LIVING DAY TO DAY

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Hi

 

<<well, what started as depression in me has progressed to wild mood swings.

some thinks it bi polar, but my shrink doesn't.>>

 

I often wonder if the extreme moods displayed by Lord Chaitanya could be

classified as bi polar by our present day "experts". Of course, we all know

that because He is the Supreme, His moods are transcendental, but nevertheless,

there are some similarities.

 

<<so, i've got something going on. when you're in that down space, it's so bad

you have no idea unless you've been there. being there means you have to have

a history of destroying things, or collapsing for hours or days in tears,

irroncileable grief and other emotions, it's not your average "being down".

not at all. it's powerful enough to warrant medications.>>

Well i have to say that such displays have been the nearest i have seen to those

displays read about Lord Chaitanya's moods, except that He was suffering from

separation from Krishna.

Regarding by "being there", I think that all of us in this list have been there,

either in this life or in previous ones. The suffering of separation is the

same in all, whatever that could be, separation from mother, father, spouse,

children, friends, limbs, etc.

 

The agony of separation is difficult to control, unless we are robots or we do

not have a heart. The degree of control varies from person to person,

according to our spiritual advancement. But even in great spiritual masters,

we can detect the suffering of separation.

 

I do not know what is in the separation that makes us snap. I myself may be

stable at present but who knows what emotional test is ahead of me. The test

may come and i may snap or i may control it, who knows?

 

As astrologers, we encounter with many cases of people suffering from all kind

of separation. Although we are suppose to be neutral, nevertheless we are

affected in different degrees. Then we advise according to our best of

abilities.

Medications are helpful but we should try to avoid them once that we do not need

them. Any external "help" may be positive for a while, but all have unpleasant

reactions. Most of those "helps" are tamasic in nature, and therefore they all

have the tendency to pull us down in either the short or long term.

 

In our pure position, the soul is in a satvic position, willing to go higher in

search for God, in search for Krishna. However, due to the interaction with

this material body in what we call reincarnation, the soul becomes prone to be

attacked by the sadripus (to newcomers that have missed those relevant postings

on sadripus, they are the basic ingredients of the material nature, which pull

the soul down to a tamasic level, a level of ignorance, were the soul believes

to be the material body in which the soul is placed).

 

If it is anger that we have to sort out, we are given the chance to reincarnate

in a body destined to become easily in anger. Therefore, anger has to be

tamed by that soul, until the soul realises that such a temptation has to be

put under control.

 

Maya devi is a beautiful mother. She is in charge of tempting the soul into

illusion. But i do not see it as a chastisement but as a correction. The

highest illusions of all according to the Vedas, is to believe that we are God.

How many Napoleons are wandering in mental asylums? Many. And how many humans

are wandering in society believing to be God?....Too many.

 

Maya devi gives the suitable body which have the 9th house, the house

representing the belief system, upside down, and that is how we get a belief

system that lead us into illusions of being God. There is only One God, and

according to the Vedas, although He has thousands of names, He is the Supreme

Personality of Godhead.

 

My spiritual master said one day, "do not worry about seva, about spiritual

service, because seva will be always available to everyone. But search for

that person that can give you Krishna, God."

 

A mother in general, is proud when one of her children wants to study in

superior levels. He/she has the qualities and intentions to go higher in

knowledge. Any mother is proud of that, and she will sacrifice herself to make

sure that her child will get what he/she wants, because it is worthwhile.

 

In a similar case, Maya devi, becomes proud when she see that one of her

children want to go higher in search of Krishna.

 

Maya devi knows Krishna very well, and she knows that her child has chosen the

right path. Therefore, she will sacrifice herself to help her child to further

his/her steps in finding Krishna, in finding God.

 

Once our mother Maya Devi detects our pure and honest intentions within our

heart, she will help us out, and the sadripus will not affect us any longer.

 

With her permission, with her encouragement, with her help and the help of other

demigods, we will go higher into the spiritual realm.

 

Any false pretence will be chastised with the illusion given by our imperfect belief system.

 

<<i have few people i know closely, few people physically in my life as friends

nearby etc. so when I get in total fear, i sometimes reach out to this list,

which is a mistake, admittedly>>

 

That is why friends are for. You would be surprised to find that you have many

sincere friends in this list. They may be miles away physically, but they are

near to your heart.

 

And i do not think that this GJ list is a mistake, all the opposite, i think

that this list has given the chance to attract and gather souls that are

searching for a higher realm where love and affection is predominant.

 

We are astrologers because first of all, we want to find more about ourselves,

and secondly, about others. But in essence, we want to help us and others to

find real happiness.

 

<<either way, it's a good piece of evidence as the to horrors the human mind is

capable of swinging between quickly, with what you're reading now.>>

 

Emotional shocks often lead us to similar changes, we cannot help it, we are just humans.

 

When we read or detect in others about those symptoms, we somehow identify our

emotions of the past, present or future, and know well what is hell.

 

<<this is the reality i face, and i'm facing it. it's definitely a dis-ease,

but it's source is not clear to anyone>>

 

In a way, just by being here it is a clear evidence that we all are facing a

similar disease. And it's source is not clear to anyone. Somehow we have come

here to this material plane, but we should try to go to the spiritual plane,

where there is not suffering, ignorance or illusions, where there is only Sat

(eternity), Cit (full consciousness) and Ananda (bliss).

 

<<you really should not, dear list, take these things seriously and respond to

them, as some of you did, as if I meant them literally.>>

 

We do take them as seriously as we as astrologers do with every case coming to

us. And if we respond to it, it is because there is an opportunity to show

some help, not only to you, but to whoever identifies with your displayed

symptoms, including myself in the past, present or future.

 

It may be easy to preach, but very difficult to navigate in troublesome waters.

 

<<in fact, i can't remember what I write, and i sure can't defend it the next

day when i'm me again. so, just delete it after scanning it for real cries for

help, which i know, how can you tell>>

 

Under stress, everyone does things which may be erased from the memory soon

after it happens. We know well those effects, and it is nice to hear from

someone that can explain them afterwards. Sometimes, we cannot explain them.

 

<<the other night, a couple friends got a more focused mailing i made to close

friends and family, and they came to my side. this helped tremendously>>

 

Good to know that. As a foreign in this country, one day of crisis, i could not

find much help. However, i rang to a sanyassa, and unexpectedly, he and another

devotee drove 250 miles in a ban, to give me their association for few days

and help me to remove my belongings to my own flat. It is good to know that

friends are always ready to make sacrifices and help as much as they can.

 

<<i had already written to the list, so it was too late>>

 

Not at all late, thank you very much for sharing with us your emotional crisis.

 

<<after they came, I wishede i had not. but while having a panic attack, you

lose all sense of reason, and definitely patience, there is no patience in my

version of panic attack land. It's very immediate and full of, well, panic>>

 

I know that very well, although i do not have it too often, those dark days have

come into my life, uninvited and unwanted, but nevertheless, we have to learn

how to cope with them.

 

<<I'm very sorry this exists in me, or on earth at all.>>

 

We are all sorry as well to have it. That is one of the reasons why we want to

get out of here throw the main door, because it is another illusion to try to

get out of here throw the back door like some friends of mine have tried. The

back door only leads to extra time in this miserable plane.

 

<<thanks for tolerating this manifestation of my own problems into your lives,

and don't respond on the list to what I write, because you're really then

responding only to some fearful mind that doesn't actually exist as a person-

it's my mind fear garbage only.>>It is our duty as astrologers to respond to

the problems of those in want of help.

 

<<and believe me, i'd love to finish gj3. nobody more than i>>

 

Nice to hear of that, and do not hurry, if we have waited 30 years for that

astrology programme, we can well wait few more months for it.

 

<<i'd love to be always rational, those fits are not>>

 

Just tell me who is rational? By being here on this material plane, we all

must be irrational.

 

<<rationally trying to solve them is futile, the professionals don't try to, so

you shouldn't either>>

 

The intention is what is counted.

 

<<the best thing I can do is continue to learn my triggers and avoid them, thats

the bottom line for me, as i don't want to go to the sure fire treatment level,

because it's also sure damaging and sure dulling>>

 

You know best, you are driving your own body.

 

<<gotta make this one work, and i will, i feel>>

 

We all should make our lessons work. That is why we are here, to pass the

tests. I do not want to come back to repeat them again because of failure.

 

Best wishes

Natabara Das