Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------------------ Dear VAS, I found a chart of Krishnamurti in my archives, the birthtime given is 12:23 AM, which i support. Chart is attached under, i will give my observations. Lagna falls in Capricorn, and its lord; Saturn is retrogade in the 10th house, in Libra. Most would predict that the exaltation in libra-10th would give a tremendous windfall in a high-standing business occupation, but the retrogade gave the exact opposite results, and he must have renounced/avoided such a life. Dispositor of Saturn is Venus, who is placed in the 6th house with Jupiter and Mars, as well as the Arudha of the 3rd house. This shows his occupational activities, in discussion and writing. Unfortunately Rahu is in the 2nd from Lagna, this shows a family who questions the Paramparas (Jupiter), and hence his talks we also of the same nature, and very philosophical. If you note that Vacha Pada(A2) is also in Gemini with A3, hence it also shows the nature of his topics of talk, indicated by Jup, Mars and Ven. Lastly but not least, the Chara Atmakaraka should be analysed. Chara AK is Sun and is placed in Aries in exaltation. This shows the birth of a very influencial person, and as Sun lords the 8th house, it shows that this souls desire, will attempt to steer people into the realm of spirituality and occult. Sun is joined the Arudha Lagna, showing that indeed people who knew him must have percieved him as i've described above. Ketu is in trines to Sun and in Leo, forming Shiva Yoga, giving room for a very spiritual soul. Lets check Navamsa. Lagnamsa is placed in the 9th from Sun, showing his inner desire, and real nature of his birth, is to uphold dharma and follow the dharmic codes. We saw how this was experienced before in Rasi. Finally, 12th from AK-Sun has Ketu and Venus. His body maybe no more, but he is eternally merged into the supersoul. Best wishes, Visti. Krishnamurti, Jeddu Natal Chart May 12, 1895Time: 0:23:00Time Zone: 5:14:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 30' 00"Latitude: 13 N 33' 00"Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Year: ManmathaLunar Month: VaisakhaTithi: Krishna Tritiya (12.52% left)Weekday: SaturdayNakshatra: Moola (78.22% left)Yoga: SiddhaKarana: VishtiHora Lord: Venus Sunrise: 5:35:24Sunset: 18:17:41Janma Ghatis: 46.9834 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 26 Cp 29' 16.11" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le -Sun 28 Ar 24' 23.31" Krittika 1 Ar Sg AKMoon 2 Sg 54' 14.77" Moola 1 Sg Ar DKMars 19 Ge 24' 40.19" Aardra 4 Ge Pi AmKMercury 6 Ta 29' 46.51" Krittika 3 Ta Aq PiKJupiter 12 Ge 48' 09.56" Aardra 2 Ge Cp BKVenus 6 Ge 02' 57.59" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc PKSaturn ® 10 Li 14' 53.30" Swathi 2 Li Cp MKRahu 26 Aq 31' 40.02" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta GKKetu 26 Le 31' 40.02" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - +--------------+|GL |Sun AL |Mer |Mar Jup || | | |Ven || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Rah | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Asc Mnd | |Ket || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Moo Glk |HL |SatR | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Mar GL |Moo AL |Rah | ||Mnd | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mer | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Jup SatR | |Asc ||HL | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sun Glk |Ven Ket | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Thanks for you analysis, Visti. Regarding your last comment - "Finally, 12th from AK-Sun has Ketu and Venus. His body maybe no more, but he is eternally merged into the supersoul." - Could you answer if in your experience(a) do you see this combination only rarely? (b) if you have, who else do you see having such a combination, especially but not restricted to, people who are currently alive? Also, you say that K's family questions the paramparas. Isn't this somewhat contradictory to the common understanding? I thought he was born in a very religious family that did not deviate from tradition. Although as a young boy, he was taken away from his family after he was discovered by Rev. Leadbeater and Annie Besant as having a very pure spiritual aura almost devoid of egotism. They wanted to prepare him for his future role. Would that be considered as his family, then? If so, would you consider Annie Besant and Rev. Leadbeater as being a family that questions the paramparas? Please elaborate. VAS gjlist, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ------------------------------ > Dear VAS, > I found a chart of Krishnamurti in my archives, the birthtime given is 12:23 AM, which i support. > > Chart is attached under, i will give my observations. > > Lagna falls in Capricorn, and its lord; Saturn is retrogade in the 10th house, in Libra. Most would predict that the exaltation in libra- 10th would give a tremendous windfall in a high-standing business occupation, but the retrogade gave the exact opposite results, and he must have renounced/avoided such a life. > > Dispositor of Saturn is Venus, who is placed in the 6th house with Jupiter and Mars, as well as the Arudha of the 3rd house. This shows his occupational activities, in discussion and writing. > > Unfortunately Rahu is in the 2nd from Lagna, this shows a family who questions the Paramparas (Jupiter), and hence his talks we also of the same nature, and very philosophical. > > If you note that Vacha Pada(A2) is also in Gemini with A3, hence it also shows the nature of his topics of talk, indicated by Jup, Mars and Ven. > > > Lastly but not least, the Chara Atmakaraka should be analysed. > Chara AK is Sun and is placed in Aries in exaltation. This shows the birth of a very influencial person, and as Sun lords the 8th house, it shows that this souls desire, will attempt to steer people into the realm of spirituality and occult. > > Sun is joined the Arudha Lagna, showing that indeed people who knew him must have percieved him as i've described above. Ketu is in trines to Sun and in Leo, forming Shiva Yoga, giving room for a very spiritual soul. Lets check Navamsa. > > Lagnamsa is placed in the 9th from Sun, showing his inner desire, and real nature of his birth, is to uphold dharma and follow the dharmic codes. We saw how this was experienced before in Rasi. > > Finally, 12th from AK-Sun has Ketu and Venus. His body maybe no more, but he is eternally merged into the supersoul. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > Krishnamurti, Jeddu > Natal Chart > > May 12, 1895 > Time: 0:23:00 > Time Zone: 5:14:00 (East of GMT) > Longitude: 78 E 30' 00" > Latitude: 13 N 33' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Year: Manmatha > Lunar Month: Vaisakha > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (12.52% left) > Weekday: Saturday > Nakshatra: Moola (78.22% left) > Yoga: Siddha > Karana: Vishti > Hora Lord: Venus > > Sunrise: 5:35:24 > Sunset: 18:17:41 > Janma Ghatis: 46.9834 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > Lagna 26 Cp 29' 16.11" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le - > Sun 28 Ar 24' 23.31" Krittika 1 Ar Sg AK > Moon 2 Sg 54' 14.77" Moola 1 Sg Ar DK > Mars 19 Ge 24' 40.19" Aardra 4 Ge Pi AmK > Mercury 6 Ta 29' 46.51" Krittika 3 Ta Aq PiK > Jupiter 12 Ge 48' 09.56" Aardra 2 Ge Cp BK > Venus 6 Ge 02' 57.59" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc PK > Saturn ® 10 Li 14' 53.30" Swathi 2 Li Cp MK > Rahu 26 Aq 31' 40.02" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta GK > Ketu 26 Le 31' 40.02" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > > +--------------+ > |GL |Sun AL |Mer |Mar Jup | > | | | |Ven | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Rah | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > |Asc Mnd | |Ket | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Moo Glk |HL |SatR | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > |Mar GL |Moo AL |Rah | | > |Mnd | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Mer | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Navamsa |-----------| > |Jup SatR | |Asc | > |HL | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Sun Glk |Ven Ket | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ------------------------------- Dear VAS, > Thanks for you analysis, Visti. Regarding your last comment - > "Finally, 12th from AK-Sun has Ketu and Venus. His body maybe no > more, but he is eternally merged into the supersoul." - Could you > answer if in your experience(a) do you see this combination only > rarely? (b) if you have, who else do you see having such a > combination, especially but not restricted to, people who are > currently alive? I see this in the charts of many spiritual people. Among which Srila Prabhuda is always on my lips. This is a combination for Moksha!! > Also, you say that K's family questions the paramparas. Isn't this > somewhat contradictory to the common understanding? I thought he was > born in a very religious family that did not deviate from tradition. > Although as a young boy, he was taken away from his family after he > was discovered by Rev. Leadbeater and Annie Besant as having a very > pure spiritual aura almost devoid of egotism. They wanted to prepare > him for his future role. Would that be considered as his family, > then? If so, would you consider Annie Besant and Rev. Leadbeater as > being a family that questions the paramparas? Please elaborate. Oh i just read the chart, but your right i wasn't conclussive. I admit i should have spend more time on Parivritti Dwaya Hora and Dwadasamsa divisions to have come up with such a remark. Rahu in 2nd also shows some bad habbits like smoking or drinking coffee. I know nothing about Krishnamurty's life, i just read the chart. Best wishes, Visti. > VAS > > gjlist, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > ------------------------------ > > Dear VAS, > > I found a chart of Krishnamurti in my archives, the birthtime given > is 12:23 AM, which i support. > > > > Chart is attached under, i will give my observations. > > > > Lagna falls in Capricorn, and its lord; Saturn is retrogade in the > 10th house, in Libra. Most would predict that the exaltation in libra- > 10th would give a tremendous windfall in a high-standing business > occupation, but the retrogade gave the exact opposite results, and he > must have renounced/avoided such a life. > > > > Dispositor of Saturn is Venus, who is placed in the 6th house with > Jupiter and Mars, as well as the Arudha of the 3rd house. This shows > his occupational activities, in discussion and writing. > > > > Unfortunately Rahu is in the 2nd from Lagna, this shows a family > who questions the Paramparas (Jupiter), and hence his talks we also > of the same nature, and very philosophical. > > > > If you note that Vacha Pada(A2) is also in Gemini with A3, hence it > also shows the nature of his topics of talk, indicated by Jup, Mars > and Ven. > > > > > > Lastly but not least, the Chara Atmakaraka should be analysed. > > Chara AK is Sun and is placed in Aries in exaltation. This shows > the birth of a very influencial person, and as Sun lords the 8th > house, it shows that this souls desire, will attempt to steer people > into the realm of spirituality and occult. > > > > Sun is joined the Arudha Lagna, showing that indeed people who knew > him must have percieved him as i've described above. Ketu is in > trines to Sun and in Leo, forming Shiva Yoga, giving room for a very > spiritual soul. Lets check Navamsa. > > > > Lagnamsa is placed in the 9th from Sun, showing his inner desire, > and real nature of his birth, is to uphold dharma and follow the > dharmic codes. We saw how this was experienced before in Rasi. > > > > Finally, 12th from AK-Sun has Ketu and Venus. His body maybe no > more, but he is eternally merged into the supersoul. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > Krishnamurti, Jeddu > > Natal Chart > > > > May 12, 1895 > > Time: 0:23:00 > > Time Zone: 5:14:00 (East of GMT) > > Longitude: 78 E 30' 00" > > Latitude: 13 N 33' 00" > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Lunar Year: Manmatha > > Lunar Month: Vaisakha > > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (12.52% left) > > Weekday: Saturday > > Nakshatra: Moola (78.22% left) > > Yoga: Siddha > > Karana: Vishti > > Hora Lord: Venus > > > > Sunrise: 5:35:24 > > Sunset: 18:17:41 > > Janma Ghatis: 46.9834 > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak > > > > Lagna 26 Cp 29' 16.11" Dhanishtha 1 Cp Le - > > Sun 28 Ar 24' 23.31" Krittika 1 Ar Sg AK > > Moon 2 Sg 54' 14.77" Moola 1 Sg Ar DK > > Mars 19 Ge 24' 40.19" Aardra 4 Ge Pi AmK > > Mercury 6 Ta 29' 46.51" Krittika 3 Ta Aq PiK > > Jupiter 12 Ge 48' 09.56" Aardra 2 Ge Cp BK > > Venus 6 Ge 02' 57.59" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc PK > > Saturn ® 10 Li 14' 53.30" Swathi 2 Li Cp MK > > Rahu 26 Aq 31' 40.02" Poo.Bhaa. 2 Aq Ta GK > > Ketu 26 Le 31' 40.02" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc - > > > > +--------------+ > > |GL |Sun AL |Mer |Mar Jup | > > | | | |Ven | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Rah | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > |Asc Mnd | |Ket | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Moo Glk |HL |SatR | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > +--------------+ > > |Mar GL |Moo AL |Rah | | > > |Mnd | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Mer | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Navamsa |-----------| > > |Jup SatR | |Asc | > > |HL | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Sun Glk |Ven Ket | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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