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Dear Das

 

you

<<The fact that Vercingetorix surrendered on that date is incredibly

significant, because that moment marked the end of a major religion on Earth- a

9/27 kindof event>>

 

<<Druidism essentially ended on that date in 52 BC. That was a major loss to our

connection with many things. A huge oral tradition was lost.>>

 

me

In 1970 i read in a book of yoga about a Druid sacred place in the forest of Meudon, outside Paris.

 

In February of 1973, i did visit that place which was magical. I used to live

at about 40' walk from the place.

 

The Druid sanctuary had (i say had because i did go again there in 1992 and the

French government has piled up all the stones and cut down the sacred three.),

i will quote from the drawing as appearing on page 94 of the book "Yug, Yoga,

Yoguismo" by Dr. Serge Raynud de la Ferriere.

 

A Menhir is an standing stone pointing upwards.

A Dolmen is two menhirs supporting a horizontal stone.

 

The Druid site at Meudon had 8 elements:

 

To the north there was a huge menhir 3.5 metres high.

At 1 o'clock (imagine the place to be like a gigantic clock), there was the

biggest dolmen of all.

At 3 o'clock, there was an small menhir.

At 5 o'clock, there was a middle size dolmen.

At 6 o'clock, there was a small dolmen.

At 7 o'clock, there was a small dolmen.

At 9 o'clock, there was a huge Encina three (i do not know the name in English).

This was at the West of that circle.

 

Between the 7 o'clock dolmen and the three there were a line of small stones,

which surrounded the three and continued in a line toward the tallest menhir at

the North.

 

In the middle of that circle there was an small menhir, in which the Druid

priest used to seat down to grasp the energies emanating from the 7 elements of

that circle.

 

Mr Raynaud says that the circle was a dynamic magic operator.

 

By chance, i met at Meudon a man in his 30's, that told me that when he was very

young, once a year, people living around used to go and cut some branches of the

three. They considered those branches to be sacred and were the first branches

appearing in the Spring season.

 

Obviously, those circles were used by Druids for their Magical rites which we do

not know at present.

 

I have the feeling that those 7 points represented the 7 traditional planets.

 

In the past, astrology used to have a lot of magic (not illusion, but psychic

energies), very similar to those used by the Druids.

 

My believe is that Druism did not die in 52 BC, it just went underground, and

its essence was kept among the first Christians, and when they were prosecuted,

that essence was kept by the Cathars, which appeared in "history" in the 4th

Century to later on go underground as well, and came back to the front line

around the 12 century.

 

Then we see how the Vatican sent a Crusade against the Cathars, which were more

strong in the south of France.

 

Druism has a lot of magical knowledge which at present we cannot understand so

well due to our materialistic education.

 

It is my belief that the Druid beliefs were coming from India.

 

In the Srimad Bhagavatam, we read how at the beginning of this Kali yuga, which

started on 18 February 3,102 BC, some saints and yogis met to organize a fire

sacrifice to last for 1,000 years. The aim of that ceremony was to minimize

the evil influences of Kali Yuga.

 

Because according to the Vedas, time is cyclic, there has been other Kali yugas in the past.

 

According to Vedic chronology, the last Kali Yuga before this Kali Yuga, ran

between 4,323,102 BC and 3,891,102 BC.

 

Knowing by oral tradition that the effects of Kali Yuga are bad, those saints

and yogis (very likely that many of them were astrologers) decided to do

something to counteract those bad effects.

 

Vaisnavas and Hindus are familiar with fire ceremonies, and therefore they can

imagine how great that fire ceremony was.

 

My intuition tells me that for the magnitude of that ceremony, other strategic

geographical points were necessary. Earth has some electric-magnetic points

which can be operated for someone expert in knowing how.

 

We have to think in an organic ceremony, in which the whole Earth was taken into

consideration, and not only India.

 

Although there are Menhirs and Dolmens in many parts of the Earth, few can be

seen being built before Kali Yuga started, like those seen in the Islands of

Malta and Gozo. (I have seen them in 2000).

 

However, between 3,102 BC and 2,102 BC, when that fire ceremony was done, we can

see that many stone circles were built as if to indicate that they were part of

that ceremony.

 

We have Stonehenge in England as an example.

 

Regarding pyramids, very possible that they took a part of that ceremony as well.

 

To save energies, i am posting some interesting lines which i did post

previously to another group.

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NOTE. A friend did send me the following 8 pages long article on the Cathars.

I have to say that scholars are of a different kind according to their belief

system.

(I have taken away those 8 long pages)

 

Some scholars will have a narrow mind against the Cathars, while some other may

have a fanatical approach to them. Others may be “subjective” and give a

vision based on what evidence they have found.

 

Here in this note I am writing my own vision about the Cathars, which I have to

admit it is likely to be pro-Cathars because I do like them. I do request from

the reader to read the next article between lines because it contain some

misinformation and exaggerations.

 

However, my note may help to give you a better vision and see the implications.

 

It is likely that among the members of this list there are some that have been

reincarnated as Cathars in a previous life.

 

In the transmigration of the soul, the soul reincarnates in a suitable body

according to his/her intentions and karma. Therefore, to be a Cathar in the

past is a possibility open to everybody.

 

The Catharism is based on the first Christians, who based their beliefs in a

previous religion considered by some as “Pagan”.

 

Previously to Catharism we had a Celtic religion here in Europe. The Celtic

religion based their beliefs in the essence given by the Vedas. The Vedas were

given by Krishna to Lord Brahma as a code with 8 syllables, and Brahma expanded

that code and in time, the Vedas became 4, and supplemented by the 18 Puranas,

108 Upanishads, etc.

 

Vedas in Sanskrit means knowledge. The Vedas are given by God (Krishna) to

Brahma, the architect of this material universe, to give to teachers of

humanity. In the Vedas we have the information of how to deal with this

material world.

 

Because religion is born according to a set of beliefs that is why we find

different religions adapted to different human cultures.

 

At present, we have mainly 5 religions and their branches. They are

(chronologically), the Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Christians and Muslims. In the

eternity of time they will disappear and we are likely to see new religions been

born, but the essence of religion will be the same.

 

In a similar way, we had a Celtic religion in Europe and a different one in the

Americas, but the essence of them was the same.

 

That essence in every religion is to learn how to love and serve God, in that

process we learn all about God.

 

When Jesus Christ appeared some 2,000 years ago, people had a religion based on

nature. However, Jesus Christ gave a systematic approach and the base of a new

religion.

 

However, we can see 2 main branches among the first Christians. One branch is

found in Saint Paul and the other in Saint James (Jesus’ brother).

 

Paul “conquered Rome” and the teachings of James spread on the desert of Egypt

were his disciples first took shelter, across the North of Africa, Portugal and

West of Spain, Cornwall, Welsh, Ireland, Scotland and North of England.

 

It was until the Council of Withby (a beautiful beach and Port in Yorkshire in

England) in the 6th Century, where both branches met. There, it was decided

that the Paulists were going to take over the whole of Europe.

 

I have to say that unfortunately, when a great spiritual man disappears, more

often than none, men of a lesser capacity are left in charge of the

institution, and if they are careful enough or empowered, their inheritance can

become a curse, and they are likely to misunderstand, corrupt, distort or

exploit what they have received.

 

In this world we can see 2 main lines of thought in every religion and

institution or human cultural manifestation. Those 2 different lines can be

seen in the eternal fight between light and darkness, between good and bad.

 

As long as we are living in this material universe, we will see that duality.

Therefore, we can see that the Roman Empire was led by a group of people that

had an interest in taking control of the situation. Unfortunately, their

interest was on keeping the dark side of things to their advantage, or in other

words, they were the children of darkness.

 

The children of light want always to follow justice, peace, freedom and love.

The children of darkness hate all those good things and develop symptoms of

treachery, injustice, falsehood, exploitation and other nasty tendencies.

 

Mother Durga, the superintendent of this material nature, is in charge of giving

suitable bodies to the soul, to develop a tendency towards good or bad. We have

that freedom. However as long as we allow the dark tendencies to take over, the

longer we are going to take to go back home, back to Godhead.

 

Therefore, mother Durga has devised a system to control our tendencies and

freedom. We are here in this material universe like in a jail or a place to

correct our material desires.

 

In this way we encounter 6 main obstacles, which are called sadripus. They are:

kama (Lust), Krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (illusion), mada (pride,

madness), and matsarya (envy or jealousy).

 

All of us at a certain age or stage are prone to be attacked by those sadripus

according to our evolution.

 

In a general way, the children of darkness are most affected by those sadripus

and give a bad time to the children of light.

 

When the Roman Empire was crumbling down, those in control of it, had to change

horses and therefore, they took a disguise of being Christians because it was

convenient to them to do that. Externally, they survived as Christians but

internally they had the same exploitative tendencies of the Roman Empire.

 

In this way, those leaders made sure to control every institution in order to

control human society. That is way we can see their control in religion,

science, education, economy, military etc.

 

The essence among the first Christians was the knowledge of healing, levitating,

clairvoyance, clairaudience and medium ship. The “baddies” could not understand

those skills and therefore they tried to suppress it.

 

In this way we can see that the Cathar religion was born in the 4th century,

from the first Christians who were prosecuted by the Romans. In time the

Cathars went “underground” to appear more evident in the South of France in the

11,12 and 13th century.

 

However, the “baddies” in the Vatican did not like the religious competition

offered by the Cathars and decided to send them a “Crusade” to murder them.

They did so as history tell us.

 

Of course, because history has being manipulated, we have to read between lines

to find out the truth, which is clear enough to be known if we have the eyes to

see.

 

You are likely to have read about the Templars. They were basically an

institution to protect Christianity, and did follow many of the Cathar

principles and beliefs.

 

However, Pope Clement V associated with King Philip of France arrested most of

the Templars on Friday 13 October 1307 (that is way Friday 13 is considered

inauspicious). And under a heavy torture applied by the “Holy” Inquisition,

many Templars, “confessed” their crimes, and many of them were burned to death

for “those” crimes. I have to say that among the torture was to put fat on the

victim’s feet, and “roasted”, but many times the bone legs of the victims used

to fall out.

 

Needles to say that those “attacks” put an end to the Templars and to Catharism

externally, but they went underground again.

 

Because of that karma, we are likely to see a reaction of an equal proportion.

We are likely to see both tendencies again among us, one tendency will be to

reach the truth, the light, and the other tendency will be to reach the

darkness with evil deeds.

 

We can see at present the fight between light and darkness, and the predictions

say that light is going to win again soon.

 

Thank you for listening.

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Best wishes

Natabara Das