean that the effect is 'cancelled' out. Merely that they have a better chance of working out their conflicts and staying in the marriage. Also it is mentioned in his books (and in others that I have read) that usually two people with kuja dosha are not attracted to each other on a physical level immediately (if ever I guess) so rarely does a couple get together on their own and also have a kuja dosha in their respective charts. My partner and I have kuja dosha (mars in the 4th for me...Mars in the 12th for him...in vedic). We were instantly attracted to each other so that put that idea to rest at least for us. The partners that I had before that had no kuja dosha in their charts had more problems with women ...well...let's say like everyone else. Nothing is perfect in a relationship and since the divorce rate in America is well over 50% for both the kuja dosha people and the non kuja dosha people. Who can judge? [you] Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa works well? [me] It's worked for five years for myself and a better marriage then I've had prior to this with non kuja dosha partners <G>. [you] It would seem to me that this is indicative of a person who is willful, even egotistical and volatile. I've seen that it works better when one person is more laid back when the other is more temperamental. [me] Actually our temperaments are similar in that we 'take turns' and being counselors in the real world and having dealt with a lot of problem people...we have a rule to allow each other room to be who we are instead of who the partner wants us to be. Meaning that if one person is having a bad day...go ahead...rant and rave. The other partner is laid back and listens. The next day ...the reciprocal occurs. At the beginning of our relationship, my partner was very possessive and insecure however with time trust grew and conflict decreased to where I can't remember the last time we truly *argued*. As to kuja dosha indicating a person that is wilfull, egotistical and *volatile* ...may I ask who is NOT wilfull, egotistical and volatile depending on the circumstances of the moment and may I ask...what's wrong with that? I get really tired of people shaming or declaring boundaries for other people so long as we don't hurt another person or violate their rights...then we all have different natures. If not for 'will'...would we get anywhere in life even in the most mundane of ways such as paying the rent and putting food on the table? Ego has it's place too in life as well as being intense, emotional and volatile. Just like volcano's have their place <G>. We're all a part of the same landscape. I'd rather have variety then a generic mousy world. I have a philosophy since my last partner that 'like should marry like' meaning that I had two opposites before and it didn't work for me <vanilla and deceitful>. I prefer volatile, wilfull and egotistical because at least I know where I stand as I am *that way* too and am honest enough to admit to that human part of me. So we take turns with the 'laid back' bit with each other. More like a 'what's up?' attitude then laid back. One needs to fully relate to their partner in order to have a true sharing and blending of the spirit and if one can't 'relate' due to being very different by nature...conflicts can develop. Renee Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Dear Cynthia, A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and cancellation due to match. The forces will work in the same way, the couple will feel the pinch of Mars dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be canceled in the process . It is like two missile first fired and then lost in the sky due to striking with each other . But what will happen if they wont strike with each other? inder jit sahni - "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak <gjlist> Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear John > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how does > that work in your experience? > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts (admittedly I > get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they were very > mature. > > c > > - > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > <gjlist> > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Cynthia, > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > > in the marriage. > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > > representative of relationships in general. As an > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > > married man and had a family. > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > > take life as it comes. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > > Dear John et al > > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > > works well? It would seem > > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > > willful, even egotistical > > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > > one person is more laid > > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > > Mars but isn't it > > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > > > c > > > > > > - > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > <gjlist> > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > > have > > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > > difficulty > > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > > Sade > > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > > about 8 > > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > > after > > > > > getting my > > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > > pandits > > > > > and they all > > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > > about to > > > > > break and wanted > > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > > because > > > > > of malefic > > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Inder, Just because mars occupies certain houses from lagna, moon and venus and thereby astrologers pronouncing Kuja Dosha does not make sense. For the spouse to be harmed, the Upapada, it;s lord and 2nd from Upapada needs to be afflicted. Likewise, mars aspecting the 3rd from jupiter could be fatal for the spouse (for female charts) as jupiter is the Sthira karaka for the spouse. Regards Hari - "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni <gjlist> Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:03 AM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Cynthia, > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and cancellation due to > match. > The forces will work in the same way, the couple will feel the pinch of Mars > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be canceled in the process .. > > It is like two missile first fired and then lost in the sky due to striking > with each other . > But what will happen if they wont strike with each other? > > inder jit sahni > - > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > <gjlist> > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear John > > > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how does > > that work in your experience? > > > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts (admittedly > I > > get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they were > very > > mature. > > > > c > > > > - > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > <gjlist> > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Cynthia, > > > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > > > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > > > in the marriage. > > > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > > > representative of relationships in general. As an > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > > > married man and had a family. > > > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > > > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > > > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > > > take life as it comes. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > > > Dear John et al > > > > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > > > works well? It would seem > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > > > willful, even egotistical > > > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > > > one person is more laid > > > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > > > Mars but isn't it > > > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > - > > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > > > have > > > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > > > difficulty > > > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > > > Sade > > > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > > > about 8 > > > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > > > after > > > > > > getting my > > > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > > > pandits > > > > > > and they all > > > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > > > about to > > > > > > break and wanted > > > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > > > because > > > > > > of malefic > > > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Dear Inder Jit Sahni I have found that where Mars is powerful it is essential to get plenty of physical exercise. When two Marsians <grins> are living together it is very helpful to do activities together. Some sort of sport or vigorous walking really helps move the tension out of the body and make life easier in general. I know that this sounds too simplistic, but it really seems to work. Mars is the planet of action and war. When there is too much sitting and too much mental rather than physical action there is a steady flow of internal dialogue. This dialogue is often fierce and argumentative. Youfind yourself trying to win a non existent argument! Then you spend time with your partner and you are ready for the fight that may not be in his or her mind. The ultimate manifestation of too little physical exercise for a powerful mars ...or Rahu for that matter...is depression. The depression originates in the internal struggles that lies between the two partners no matter where they go. So, the use of physical activity to the point of being tired on a regular basis is very helpful to move the anger out before it festers within. Once that internal arguing takes hold it is very difficult to see how the two people could ever get along. Bring in outsiders or family members to support either side and you have a real mess and two folks who may end up exhausts and frustrated emotionally with too little to give. The antidote is often a change in perspective. Each person must become aware of what is really happening and what they have happening in their thoughts. A thought form is not "truth" simply because you think it. I've had coffee this morning so I'm rambling, but trying to help, honest, not trying to attack or accuse. I am guilty of this myself with mars and Mercury in the 5th <grins> Here's the trick, you are just one thought away from peace of mind at any time. The antidote to fear is faith. If you can find something to like about the partner and stop the internal arguing with him or her you can step outside of the struggle and may find solid ground to build upon. In the mean time get moving. cynthia - "Inder Jit Sahni" <inder_jit_sahni <gjlist> Monday, July 29, 2002 11:33 PM Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > Dear Cynthia, > A clean chart is always better than kuja dosha and cancellation due to > match. > The forces will work in the same way, the couple will feel the pinch of Mars > dosha and will adjust and thus this dosha will be canceled in the process .. > > It is like two missile first fired and then lost in the sky due to striking > with each other . > But what will happen if they wont strike with each other? > > inder jit sahni > - > "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak > <gjlist> > Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:24 AM > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > Dear John > > > > But have you found that 2 with cuja dosha can be compatible and how does > > that work in your experience? > > > > I thought it made sense in theory but when I saw client charts (admittedly > I > > get to see more than most folks) it was very difficult unless they were > very > > mature. > > > > c > > > > - > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > <gjlist> > > Monday, July 29, 2002 7:14 PM > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > Cynthia, > > > > > > It appears that all astrologers have different opinion > > > about how to match couples for better marriages. In > > > my opinion, the common denominator appears to be the > > > need to (1) recognize kujadosha and (2) quantify the > > > kutas or compatibility points to ensure the happiness > > > in the marriage. > > > > > > Pandit Parsai has written a concise book relating to > > > compatibility. His ideas appear to be fair and > > > representative of relationships in general. As an > > > aside, I tend to believe in his ideas since he was a > > > married man and had a family. > > > > > > Hart DeFouw and Swovoda have written an excellent book > > > on compatibility as well. The factors for recognizing > > > a good match are complicated to say the least. In my > > > opinion, if one follows all of rules, the person > > > involved may not be able to find that perfect match. > > > > > > It is probably best to disclose the method of > > > comparing the charts to the client. Then, the > > > astrologer can express his opinion based on the method > > > used. The client can either agree or disagree on the > > > opinion based on what he personally knows. As such, > > > he has the option to take a chance on the marriage > > > based on his own feelings. In other words, he can > > > take life as it comes. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- cynthia novak <c.a.novak wrote: > > > > Dear John et al > > > > > > > > Do you find in practice that two with Cuja dosa > > > > works well? It would seem > > > > to me that this is indicative of a person who is > > > > willful, even egotistical > > > > and volatile. I've seen that it works better when > > > > one person is more laid > > > > back when the other is more temperamental. > > > > > > > > I've seen clients who share angular Mars and it does > > > > not seem to cancel out. > > > > > > > > It does seem to help when both people are energetic, > > > > Mars but isn't it > > > > helpful when one is more easy going? > > > > > > > > Just stimulating the conversation pot. > > > > > > > > c > > > > > > > > - > > > > "John Rasonabe" <jr_esq > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM > > > > Re: [GJ] Marriage compatibilty analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lokesh, > > > > > > > > > > Both of you are matched well, since both of you > > > > have > > > > > kujadosha. The reason for your marriage > > > > difficulty > > > > > may be due to Monica's chart. She is undergoing > > > > Sade > > > > > Sati. However, she will finish that period in > > > > about 8 > > > > > months. Your marriage could improve at that time. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest that you separate for that long if the > > > > > situation becomes intolerable. Tell her about the > > > > > situation and maybe she will understand. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lokesh_aggarwal <lokesh_aggarwal > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Om Guruve Namah|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das Goravani, Inderjit Sahni and Others > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently got married as per Hindu traditions > > > > after > > > > > > getting my > > > > > > horoscope matched with a girl. we consulted > > > > pandits > > > > > > and they all > > > > > > suggested it as a good-match with 28 matching > > > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > > However just after 5 months, my marriage is > > > > about to > > > > > > break and wanted > > > > > > to seek your advice about the causes for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdetails: > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Lokesh > > > > > > Date of Birth: 15 December 1975 > > > > > > Time: 6:57 AM > > > > > > Place : Ambala, India > > > > > > Latitude: 30N55'00 > > > > > > Longitude: 76E57'00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Monica > > > > > > Date of Birth: 27 September 1980 > > > > > > Time: 6:13 PM > > > > > > Place : Bhiwani, India > > > > > > Latitude: 28N46'00 > > > > > > Longitude: 76E07'59 > > > > > > > > > > > > I consulted a pandit and the said that it is > > > > because > > > > > > of malefic > > > > > > influence of Mars. Is there some remedy? 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