Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 <<they said that our north star moves in an uneven manner>> me According to the Vedas, the pole star is like the pivot holding the lower planetary systems in their circular dance. Above the Pole star there are the higher planetary systems We have to realise that every culture gives us a different concept of the universe according to their understanding. A materialistic culture like the present one, and based on petrol to run its engines and machinery, characteristic of the Iron age or Kali Yuga, is likely to generate greed and lies. Therefore a tamasic misconception is expected from it. Although our scientists and politicians may tell us a picture of the structure of the cosmos, it is not necessarily the right one, because we know well that they are not situated on the mode of goodness, from where they could achieve a right conception of things. >From the Bhagavad Gita (the Vedic Bible) we see how the 3 modes of nature; tamas (inertia, ignorance), rajas (passion, movement), and satva (goodness, kindness, peace), are manipulating the material energy, that even our belief system can be recognised as a product of those gunas, or modes of nature. See the following from the Bhagavad Gita As It Is, by Srila Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada. "TEXT 13 Chapter 7 tribhir guna-mayair bhavairebhih sarvam idam jagatmohitam nabhijanatimam ebhyah param avyayam WORD FOR WORD tribhih -- three; guna-mayaih -- consisting of the gunas; bhavaih -- by the states of being; ebhih -- all these; sarvam -- whole; idam -- this; jagat -- universe; mohitam -- deluded; na abhijanati -- does not know; mam -- Me; ebhyah -- above these; param -- the Supreme; avyayam -- inexhaustible. TRANSLATION Deluded by the three modes [goodness, passion and ignorance], the whole world does not know Me, who am above the modes and inexhaustible. >From chapter 14, texts 17-18-19 "TRANSLATION From the mode of goodness, real knowledge develops; from the mode of passion, greed develops; and from the mode of ignorance develop foolishness, madness and illusion. "TRANSLATION Those situated in the mode of goodness gradually go upward to the higher planets; those in the mode of passion live on the earthly planets; and those in the abominable mode of ignorance go down to the hellish worlds. "TRANSLATION When one properly sees that in all activities no other performer is at work than these modes of nature and he knows the Supreme Lord, who is transcendental to all these modes, he attains My spiritual nature. Although the 5th Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam try to describe to us about the structure of the universe, it is difficult to grasp the whole concept as it is, because our education is tamasic, and therefore we are conditioned to understand only tamasic products. But the Maha Purana says that below the Pole star there are the celestial planets, (the 7 stars, Sun, Moon, Saturn etc, the Earthly plane, the hellish planets and the Garbhodaka Ocean. Above the pole star there are the higher planetary systems called Maharloka, Janaloka, Tapoloka and Satvaloka where Lord Brahma has his planet Brahmaloka. The Mahapurana narrates as well how Krishna gave to Druva Maharaja, the position to live and manage from the Pole star. Among the original natives of now Mexico, the Pole star was represented with the face of a monkey. In 1972 I did visit the pyramid of Cholula, in Mexico, and I could see on a wall, the face of a monkey directed towards the north as if to indicate the Pole star. Best wishes Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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