a few questions here

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Hiya, Das,

Celtic art, with it's knots, which are not reflective of reallty, show a

fixation on concepts rather than reality. This shows them ruled more by

aquarius than Capricorn.

Hmm. I would have thought those knots, wiith their repetition of technique and

stylization,, presented over and over in different ways, just as there can

still be infintite variation in Haiku with it's demand of a certain number of

lines and sylablles, could be seen as a very Virgo puzzle do be done over and

over. New ways to work the same rules set. But still the rule set is there,

rather than thrown out.

And I'm not sure where it fits into what you're saying, but nomadic cultures

tend to be proficient in these non-respresentation patterns. Also they don't

make much big stuff, concentrating on small things they can take with them,

like jewelry and carpets, utility objects like weapons.

The Islamic Arabs and Persians--many of whom were and still are nomadic are

quite fond and proficient in meandering abstract patterns, too.There's an art

theory that the more advanced a civilization, the more abstract it's art

becomes...But then you've said yourself, yo don't like Modern, abstract art

much...But you do enjoy the repetition and balance, and I would assume the

skill of the rendering, of Celtic work.

Come to think of it, the Celtic stuff is sooooo..anonymous--so few signed their

works--if any did d-- until they were Christain and monks in towerrs-- and

"bee-like" becasue of the busyness and intricacy, and the anonymoity--- that

could be seen as Virgo in some ways too. Also the precision of any any work

well executed, the craftmean ship of it is very Virgo. Lack of innovation over

all, lack of coming up with sojething totally new, but re-doing the old style

in a new pattern.

Think of it any way you want though.

You mentioned somewhere about the connection with Celtic world and Indian..at

lest i thinkit was you, rather than David Frawley this time..Who has a nive

article o it on his website at www.vedanet.com, I think it is. Yeah, my

favorite figure of the ancient pre-Roman Westen European world is the

Sheila-na-gig. She's also found in Indian ancient work...I haven't heard the

paisley connection. Cool. Abstraction of peacock's feather's is it?

Indeed, they opposed written language, and had none, leaving no written

record. That is certainly opposition to Virgo with books as one of it's

hallmarks. The invading Romans, the killer, death, on the other hand,

had Latin, the alphabet we still use today.

Yeah, the accounts are that the Druids memorized everything. A good way to keep

your mind sharp, but not so hot for posterity when the invaders take over your

civilization.And then the Irish monks still are seen as the defenders and

keepers of written language--and their Celtic art, which survived the

occupations-- during the dark ages of Europe. They were so far away, and so

secluded that they missed the fighting in their monasteries...That Satabhisk

influence of being cut off, you think, then? Or more Saturn/Shani-like in

austerity and leaving the world, like Shiva?

I was wondering, with the accounts written about infanticde via ritual

sacrifice being used as a form of god appeasment and birth control in Celtic

Ireland, , what is it you've read that says other wise? I would certainly say

there's a good chance the Romans were practicing a PR campaign on the Celts.

I'm curious, that's all. I'm Anglo-Irish/Native American myself. Anglo- Irish

being those who landed/invaded Ireland, of English ancestry, and in my case,

they proceeded to intermarry with the natives. Three hundred years later, part

of us are here, and in Australia, and still back in Ireland. We intermarried

with the Native Americans, and the Hawaiians for the last 300 years here.

...I was trying to find a book I had that had a title like "Women and The Celts"

in my library, but I can't seem to locate it..It may have flown out with

someone. or else b/c as I said somewhere in this letter , I'm not wearing my

contact lens yet this morning, I can't see well enough to find it among my

shelves...I'm bringing up this book b/c it was saying, that life for women

under the Celts wasn't so great either, over all. They were a patriachic

civilization, too. It was the one before the Celts in Ireland that was more

equal in outlook at less cilent. The ones who worshipped Macha rather than the

later Celts, who had themselves invaded Ireland. one of the two of them had

this intersting way of marrying one's cousin's to keep the money in the

family, and then they would have love affairs with whoever they chose, adn

conceive children as a result.. Monogamy wasn't the norm. And since no one knew

who fathered children--and they didn't care, being a matrilineal cicilization--

the brothers and materanl uncles would be the males of the families who helped

to raise the children in addition to the mothers, aunts and

grandmothers...Sounds like now in many cases in the west..At least it

strengthened the gene pool by diversity

..(And on the other hand, theres' in another part of the world, another enemy of

the Romans, Cleopatra, a product of 14 generations of brother sister marriages.

In her case, it made her brilliant rather than a mess. Not exactly recommended

breeding however. Not for people or dogs, the two having the greatest amount

of gene variation of anything on the planet. Nevermind..)

Virgo being the big enemy in my chart... that's a paraphrase of what you wrote.

I haven't put in my contacts yet this am, and I am having trouble finding the

exact quote as a result.

Well, uhm, how do you see all this precsion and detail orientation required in

your work, Das? The innovation wouldn't be very Virgo, but the having to

accumulate vast stores of knowledge to be used practically would be. All that

having to line everything up, be so concise and clear, having to follow the

rules of whatever programming language you use. Getting all those electronic

ducks lined up in the correct rows is pretty...Virgoish. You don't see it that

way?

I think I told you before jokingly I have intended to start a club called Virgos

Anonymous at one time. I was thinking the logo should be a circle with that

diagonal bar going through it and the word Virgo oriented on the inside of it,

covered by the bar, with the quotation of "Don't Worry, Be Happy" around the

outer edge of the circle. A humorous reminder for those of us who fret too

much...That, and wearing a big cowboy hat with a hatband made up entirely of

Guatamalean Worry Dolls kinda makes a point, too...for me, anyway. When the

constant Oklahoma wind doesn't blow it off. Berets are actually practical here,

except for the sunburned necks they can't prevent.

Pearl Harbor...

Okay, I've missed your point here, too. Would you mind giving some more detail?

I can see it as communication having gone wrong, to be sure, and that general

was an idiot to think all the planes should be togeather in one place--easy

target. Makes you wonder how he became general, doesn't it? I can't think of

the term for having hired one's relatives, but it makes me wonder if this was

the case when he got his commission in the first place, what he did was so

dumb.

Satabhishak Moon..I can't spell.

Yeah, well, I used to be able to spell, with my own Satabhishak Moon and all,

but with Merc Rx, sometimes I'm lacking in my proof reading skills. I get in a

BIG hurry. Plus not wearing the contacto-s this early isn't helpful either.

Sorry gang. And this program doesn't proof-read, either.

Best Wishes, and Namaste, to you all..

D.