Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Dear Gee Sunn, Going by the birth details you have provided,the following is osho's horoscope--(are you sure that the details are right? is the source reliable?) DEC 11 1931 5.30 PM GADARWARA,INDIA. LAGNA 26-23-57 TAURUS SUN 25-34-52 SCORPIO MOON 22-29-37 SAGGITARIUS MARS 08-07-51 SAGGITARIUS MERCURY 13-29-02 SAGGITARIUS JUPITER®29-43-33 CANCER VENUS 19-16-29 SAGGITARIUS SATURN 28-33-23 SAGGITARIUS RAHU 09-04-42 PISCES KETU 09-04-42 VIRGO On Fri, 03 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : >Hi Vivek, > >Bhawan Rajneesh authored 650 books, one >of which is called > > 'Krishna the man and his philosophy' > >I liked it. > >By the way Rajneesh means Rajini + ish(Lord >of night), the Moon. > >And one of his closest devotee's name is >also Vivek. > >Hari Om >Hari Das > >---------- > >"Vivek " <keviv90 > >gjlist > >[GJ] Re: osho > >Thu, May 2, 2002, 9:44 AM > > > > > dear gee sunn,--I have read the book "Beyond >enlightenment".It > > contains lectures given by osho. > > In one lecture he tells about an astrologer whom he > > challenged.osho told the guy"astrology will not work with > > me".The astrologer said that there are no exceptions upon >which > > he challenged the astrologer asking him to predict one dozen > > things which he(osho) would be doing in the next one year and >said > > that he would deliberately > > do the opposite to prove astrology wrong. > > In the same book,in another lecture,he criticizes Iskcon > > devotees.---I will not like to repeat what he says,it is > > offending. > > I will have a look at the website you have suggested.also >thanks > > for supplying osho's birth details. > > -------best wishes,vivek. > > > > On Wed, 01 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > >>Hi Vivek, > >> > >>Have you read any of Osho's works? > >> > >>What the rumors say and what it is are > >>two different things. > >> > >>A while back Mony Singh featured two articles > >>of Osho's talks on astrology in his web site. > >> > >>They still can be accessed at; > >> > >>www.osho.com/...oken=27205691 > >> > >>He only ridiculed the quack astrologers. > >> > >>His birth datas are; > >> > >> Sri Bhagwan Rajneesh > >> Dec 11, 1931 > >> 5:30 pm > >> Gadawara, India > >> > >>Hari Om > >>Hari Das > >> > >>---------- > >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 > >> >gjlist > >> >Re: Re: [GJ] about MAYA > >> >Wed, May 1, 2002, 6:34 AM > >> > > >> > >> > Hi gee sun, > >> > I read both your messages.thanks for sending all that. > >> > I would however like to point out that Osho did not >believe > >>in > >> > astrology.He ridiculed it a number of times. > >> > He was also against all scriptures including the vedas >and > >>Bhagvad > >> > Gita.His philosophy was a kind of voidism or > >> > something like Buddhism. > >> > with regards,vivek. > >> > hi everyone---does anybody have osho's horoscope?it should >be > >>an > >> > intresting one to study. > >> > > >> > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > >> >>Hi Vivek, > >> >> > >> >>This is the second part of Osho's > >> >>Tantra Vision: The door to nirvana; > >> >> > >> >>Saraha says > >> >>By what does not affect one > >> >>How can one now be fettered? > >> >> > >> >>And the last sutra is of great beauty. > >> >>When you really come home and you see what is, > >> >>yu will not feel that you have become liberated. > >> >>On the contrary, you will feel 'How ridiculous > >> >>that i ever thought that i was not liberated.' > >> >>The difference is great. > >> >> > >> >>If, when you come home, when you come to > >> >>know what is, you start feeling very, very > >> >>enhanced and you are in a very great euphoria, > >> >>and you say 'Now i have become liberated, that > >> >>means you are not liberated. > >> >>That means you still think the bondage was real, > >> >>that means you are still in a dream. > >> >>Now in another dream: One dream was of bondage, > >> >>this other dream is of liberation- but another > >> >>dream again. > >> >> > >> >>Saraha says: When you really become liberated- > >> >>liberated from all right and wrong, liberated > >> >> from all good and bad- then you are not only > >> >>liberated from bondage but from liberation itself. > >> >>Then suddenly you start laughing. > >> >>'How ridiculous! The bondage cannot happen in the > >> >>first place, the bondage had never happened! > >> >>It was just a belief. I had believed in it, and > >> >>i had created it through my belief. > >> >>It was a dream; now the dream is over. > >> >> > >> >>That's why the last sentence ends on a question > >> >>mark. > >> >>Have you ever seen scripture ending on a > >> >>question mark? > >> >>This is the only one. > >> >>I have not come across any other. > >> >>Scriptures begin with a question mark and > >> >>end with an answer. > >> >>The introduction can be a question not the > >> >>epilogue. > >> >>But this beautiful song of Saraha ends on > >> >>a question mark. > >> >> > >> >>'If i am like a pig that covets > >> >>worldly mire > >> >>You must tell me what fault lies > >> >>in a stainless mind. > >> >>By what does not affect one > >> >>How can one now be fettered?' > >> >> > >> >>He does not declare that he is enlightened. > >> >>He does not declare that he is liberated. > >> >>He does not declare that he has come home. > >> >>He simply says: i laugh at the very idea i have > >> >>gone anywhere. I have never gone anywhere. > >> >>I have, always and always, been at my home. > >> >>I have always been here and now. > >> >>Only i was dreaming, so the dream created the > >> >>illusion that i had gone somewhere. > >> >>Now the dream has disappeared, and i am where > >> >>i have always been. > >> >> > >> >>That's why he says > >> >>How can one now be fettered? > >> >> > >> >>Nobody is there to be fettered; nothing is > >> >>there to fetter. The bondage has disappeared, > >> >>so has disappeared the man was in bondage. > >> >>When the world disappears, the ego disappears- > >> >>together; they are part of the same game. > >> >>Inside is the ego, outside is the world. > >> >>They cannot live apart; they are always together. > >> >>When one disappears, the other disappears > >> >>simultaneously. > >> >>Now the ego is not there, and the world is not > >> >>there. > >> >> > >> >>Saraha is propounding Buddha's great insight. > >> >>Buddha says: There is no substance and there > >> >>is no self. > >> >>Substance is not there; all is empty. > >> >>And the self is not inside you, there also it > >> >>is all empty. > >> >>To come to see this emptiness.. awareness floating > >> >>in emptiness- pure awareness, unbounded awareness.. > >> >> > >> >>This awareness is emptiness itself, or this > >> >>emptness is awareness itself. > >> >>This emptiness is luminous with awareness, > >> >>full of awareness. > >> >> > >> >>Tantra is a great insight into things as they > >> >>really are. > >> >>But remember, finally, it is not a philosophy, > >> >>it is an insight. > >> >>And if you want to go into it, you will have to > >> >>go, not through the mind, but without the mind. > >> >> > >> >>No mind is the door to Tantra. > >> >>Non-thinking is the way to Tantra. > >> >>Experiencing is the key to Tantra. > >> >> > >> >>Jai Osho! > >> >>Hari Das > >> >> > >> >>Does anybody want to comment on astrological > >> >>factors for making a Tantrika? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>---------- > >> >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 > >> >> >gjlist > >> >> >[GJ] about MAYA > >> >> >Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 5:01 AM > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > Dear list members, > >> >> > I have often wondered about >this.----- > >> >> > material energy is referred to as illusory energy and > >>MAYA > >> >>is > >> >> > defined as 'that which is not'.---Does this mean that >in > >>an > >> >> > absolute sense,matter does not exist? > >> >> > Let me illustrate my point with an example----let us >say > >> >> > a person dreams that a tiger is pouncing on him and >wakes > >>up > >> >>in > >> >> > fear.on waking up he realises that "it never was" but >at > >> >>that > >> >> > time(while dreaming),the whole thing seems REAL and >the > >>fear > >> >>also > >> >> > is real. > >> >> > Similarly,is it that when seen from the plane of >absolute > >> >> > reality or from a liberated state,all that we see in >the > >> >>material > >> >> > world is illusion or mental concoction. > >> >> > Also,is it that the cycle of repeated birth and death >that > >>a > >> >>soul > >> >> > goes through is a kind of hypnotic dream which is not > >>really > >> >> > happening? > >> >> > With best wishes, > >> >> > vivek. > >> >> > >_______ > >> >> > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs >in > >>India > >> >>or > >> >> > Abroad > >> >> > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >> >> > : > >> >>gjlist- > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >> >>: > >> >>gjlist- > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Your use of is subject to > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > _______ > >> > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in >India > >>or > >> > Abroad > >> > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >> > : > >>gjlist- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >>: > >>gjlist- > >> > >> > >> > >>Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______ > > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India >or > > Abroad > > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : >gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > _______ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Hi Vivek, Oops! Correction. His birth time is 5:13 pm. Sorry about that. With Lahiri ayamamsa; Lagna 22.16.10 Taurus Sun 25.34.09 Scorpio Moon 22.19.59 Sagi. Mars 8.7.20 Sagi. Mer 13.28.59 Sagi. Jup 29.43.33 Cancer Ven 19.15.36 Sagi. Sat 28.33.18 Sagi. Rahu 8.27.52 Pis. Ketu 8.27.52 Virgo Hari Om Hari Das ---------- >"Vivek " <keviv90 >gjlist >[GJ] osho's horoscope >Fri, May 3, 2002, 6:37 AM > > Dear Gee Sunn, > Going by the birth details you have provided,the > following is osho's horoscope--(are you sure > that the details are right? is the source reliable?) > DEC 11 1931 5.30 PM GADARWARA,INDIA. > > LAGNA 26-23-57 TAURUS > SUN 25-34-52 SCORPIO > MOON 22-29-37 SAGGITARIUS > MARS 08-07-51 SAGGITARIUS > MERCURY 13-29-02 SAGGITARIUS > JUPITER®29-43-33 CANCER > VENUS 19-16-29 SAGGITARIUS > SATURN 28-33-23 SAGGITARIUS > RAHU 09-04-42 PISCES > KETU 09-04-42 VIRGO > > > On Fri, 03 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : >>Hi Vivek, >> >>Bhawan Rajneesh authored 650 books, one >>of which is called >> >> 'Krishna the man and his philosophy' >> >>I liked it. >> >>By the way Rajneesh means Rajini + ish(Lord >>of night), the Moon. >> >>And one of his closest devotee's name is >>also Vivek. >> >>Hari Om >>Hari Das >> >>---------- >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 >> >gjlist >> >[GJ] Re: osho >> >Thu, May 2, 2002, 9:44 AM >> > >> >> > dear gee sunn,--I have read the book "Beyond >>enlightenment".It >> > contains lectures given by osho. >> > In one lecture he tells about an astrologer whom he >> > challenged.osho told the guy"astrology will not work with >> > me".The astrologer said that there are no exceptions upon >>which >> > he challenged the astrologer asking him to predict one dozen >> > things which he(osho) would be doing in the next one year and >>said >> > that he would deliberately >> > do the opposite to prove astrology wrong. >> > In the same book,in another lecture,he criticizes Iskcon >> > devotees.---I will not like to repeat what he says,it is >> > offending. >> > I will have a look at the website you have suggested.also >>thanks >> > for supplying osho's birth details. >> > -------best wishes,vivek. >> > >> > On Wed, 01 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : >> >>Hi Vivek, >> >> >> >>Have you read any of Osho's works? >> >> >> >>What the rumors say and what it is are >> >>two different things. >> >> >> >>A while back Mony Singh featured two articles >> >>of Osho's talks on astrology in his web site. >> >> >> >>They still can be accessed at; >> >> >> >>www.osho.com/...oken=27205691 >> >> >> >>He only ridiculed the quack astrologers. >> >> >> >>His birth datas are; >> >> >> >> Sri Bhagwan Rajneesh >> >> Dec 11, 1931 >> >> 5:30 pm >> >> Gadawara, India >> >> >> >>Hari Om >> >>Hari Das >> >> >> >>---------- >> >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 >> >> >gjlist >> >> >Re: Re: [GJ] about MAYA >> >> >Wed, May 1, 2002, 6:34 AM >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Hi gee sun, >> >> > I read both your messages.thanks for sending all that. >> >> > I would however like to point out that Osho did not >>believe >> >>in >> >> > astrology.He ridiculed it a number of times. >> >> > He was also against all scriptures including the vedas >>and >> >>Bhagvad >> >> > Gita.His philosophy was a kind of voidism or >> >> > something like Buddhism. >> >> > with regards,vivek. >> >> > hi everyone---does anybody have osho's horoscope?it should >>be >> >>an >> >> > intresting one to study. >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : >> >> >>Hi Vivek, >> >> >> >> >> >>This is the second part of Osho's >> >> >>Tantra Vision: The door to nirvana; >> >> >> >> >> >>Saraha says >> >> >>By what does not affect one >> >> >>How can one now be fettered? >> >> >> >> >> >>And the last sutra is of great beauty. >> >> >>When you really come home and you see what is, >> >> >>yu will not feel that you have become liberated. >> >> >>On the contrary, you will feel 'How ridiculous >> >> >>that i ever thought that i was not liberated.' >> >> >>The difference is great. >> >> >> >> >> >>If, when you come home, when you come to >> >> >>know what is, you start feeling very, very >> >> >>enhanced and you are in a very great euphoria, >> >> >>and you say 'Now i have become liberated, that >> >> >>means you are not liberated. >> >> >>That means you still think the bondage was real, >> >> >>that means you are still in a dream. >> >> >>Now in another dream: One dream was of bondage, >> >> >>this other dream is of liberation- but another >> >> >>dream again. >> >> >> >> >> >>Saraha says: When you really become liberated- >> >> >>liberated from all right and wrong, liberated >> >> >> from all good and bad- then you are not only >> >> >>liberated from bondage but from liberation itself. >> >> >>Then suddenly you start laughing. >> >> >>'How ridiculous! The bondage cannot happen in the >> >> >>first place, the bondage had never happened! >> >> >>It was just a belief. I had believed in it, and >> >> >>i had created it through my belief. >> >> >>It was a dream; now the dream is over. >> >> >> >> >> >>That's why the last sentence ends on a question >> >> >>mark. >> >> >>Have you ever seen scripture ending on a >> >> >>question mark? >> >> >>This is the only one. >> >> >>I have not come across any other. >> >> >>Scriptures begin with a question mark and >> >> >>end with an answer. >> >> >>The introduction can be a question not the >> >> >>epilogue. >> >> >>But this beautiful song of Saraha ends on >> >> >>a question mark. >> >> >> >> >> >>'If i am like a pig that covets >> >> >>worldly mire >> >> >>You must tell me what fault lies >> >> >>in a stainless mind. >> >> >>By what does not affect one >> >> >>How can one now be fettered?' >> >> >> >> >> >>He does not declare that he is enlightened. >> >> >>He does not declare that he is liberated. >> >> >>He does not declare that he has come home. >> >> >>He simply says: i laugh at the very idea i have >> >> >>gone anywhere. I have never gone anywhere. >> >> >>I have, always and always, been at my home. >> >> >>I have always been here and now. >> >> >>Only i was dreaming, so the dream created the >> >> >>illusion that i had gone somewhere. >> >> >>Now the dream has disappeared, and i am where >> >> >>i have always been. >> >> >> >> >> >>That's why he says >> >> >>How can one now be fettered? >> >> >> >> >> >>Nobody is there to be fettered; nothing is >> >> >>there to fetter. The bondage has disappeared, >> >> >>so has disappeared the man was in bondage. >> >> >>When the world disappears, the ego disappears- >> >> >>together; they are part of the same game. >> >> >>Inside is the ego, outside is the world. >> >> >>They cannot live apart; they are always together. >> >> >>When one disappears, the other disappears >> >> >>simultaneously. >> >> >>Now the ego is not there, and the world is not >> >> >>there. >> >> >> >> >> >>Saraha is propounding Buddha's great insight. >> >> >>Buddha says: There is no substance and there >> >> >>is no self. >> >> >>Substance is not there; all is empty. >> >> >>And the self is not inside you, there also it >> >> >>is all empty. >> >> >>To come to see this emptiness.. awareness floating >> >> >>in emptiness- pure awareness, unbounded awareness.. >> >> >> >> >> >>This awareness is emptiness itself, or this >> >> >>emptness is awareness itself. >> >> >>This emptiness is luminous with awareness, >> >> >>full of awareness. >> >> >> >> >> >>Tantra is a great insight into things as they >> >> >>really are. >> >> >>But remember, finally, it is not a philosophy, >> >> >>it is an insight. >> >> >>And if you want to go into it, you will have to >> >> >>go, not through the mind, but without the mind. >> >> >> >> >> >>No mind is the door to Tantra. >> >> >>Non-thinking is the way to Tantra. >> >> >>Experiencing is the key to Tantra. >> >> >> >> >> >>Jai Osho! >> >> >>Hari Das >> >> >> >> >> >>Does anybody want to comment on astrological >> >> >>factors for making a Tantrika? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>---------- >> >> >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 >> >> >> >gjlist >> >> >> >[GJ] about MAYA >> >> >> >Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 5:01 AM >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear list members, >> >> >> > I have often wondered about >>this.----- >> >> >> > material energy is referred to as illusory energy and >> >>MAYA >> >> >>is >> >> >> > defined as 'that which is not'.---Does this mean that >>in >> >>an >> >> >> > absolute sense,matter does not exist? >> >> >> > Let me illustrate my point with an example----let us >>say >> >> >> > a person dreams that a tiger is pouncing on him and >>wakes >> >>up >> >> >>in >> >> >> > fear.on waking up he realises that "it never was" but >>at >> >> >>that >> >> >> > time(while dreaming),the whole thing seems REAL and >>the >> >>fear >> >> >>also >> >> >> > is real. >> >> >> > Similarly,is it that when seen from the plane of >>absolute >> >> >> > reality or from a liberated state,all that we see in >>the >> >> >>material >> >> >> > world is illusion or mental concoction. >> >> >> > Also,is it that the cycle of repeated birth and death >>that >> >>a >> >> >>soul >> >> >> > goes through is a kind of hypnotic dream which is not >> >>really >> >> >> > happening? >> >> >> > With best wishes, >> >> >> > vivek. >> >> >> > >>_______ >> >> >> > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs >>in >> >>India >> >> >>or >> >> >> > Abroad >> >> >> > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >> >> > : >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >> >>: >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > _______ >> >> > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in >>India >> >>or >> >> > Abroad >> >> > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >> > : >> >>gjlist- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >>: >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > _______ >> > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India >>or >> > Abroad >> > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> > : >>gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> > Your use of is subject to >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >>: >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> > > _______ > Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or > Abroad > http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Vivek, This chart appears correct. KS Charak, an author and jyotishi, has analyzed Osho's chart from a health perspective. Charak used the same lagna for Osho. Regards, John R. --- Vivek <keviv90 wrote: > Dear Gee Sunn, > Going by the birth details you have > provided,the > following is osho's horoscope--(are you sure > that the details are right? is the source reliable?) > DEC 11 1931 5.30 PM GADARWARA,INDIA. > > LAGNA 26-23-57 TAURUS > SUN 25-34-52 SCORPIO > MOON 22-29-37 SAGGITARIUS > MARS 08-07-51 SAGGITARIUS > MERCURY 13-29-02 SAGGITARIUS > JUPITER®29-43-33 CANCER > VENUS 19-16-29 SAGGITARIUS > SATURN 28-33-23 SAGGITARIUS > RAHU 09-04-42 PISCES > KETU 09-04-42 VIRGO > > > On Fri, 03 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > >Hi Vivek, > > > >Bhawan Rajneesh authored 650 books, one > >of which is called > > > > 'Krishna the man and his philosophy' > > > >I liked it. > > > >By the way Rajneesh means Rajini + ish(Lord > >of night), the Moon. > > > >And one of his closest devotee's name is > >also Vivek. > > > >Hari Om > >Hari Das > > > >---------- > > >"Vivek " <keviv90 > > >gjlist > > >[GJ] Re: osho > > >Thu, May 2, 2002, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > dear gee sunn,--I have read the book "Beyond > >enlightenment".It > > > contains lectures given by osho. > > > In one lecture he tells about an astrologer whom > he > > > challenged.osho told the guy"astrology will not > work with > > > me".The astrologer said that there are no > exceptions upon > >which > > > he challenged the astrologer asking him to > predict one dozen > > > things which he(osho) would be doing in the next > one year and > >said > > > that he would deliberately > > > do the opposite to prove astrology wrong. > > > In the same book,in another lecture,he > criticizes Iskcon > > > devotees.---I will not like to repeat what he > says,it is > > > offending. > > > I will have a look at the website you have > suggested.also > >thanks > > > for supplying osho's birth details. > > > -------best wishes,vivek. > > > > > > On Wed, 01 May 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > > >>Hi Vivek, > > >> > > >>Have you read any of Osho's works? > > >> > > >>What the rumors say and what it is are > > >>two different things. > > >> > > >>A while back Mony Singh featured two articles > > >>of Osho's talks on astrology in his web site. > > >> > > >>They still can be accessed at; > > >> > > >>www.osho.com/...oken=27205691 > > >> > > >>He only ridiculed the quack astrologers. > > >> > > >>His birth datas are; > > >> > > >> Sri Bhagwan Rajneesh > > >> Dec 11, 1931 > > >> 5:30 pm > > >> Gadawara, India > > >> > > >>Hari Om > > >>Hari Das > > >> > > >>---------- > > >> >"Vivek " <keviv90 > > >> >gjlist > > >> >Re: Re: [GJ] about MAYA > > >> >Wed, May 1, 2002, 6:34 AM > > >> > > > >> > > >> > Hi gee sun, > > >> > I read both your messages.thanks for sending > all that. > > >> > I would however like to point out that Osho > did not > >believe > > >>in > > >> > astrology.He ridiculed it a number of times. > > >> > He was also against all scriptures including > the vedas > >and > > >>Bhagvad > > >> > Gita.His philosophy was a kind of voidism or > > >> > something like Buddhism. > > >> > with regards,vivek. > > >> > hi everyone---does anybody have osho's > horoscope?it should > >be > > >>an > > >> > intresting one to study. > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > > >> >>Hi Vivek, > > >> >> > > >> >>This is the second part of Osho's > > >> >>Tantra Vision: The door to nirvana; > > >> >> > > >> >>Saraha says > > >> >>By what does not affect one > > >> >>How can one now be fettered? > > >> >> > > >> >>And the last sutra is of great beauty. > > >> >>When you really come home and you see what > is, > > >> >>yu will not feel that you have become > liberated. > > >> >>On the contrary, you will feel 'How > ridiculous > > >> >>that i ever thought that i was not > liberated.' > > >> >>The difference is great. > > >> >> > > >> >>If, when you come home, when you come to > > >> >>know what is, you start feeling very, very > > >> >>enhanced and you are in a very great > euphoria, > > >> >>and you say 'Now i have become liberated, > that > > >> >>means you are not liberated. > > >> >>That means you still think the bondage was > real, > > >> >>that means you are still in a dream. > > >> >>Now in another dream: One dream was of > bondage, > > >> >>this other dream is of liberation- but > another > > >> >>dream again. > > >> >> > > >> >>Saraha says: When you really become > liberated- > > >> >>liberated from all right and wrong, liberated > > >> >> from all good and bad- then you are not only > > >> >>liberated from bondage but from liberation > itself. > > >> >>Then suddenly you start laughing. > > >> >>'How ridiculous! The bondage cannot happen in > the > > >> >>first place, the bondage had never happened! > > >> >>It was just a belief. I had believed in it, > and > > >> >>i had created it through my belief. > > >> >>It was a dream; now the dream is over. > > >> >> > > >> >>That's why the last sentence ends on a > question > > >> >>mark. > > >> >>Have you ever seen scripture ending on a > > >> >>question mark? > > >> >>This is the only one. > > >> >>I have not come across any other. > > >> >>Scriptures begin with a question mark and > > >> >>end with an answer. > > >> >>The introduction can be a question not the > > >> >>epilogue. > > >> >>But this beautiful song of Saraha ends on > > >> >>a question mark. > > >> >> > > >> >>'If i am like a pig that covets > > >> >>worldly mire > > >> >>You must tell me what fault lies > > >> >>in a stainless mind. > > >> >>By what does not affect one > > >> >>How can one now be fettered?' > > >> >> > === message truncated === Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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