Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Dear Visti, Thanks for your letter. >How about Buddha? he was born a king and wanted the exact opposite.. >Pravrayja Yoga. See the Avataras lives, and then the charts will begin >unfolding. Do you have more charts of the Avataras? Besides Krsna and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, I don't have any other charts. >Hence exalted planet does not mean we have a divine incarnation on our >hands. Yes, I remember there should be something like Devalokamsa in the chart. How to calculate that? I'd like to ask also, what makes you think that an avatara is soon to appear? Are there any references by sages or Vedic scriptures for an avatara to appear at this time? I'm curious. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----- Dear Krsna, Sorry i only have the same charts that you have, and also a presumed chart of Buddha, given by BV Raman. Actually i never said an Avatara was to appear anytime soon. I wasn't expecting one until we enter the last phase of this Yuga.. we've barely begun it, but thats how time is.. When one has planets in Devalokamsa it makes a person very giving, and charitable. As a result one goes out of ones way to give to others. More about the effects of grahas in various Amsa's can be learned from Sarvath Chintamani. Parasara states that a graha is in Devaloka-amsa, when the Graha occupies its Swakshetra, Moolatrikona or Ucche Sign, in 7 Vargas out of the Dasavarga scheme. The Dasa Varga scheme are the following Vargas; (1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 12, 16, 30 & 60). Parasara further states than an Avatara of Vishnu has 2 Raja Yoga causing grahas in Devalokamsa. I can grasp this to some extent thou, i'm not sure why they SHOULD cause Raja Yoga. You don't need to be a king to give with all your heart, you see. No doubt Sri Rama should have this Yoga, but whether Krishna or other alike avataras should have the same, i'm not sure.. There comes some other factors into play here, such as which Hora to use, and also a change in Trimsamsa should be saught, as the Trimsamsa popularly given by Parasara cannot have planets placed in neither Cancer or Leo, and it only comprises the same ammount as the Kauluka divisons do. But one thing is absolutely sure. The Avataras of Vishnu should have a strong Moon associated with Lagna. This is because Vishnu is the maintainer and hence also the sustainer of the world, ruled by the 2nd house. And who does a better job than the moon in protecting us, being that its moolatrikona and Exaltation is in the natural 2nd house; Taurus. And indeed what a compassionate person it produces.. let alone a divine being. I would really like to try find Buddhas horoscope. 1) It should have 4 Graha-Pravrayja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna, hence the reason the Sage Asita said that either this child would become a great king or a renunciate! 2) Furthermore Moon should offcourse have a strong placement in the lagna. 3) The Arudha Lagna should have a strong Mercury in Kendra to it as well, showing the perfect student of the world. 4) There are some other inferences like his mother dying shortly after his birth. 5) He had 1 child. 6) He was protected from the world, and all suffering was removed from his eyes, hence very strong Subhakartari Yogas would be present. 7) His Birthday is celebrated on Vaishak Poornima, and his birth was said to be in the Lumbini(Rummindei) area. now part of Nepal. Can you find the longitude and lattitude? i am unsuccesful at present. I'm willing to make a sincere attempt, will look into more info about his period of birth in the next couple of days.. can you find the long and latt of his birth? Best wishes, Visti. - "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS <gjlist> Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:17 PM [GJ] DIVINE BIRTH > Dear Visti, > > Thanks for your letter. > > >How about Buddha? he was born a king and wanted the exact opposite.. > >Pravrayja Yoga. See the Avataras lives, and then the charts will begin > >unfolding. > > Do you have more charts of the Avataras? Besides Krsna and Chaitanya > Mahaprabhu, I don't have any other charts. > > >Hence exalted planet does not mean we have a divine incarnation on our > >hands. > > Yes, I remember there should be something like Devalokamsa in the chart. > How to calculate that? > > I'd like to ask also, what makes you think that an avatara is soon to > appear? Are there any references by sages or Vedic scriptures for an > avatara to appear at this time? > > I'm curious. > > Yours, > Dhira Krsna dasa > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --- Correction: 2 grahas in devaloka-amsa and causing Raja Yoga is the dictum. 1 is rare, but 2 is even more rare. Best wishes, Visti. - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:43 AM Re: [GJ] DIVINE BIRTH > > > I have Jupiter in Devalokamsa in 9th/Sag. > > It is in a Raj Yoga. > > So when Parasara states the native must have two of these to be > considered a vishnu incarnation, he is saying something extremely rare. > > > I examine the varga distributions often for people, and good ones are rare. > > > To have the backing of so many vargas means all parts of life are > aligned in happiness with the natal placement of that planet/energy, > which shows an integral individual- integrity- honesty-truth. > > These are the qualities that flow from Devalokamsa because it shows that > harmony. There is no harmony without yoga, so if harmony is implied then > there is yoga. Two of these yogi like planets, also involved in Raj > Yogas themselves, would make an incarnation of Vishnu he is saying, and > this would be very rare. It could be calculated by software. > > However, real Raja Yogas are Lagna based, hence all Lagnas on all days > of the Moon's movement over time would have to be checked for the > presence of that yoga. Fair sized run. Would take a number of hours to > program and run. Could be done. > > > > > > -- > > > Das Goravani , President > > 2852 Willamette St, #353 > Eugene, Oregon, 97405 > USA > > Voice: > > or > > <> > > > Home of "Goravani Jyotish" > > Vedic Astrology Software , and more... > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 I have Jupiter in Devalokamsa in 9th/Sag. It is in a Raj Yoga. So when Parasara states the native must have two of these to be considered a vishnu incarnation, he is saying something extremely rare. I examine the varga distributions often for people, and good ones are rare. To have the backing of so many vargas means all parts of life are aligned in happiness with the natal placement of that planet/energy, which shows an integral individual- integrity- honesty-truth. These are the qualities that flow from Devalokamsa because it shows that harmony. There is no harmony without yoga, so if harmony is implied then there is yoga. Two of these yogi like planets, also involved in Raj Yogas themselves, would make an incarnation of Vishnu he is saying, and this would be very rare. It could be calculated by software. However, real Raja Yogas are Lagna based, hence all Lagnas on all days of the Moon's movement over time would have to be checked for the presence of that yoga. Fair sized run. Would take a number of hours to program and run. Could be done. -- Das Goravani , President 2852 Willamette St, #353 Eugene, Oregon, 97405 USA Voice: or <> Home of "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic Astrology Software , and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Dear Dhira krsna dasa, If you have the chart of jesus,I would like to see it. vivek. On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 Dhira Krsna BCS wrote : >Dear Visti, > > >But surely an avatara of Vishnu is yet to come. > >Best wishes, Visti. > >What about April 2003? Almost all planets get exalted at that >time... >Looks very similar to the chart of Jesus I have. > >Yours, >Dhira Krsna dasa > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > _______ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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