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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

 

Dear Krsna,

Kali Yuga started as soon as Krishna died. Thats why May 3102 is considered the

start of Kali Yuga. The exact date escapes me, but i have it somewhere.

 

As for the grahas in Aries. Sanjay Rath has stated in the past that all the

grahas were conjoined at the begining of Aries, when Kali Yuga started.

 

Its said that Sri Buddha Avatara, left his body on the same month and tithi as

he entered it. i.e. Vaishak Purnima.

Actually Vaishak Purnima was the focus of many of his activities.

 

Sun would be in aries or taurus. If Taurus, then Moon would be debilitated in

Scorpio, hence i accept Aries as the placement of Sun. Hence Moon would be in

Libra during the full moon of Vaishak.

 

I drew a horoscope for my question, before we really got started in this

discussion, and it makes me suspect that Jupiter was in Cancer during his

birth.

 

As the birth was an easy one for his mother, powerful benefics should be placed

in and aspected the Lagna. Hence Jupiter or strong Moon should be placed in

Lagna.

 

I looked at some birthyears, and then did some correcting on the basis of Jupiters position.

 

I've attached the chart bellow. Its just an assumption and i haven't fully analysed it yet.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

Buhdda1

 

Natal Chart

 

April 2, -559Time: 11:00:00Time Zone: 5:35:00 (East of

GMT)Longitude: 83 E 45' 00"Latitude: 27 N 50' 00"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: PlavaLunar Month: VaisakhaTithi: Pournimasya (15.97%

left)Weekday: WednesdayNakshatra: Visakha (90.15% left)Yoga:

VyatipataKarana: BavaHora Lord: Sun

 

Sunrise: 5:50:53Sunset: 18:16:29Janma Ghatis: 12.8798

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

 

Lagna 19 Cn 11' 27.38" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -Sun 23

Ar 13' 49.05" Bharani 3 Ar Li MKMoon 21 Li 18' 48.45"

Visakha 1 Li Ar PiKMars 28 Le 39' 32.12" U.Pha. 1

Le Sg AKMercury 1 Ar 22' 42.13" Aswini 1 Ar Ar

DKJupiter 18 Cn 48' 15.03" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg PKVenus

25 Ta 30' 54.63" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le AmKSaturn 15 Ge 15'

48.18" Aardra 3 Ge Aq GKRahu 6 Aq 43' 28.59"

Satabhisham 1 Aq Sg BKKetu 6 Le 43' 28.59" Makha 3

Le Ge -Bhava Lagna 10 Cn 18' 08.41" Pushyami 3 Cn Li -Hora

Lagna 27 Vi 34' 51.50" Chitra 2 Vi Vi -Ghati Lagna 19 Ta 25'

00.77" Rohini 3 Ta Ge -Vighati Lagna 8 Le 35' 47.15" Makha

3 Le Ge -Sree Lagna 24 Le 39' 15.52" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc

-Dhooma 6 Vi 33' 49.05" U.Pha. 3 Vi Aq -Vyatipata 23

Li 26' 10.95" Visakha 2 Li Ta -Parivesha 23 Ar 26' 10.95"

Bharani 4 Ar Sc -Indra Chapa 6 Pi 33' 49.05" U.Bhaa. 1

Pi Le -Upaketu 23 Pi 13' 49.05" Revathi 2 Pi Cp

-Kaala 3 Vi 01' 43.93" U.Pha. 2 Vi Cp -Mrityu 14

Li 00' 54.43" Swathi 3 Li Aq -Artha Prahara 8 Ta 18' 50.58"

Krittika 4 Ta Pi -Yama Ghantaka 7 Ge 15' 34.78" Aardra 1

Ge Sg -Maandi 22 Cn 58' 15.83" Aasresha 2 Cn Cp

-Gulika 12 Cn 32' 16.90" Pushyami 3 Cn Li -Varnada Lagna 16

Cp 46' 18.87" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -V2 16 Pi 46' 18.87"

Revathi 1 Pi Sg -V3 16 Ta 46' 18.87" Rohini 3

Ta Ge -V4 16 Cn 46' 18.87" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -V5

16 Vi 46' 18.87" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -V6 16 Sc

46' 18.87" Jyeshtha 1 Sc Sg -V7 16 Cp 46' 18.87"

Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -V8 16 Pi 46' 18.87" Revathi 1

Pi Sg -V9 16 Ta 46' 18.87" Rohini 3 Ta Ge -V10

16 Cn 46' 18.87" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -V11 16 Vi

46' 18.87" Hastha 3 Vi Ge -

 

+--------------+| |Sun Mer |Ven

GL |Sat || | | | ||

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|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Rah |

|Asc Jup || | |Mnd Glk ||

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|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------|| | |Mar Ket ||

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| || | | || |

| ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||

| |Moo AL |HL || | |

| || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|+--------------+

+--------------+| |Moo Mer |

|Ket GL || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sat |

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| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Navamsa |-----------||Mnd | |Ven ||

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| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Asc Mar | |Sun

Glk |HL AL ||Jup Rah | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started

from Moon):

 

Jup Jup -561-09-04 Sat -559-10-22 Mer -556-05-05 Ket -554-08-11 Ven

-553-07-18 Sun -550-03-18 Moo -549-01-04 Mar -548-05-05 Rah -547-04-11

Sat Sat -545-09-04 Mer -542-09-07 Ket -539-05-17 Ven -538-06-26 Sun

-535-08-25 Moo -534-08-07 Mar -532-03-08 Rah -531-04-17 Jup -528-02-21

Mer Mer -526-09-04 Ket -523-01-30 Ven -522-01-28 Sun -520-11-27 Moo

-519-10-04 Mar -517-03-05 Rah -516-03-02 Jup -514-09-19 Sat -512-12-25

Ket Ket -509-09-04 Ven -508-01-31 Sun -507-04-01 Moo -507-08-07 Mar

-506-03-08 Rah -506-08-04 Jup -505-08-23 Sat -504-07-29 Mer -503-09-06

Ven Ven -502-09-04 Sun -498-01-04 Moo -497-01-04 Mar -496-09-04 Rah

-495-11-04 Jup -492-11-04 Sat -489-07-06 Mer -486-09-04 Ket -483-07-05

Sun Sun -482-09-04 Moo -482-12-23 Mar -481-06-24 Rah -481-10-29 Jup

-480-09-22 Sat -479-07-11 Mer -478-06-23 Ket -477-04-30 Ven -477-09-05

Moo Moo -476-09-04 Mar -475-07-05 Rah -474-02-03 Jup -473-08-05 Sat

-472-12-04 Mer -470-07-05 Ket -469-12-05 Ven -468-07-05 Sun -466-03-06

Mar Mar -466-09-04 Rah -465-01-31 Jup -464-02-19 Sat -463-01-25 Mer

-462-03-06 Ket -461-03-03 Ven -461-07-30 Sun -460-09-28 Moo -459-02-03

Rah Rah -459-09-04 Jup -456-05-17 Sat -454-10-11 Mer -451-08-17 Ket

-448-03-05 Ven -447-03-24 Sun -444-03-23 Moo -443-02-15 Mar -442-08-17

 

 

 

 

 

 

- "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

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Friday, July 05, 2002 12:42 PM

[GJ] DIVINE BIRTH

> Dear Visti,> > Jaya Jagannath!> > >Krishna was born in dwapara Chakra and died

in Kali chakra, after> >which the Kali Yuga started.. so maybe Buddha was born

before the Yuga he> >was to influence.> > Was there any gap between Krishna's

leaving the planet and the start of> this Kali Yuga? In Srimad-Bhagavatam it is

mentioned that technically the> Kali Yuga were to start 50 years before the

great Battle of Kuruksetra,> yet due to the presence of Krishna on Earth, it

started only after His> disappearance, which is 86 years later. This 86 years

we nicely see> reflected in the ayanamsa, which would change about 1°11'40" in

that time.> Hence the Lahiri had about 23°51'55" at the time of the Jup-Sat>

conjunction last 28 May 2000. 22°40' + 1°11'40". Another point that gave> me

faith in the correctness of Lahiri is that at the time of the> conjunction in

2000 Rahu was exactly at 3°20' in Cancer (mean nodes),> which is an important

point in the zodiac since it is also mentioned that> Satya Yuga starts when

Sun, Moon and Jupiter enter the nakshatra of Pusya> at the same time. So here

Rahu would indicate the start of the Krta Chakra> in 2000...> > Concerning

Buddha's birth, it would be 563 BC according to the general> opinion, but it

actually looks better with 503 BC regarding the account in> the Second Book of

Acts. Mary was born as Eunice at the time of Socrates,> who died in 399 BC,

while she was still a young girl, and not long married> yet. We can presume she

was about 30, and there were 13 years between her> life as Yashodara, the wife

of Siddharta Buddha and her birth as Eunice.> As Yashodara she lived up to a

good age, yet 503 to about 443 would be> about 60 years, so that looks

acceptable. Bhaktivinode Thakur writes in> his "Krsna-samhita" also that Buddha

was born around 500 BC. So that would> actually put him into the Kali chakra

indeed.> > >I don't question Parasara, hence i accept the calculations derived>

>therefrom. I believe Manu states that; 1 Kali Yuga is equal to; 1200> >years..

of the gods. This was accepted by Sri Yukteswar, and everyone> >else, except

Yukteswar considered these as years of us humans and not> >that of the gods.> >

Yes, I was mistaking the Chakras to be equal to years of the demigods.> However,

my calculations seemed to be correct using varshas instead of> years of the

demigods. But then the chakras indeed do not coincide. Then> the Kali Yuga must

have started either 4800 or 6000 years ago. I would go> for 6000, since in

Egyptian pyramids a calendar has been found starting> from 3999 BC till now.

And the Saptarishi connecting with each nakshatra> for 100 years could also

give one cycle of 2800 years if they connect to> Abhijit as well. Thus that

would make it 5600 for 2 such cycles and it> appears they now go into Chitra.>

> >Question was rather, whether to count Jup-Sat cojunctions, or to merely>

>count linear. Jup and Sat were said to be conjunct at 0 degrees of aries> >at

the begining of Kali Yuga, which was accepted as 3102 BC.> > Why should it be

exactly at 0 degrees Aries? I would propose we rather> have to look at the

exact degree of Rahu-Ketu, since they represent the> Kala Chakra. No, Jup-Sat

conjunctions will happen every 20 x 360 days, or> about 19.71 years. That makes

the cycle full every 59 years, thus every> new cycle of the 60 Hindu years will

have the Jup-Sat conjunction in> another year. 60 of these cycles comprise 3600

solar years, after which> the Jup-Sat conjunction falls in the same year again.

This is were the> years of the demigods and chakras will coincide again, 10

years of the> demigods and 3 cycles of krta-treta-dwapara-kali chakras, and

that's also> the basis for the bigger yugas.> > >I accept what Manu and

Parasara have taught, being that they are the> >exact source of this

knowledge.> > The rest of what I said seems to be correct. My concept only

needed some> polishing. Thank you very much for the article attached, it was

indeed> helpful for my understanding. I'll try to meditate a little more on how

to> see the start of Kali Yuga, e.g. what is the difference between the>

technically accepted start of Kali Yuga and the commonly accepted one> after

Krishna left the planet, and what the ayanamsa value of 22°40' could> be

standing for (about 1632 years). That means, where was the ayanamsa at> the

start of Kali Yuga? It looks quite close to 0 degrees Gemini if it was> 6000

years ago.> > >So if you agree, we're back to the first question; Which Chakra

was> >Buddha born, and which Samvatsara?> > I agree. The question about Chakra

and year of birth of Buddha I have> answered above already. What about date? Is

Buddha Purnima His birthday,> or may it be the date of His disappearance? You

said you have a possible> chart, does it match with the Buddha Purnima?> >

Yours,> Dhira Krsna dasa> > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om

Tat Sat> : gjlist->

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