Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > To , send an email to: > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Dear Sonia Having got quite close to the correct answer let me explain my reasoning . The native begins in Ketu dasha but Ketu is badly placed in the 8th and conjunct Mars .Both are fiery planets .Next I had alook at the first house which rules childhood generally .It's Lord is very weak being in the 1st degree in Aries a fiery rasi .It is occupied by Jupiter the 6th and 9th Lord. I am of the opinion that one has to consider both Lordships and therefore cannot consider Jupiter exclusively benefic and malefic .Yes that makes things complex but that's how I find it . As 6th Lord Jupiter rules dangers from fire which tallies with the Ketu considerations . Next I had a look at Mercury the indicator of skin and found it debiliiatated .This suggested to me burns causing damage to the skin . However the 3rd house also rules early childhood development and having it's Lord debiliatated and running a bad dasha early has combined to produce mental retardation . I do not think Saturn has a big effect in the outcome. I saw it conjunct Rahu in the second and saw that it could not give relief .The exaltation of the 9th Lord is felt by the support given to her by her father .Venus is in the 8th and so also unable to relieve the bad start during it's dasha . This is a good way to learn astrology Hope this helps Nicholas - sonia tanganchi gjlist Friday, March 29, 2002 1:33 AM Re: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Hi Folks, First, a big thank you to all the very brave souls who responded to the quiz. Cynthia and Nicholas were spot on in relating the chart to the ‘heat’, ‘hot’, ‘burning’. Ilona talked about accidents which was quite rightly thought of as we often associate Ketu with accidents. Somebody asked me about the mother (sorry I must have deleted the mail, fingers too quick), was it Hellman or something like that but sorry, I don’t have the details of her mother as I have since lost contact with them. The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. I will give my 2 cents worth of analysis and would appreciate your inputs on the logic. My first guru taught us to think of Ketu as Mars and Rahu as Saturn. So Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti brought on the fever (Mars for fire) and Ketu is in the Nakshatra of Jupiter, the 6th lord signifying disease. All the astrological texts opine that Jupiter is auspicious for cancer lagnas. Why has it turned malefic here? Or did Jupiter guard her against death? Also, the sub-period at birth was Jupiter until 15/04/79 when the sub-period Saturn took over. Now, I think Saturn stands for neurological disorders hence the brain damage. What does Saturn being retrograde mean ? Saturn also aspects the lagna. Lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn and exalted Jupiter located in lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn. Does a functional malefic when exalted increases the harm to the house? Saturn and Mars also aspect the 11th house (6th from the 6th). Lagna lord, Moon is well placed in the 10th but is powerless as it is in the infant stage (0 degress 27 min) and it is also in the nakshatra of Ketu. What is interesting is that the parents never gave up on her especially the father. He is so devoted in caring for her – Sun in the 9th aspected by Jupiter. See, I am contradicting myself. I am not sure if one regards Jupiter, lord of 6th and 9th as malefic or benefic. Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > To , send an email to: > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Dear Sonia, I haven't seen this discussion untill now, and entered data into the computer: There are some combinations noticable at first sight; 1. Chandra is lagnesh and is placed in Mesha(head/pitta disorders) in MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and further in rashi sandhi. Grahas in Maha sandhi are terribly weak and in particular damage the health. 2. Mangal is dispositor of Lagnesh and is placed in Dushatna or 8th house of chronic illness. Whenever Dasha of Dispositor of Lagna lord starts(which is placed in Dusthana) the health would suffer.. This is one of the basic rules.. do check in your database. To make things worse, Mangal is atmakarak which gives terrible suffuring starting right from Ketu dasha, ketu being in conjunction with mangal and ketu being akin to mangal. 3. Shukra is badhakesh and has joined mangal and ketu in 8th house of illness in fixed sign. Shukra is further in fixed navamsa together with surya (head/pitta related problems). So the problem is almost unsurmountable.. 4. There is Kala Sarpa Yoga broken by some grahas, which are unfortunately badhakesh and atmakarak so there is no escape from the Yoga.. There also some other points, but these basic at first glance graha pattern indicates the problem clearly One should think deeply what remedial measures to take... I will let you know when I ponder the problem more deeply Best wishes, Zoran Nicholas wrote: Dear SoniaHaving got quite close to the correct answer let me explain my reasoning .The native begins in Ketu dasha but Ketu is badly placed in the 8th and conjunct Mars .Both are fiery planets .Next I had alook at the first house which rules childhood generally .It's Lord is very weak being in the 1st degree in Aries a fiery rasi .It is occupied by Jupiter the 6th and 9th Lord. I am of the opinion that one has to consider both Lordships and therefore cannot consider Jupiter exclusively benefic and malefic .Yes that makes things complex but that's how I find it . As 6th Lord Jupiter rules dangers from fire which tallies with the Ketu considerations . Next I had a look at Mercury the indicator of skin and found it debiliiatated .This suggested to me burns causing damage to the skin . However the 3rd house also rules early childhood development and having it's Lord debiliatated and running a bad dasha early has combined to produce mental retardation .. I do not think Saturn has a big effect in the outcome. I saw it conjunct Rahu in the second and saw that it could not give relief .The exaltation of the 9th Lord is felt by the support given to her by her father .Venus is in the 8th and so also unable to relieve the bad start during it's dasha . This is a good way to learn astrologyHope this helpsNicholas - sonia tanganchi gjlistSent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:33 AMRe: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Hi Folks, First, a big thank you to all the very brave souls who responded to the quiz. Cynthia and Nicholas were spot on in relating the chart to the ‘heat’, ‘hot’, ‘burning’. Ilona talked about accidents which was quite rightly thought of as we often associate Ketu with accidents. Somebody asked me about the mother (sorry I must have deleted the mail, fingers too quick), was it Hellman or something like that but sorry, I don’t have the details of her mother as I have since lost contact with them. The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. I will give my 2 cents worth of analysis and would appreciate your inputs on the logic. My first guru taught us to think of Ketu as Mars and Rahu as Saturn. So Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti brought on the fever (Mars for fire) and Ketu is in the Nakshatra of Jupiter, the 6th lord signifying disease. All the astrological texts opine that Jupiter is auspicious for cancer lagnas. Why has it turned malefic here? Or did Jupiter guard her against death? Also, the sub-period at birth was Jupiter until 15/04/79 when the sub-period Saturn took over. Now, I think Saturn stands for neurological disorders hence the brain damage. What does Saturn being retrograde mean ? Saturn also aspects the lagna. Lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn and exalted Jupiter located in lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn. Does a functional malefic when exalted increases the harm to the house? Saturn and Mars also aspect the 11th house (6th from the 6th). Lagna lord, Moon is well placed in the 10th but is powerless as it is in the infant stage (0 degress 27 min) and it is also in the nakshatra of Ketu. What is interesting is that the parents never gave up on her especially the father. He is so devoted in caring for her – Sun in the 9th aspected by Jupiter. See, I am contradicting myself. I am not sure if one regards Jupiter, lord of 6th and 9th as malefic or benefic. Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 I certainly am learning from yours and other inputs. Now that you talk about Mercury and the skin, she has a lot of birthmarks all over the body - big patches of redness. I was thinking a lot about Saturn as it signifies nerve disorders and as the 1st house was involved which stood for the head/brain/body, hence the conclusion of brain damage and paralysis. Thanks Nicholas <jyotish108 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sonia Having got quite close to the correct answer let me explain my reasoning . The native begins in Ketu dasha but Ketu is badly placed in the 8th and conjunct Mars .Both are fiery planets .Next I had alook at the first house which rules childhood generally .It's Lord is very weak being in the 1st degree in Aries a fiery rasi .It is occupied by Jupiter the 6th and 9th Lord. I am of the opinion that one has to consider both Lordships and therefore cannot consider Jupiter exclusively benefic and malefic .Yes that makes things complex but that's how I find it . As 6th Lord Jupiter rules dangers from fire which tallies with the Ketu considerations . Next I had a look at Mercury the indicator of skin and found it debiliiatated .This suggested to me burns causing damage to the skin . However the 3rd house also rules early childhood development and having it's Lord debiliatated and running a bad dasha early has combined to produce mental retardation . I do not think Saturn has a big effect in the outcome. I saw it conjunct Rahu in the second and saw that it could not give relief .The exaltation of the 9th Lord is felt by the support given to her by her father .Venus is in the 8th and so also unable to relieve the bad start during it's dasha . This is a good way to learn astrology Hope this helps Nicholas - sonia tanganchi gjlist Friday, March 29, 2002 1:33 AM Re: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Hi Folks, First, a big thank you to all the very brave souls who responded to the quiz. Cynthia and Nicholas were spot on in relating the chart to the ‘heat’, ‘hot’, ‘burning’. Ilona talked about accidents which was quite rightly thought of as we often associate Ketu with accidents. Somebody asked me about the mother (sorry I must have deleted the mail, fingers too quick), was it Hellman or something like that but sorry, I don’t have the details of her mother as I have since lost contact with them. The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. I will give my 2 cents worth of analysis and would appreciate your inputs on the logic. My first guru taught us to think of Ketu as Mars and Rahu as Saturn. So Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti brought on the fever (Mars for fire) and Ketu is in the Nakshatra of Jupiter, the 6th lord signifying disease. All the astrological texts opine that Jupiter is auspicious for cancer lagnas. Why has it turned malefic here? Or did Jupiter guard her against death? Also, the sub-period at birth was Jupiter until 15/04/79 when the sub-period Saturn took over. Now, I think Saturn stands for neurological disorders hence the brain damage. What does Saturn being retrograde mean ? Saturn also aspects the lagna. Lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn and exalted Jupiter located in lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn. Does a functional malefic when exalted increases the harm to the house? Saturn and Mars also aspect the 11th house (6th from the 6th). Lagna lord, Moon is well placed in the 10th but is powerless as it is in the infant stage (0 degress 27 min) and it is also in the nakshatra of Ketu. What is interesting is that the parents never gave up on her especially the father. He is so devoted in caring for her – Sun in the 9th aspected by Jupiter. See, I am contradicting myself. I am not sure if one regards Jupiter, lord of 6th and 9th as malefic or benefic. Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > To , send an email to: > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 What a pity you missed the quiz but it is still good to see your interpretation. As I'm very much the beginner, could you please explain some of the terms here: 1. What is MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and rashi sandhi? It would be wonderful if you can find some remedial measures. They have been looking after her for some 22 years now hoping against hope that she might some day speak to them or be able to move her limbs a little. I haven't seen them since she was 19 but I would certainly make the effort to locate them again if you can help them. Thanks Sonia Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sonia, I haven't seen this discussion untill now, and entered data into the computer: There are some combinations noticable at first sight; 1. Chandra is lagnesh and is placed in Mesha(head/pitta disorders) in MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and further in rashi sandhi. Grahas in Maha sandhi are terribly weak and in particular damage the health. 2. Mangal is dispositor of Lagnesh and is placed in Dushatna or 8th house of chronic illness. Whenever Dasha of Dispositor of Lagna lord starts(which is placed in Dusthana) the health would suffer.. This is one of the basic rules.. do check in your database. To make things worse, Mangal is atmakarak which gives terrible suffuring starting right from Ketu dasha, ketu being in conjunction with mangal and ketu being akin to mangal. 3. Shukra is badhakesh and has joined mangal and ketu in 8th house of illness in fixed sign. Shukra is further in fixed navamsa together with surya (head/pitta related problems). So the problem is almost unsurmountable.. 4. There is Kala Sarpa Yoga broken by some grahas, which are unfortunately badhakesh and atmakarak so there is no escape from the Yoga.. There also some other points, but these basic at first glance graha pattern indicates the problem clearly One should think deeply what remedial measures to take... I will let you know when I ponder the problem more deeply Best wishes, Zoran Nicholas wrote: Dear SoniaHaving got quite close to the correct answer let me explain my reasoning .The native begins in Ketu dasha but Ketu is badly placed in the 8th and conjunct Mars .Both are fiery planets .Next I had alook at the first house which rules childhood generally .It's Lord is very weak being in the 1st degree in Aries a fiery rasi .It is occupied by Jupiter the 6th and 9th Lord. I am of the opinion that one has to consider both Lordships and therefore cannot consider Jupiter exclusively benefic and malefic .Yes that makes things complex but that's how I find it . As 6th Lord Jupiter rules dangers from fire which tallies with the Ketu considerations . Next I had a look at Mercury the indicator of skin and found it debiliiatated .This suggested to me burns causing damage to the skin . However the 3rd house also rules early childhood development and having it's Lord debiliatated and running a bad dasha early has combined to produce mental retardation . I do not think Saturn has a big effect in the outcome. I saw it conjunct Rahu in the second and saw that it could not give relief .The exaltation of the 9th Lord is felt by the support given to her by her father .Venus is in the 8th and so also unable to relieve the bad start during it's dasha . This is a good way to learn astrologyHope this helpsNicholas - sonia tanganchiTo: gjlistSent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:33 AMRe: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Hi Folks, First, a big thank you to all the very brave souls who responded to the quiz. Cynthia and Nicholas were spot on in relating the chart to the ‘heat’, ‘hot’, ‘burning’. Ilona talked about accidents which was quite rightly thought of as we often associate Ketu with accidents. Somebody asked me about the mother (sorry I must have deleted the mail, fingers too quick), was it Hellman or something like that but sorry, I don’t have the details of her mother as I have since lost contact with them. The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. I will give my 2 cents worth of analysis and would appreciate your inputs on the logic. My first guru taught us to think of Ketu as Mars and Rahu as Saturn. So Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti brought on the fever (Mars for fire) and Ketu is in the Nakshatra of Jupiter, the 6th lord signifying disease. All the astrological texts opine that Jupiter is auspicious for cancer lagnas. Why has it turned malefic here? Or did Jupiter guard her against death? Also, the sub-period at birth was Jupiter until 15/04/79 when the sub-period Saturn took over. Now, I think Saturn stands for neurological disorders hence the brain damage. What does Saturn being retrograde mean ? Saturn also aspects the lagna. Lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn and exalted Jupiter located in lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn. Does a functional malefic when exalted increases the harm to the house? Saturn and Mars also aspect the 11th house (6th from the 6th). Lagna lord, Moon is well placed in the 10th but is powerless as it is in the infant stage (0 degress 27 min) and it is also in the nakshatra of Ketu. What is interesting is that the parents never gave up on her especially the father. He is so devoted in caring for her – Sun in the 9th aspected by Jupiter. See, I am contradicting myself. I am not sure if one regards Jupiter, lord of 6th and 9th as malefic or benefic. Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > To , send an email to: > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Your use of Groups is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of Groups is subject to the -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 I think I just lost my message I typed as I got an error message after I clicked send. It was a pity that you missed the quiz but it's still an eye opener to see your interpretation. As I' very much the beginner, could you please explain what is meant by MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and rashi sandhi. These words are new to me. It would be wonderful if you could help with some remedial measures. The parents will be overjoyed. Though I have lost touch with them, I would certainly try to locate them if you can help. Thanks Sonia Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sonia, I haven't seen this discussion untill now, and entered data into the computer: There are some combinations noticable at first sight; 1. Chandra is lagnesh and is placed in Mesha(head/pitta disorders) in MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and further in rashi sandhi. Grahas in Maha sandhi are terribly weak and in particular damage the health. 2. Mangal is dispositor of Lagnesh and is placed in Dushatna or 8th house of chronic illness. Whenever Dasha of Dispositor of Lagna lord starts(which is placed in Dusthana) the health would suffer.. This is one of the basic rules.. do check in your database. To make things worse, Mangal is atmakarak which gives terrible suffuring starting right from Ketu dasha, ketu being in conjunction with mangal and ketu being akin to mangal. 3. Shukra is badhakesh and has joined mangal and ketu in 8th house of illness in fixed sign. Shukra is further in fixed navamsa together with surya (head/pitta related problems). So the problem is almost unsurmountable.. 4. There is Kala Sarpa Yoga broken by some grahas, which are unfortunately badhakesh and atmakarak so there is no escape from the Yoga.. There also some other points, but these basic at first glance graha pattern indicates the problem clearly One should think deeply what remedial measures to take... I will let you know when I ponder the problem more deeply Best wishes, Zoran Nicholas wrote: Dear SoniaHaving got quite close to the correct answer let me explain my reasoning .The native begins in Ketu dasha but Ketu is badly placed in the 8th and conjunct Mars .Both are fiery planets .Next I had alook at the first house which rules childhood generally .It's Lord is very weak being in the 1st degree in Aries a fiery rasi .It is occupied by Jupiter the 6th and 9th Lord. I am of the opinion that one has to consider both Lordships and therefore cannot consider Jupiter exclusively benefic and malefic .Yes that makes things complex but that's how I find it . As 6th Lord Jupiter rules dangers from fire which tallies with the Ketu considerations . Next I had a look at Mercury the indicator of skin and found it debiliiatated .This suggested to me burns causing damage to the skin . However the 3rd house also rules early childhood development and having it's Lord debiliatated and running a bad dasha early has combined to produce mental retardation . I do not think Saturn has a big effect in the outcome. I saw it conjunct Rahu in the second and saw that it could not give relief .The exaltation of the 9th Lord is felt by the support given to her by her father .Venus is in the 8th and so also unable to relieve the bad start during it's dasha . This is a good way to learn astrologyHope this helpsNicholas - sonia tanganchiTo: gjlistSent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:33 AMRe: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Hi Folks, First, a big thank you to all the very brave souls who responded to the quiz. Cynthia and Nicholas were spot on in relating the chart to the ‘heat’, ‘hot’, ‘burning’. Ilona talked about accidents which was quite rightly thought of as we often associate Ketu with accidents. Somebody asked me about the mother (sorry I must have deleted the mail, fingers too quick), was it Hellman or something like that but sorry, I don’t have the details of her mother as I have since lost contact with them. The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. I will give my 2 cents worth of analysis and would appreciate your inputs on the logic. My first guru taught us to think of Ketu as Mars and Rahu as Saturn. So Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti brought on the fever (Mars for fire) and Ketu is in the Nakshatra of Jupiter, the 6th lord signifying disease. All the astrological texts opine that Jupiter is auspicious for cancer lagnas. Why has it turned malefic here? Or did Jupiter guard her against death? Also, the sub-period at birth was Jupiter until 15/04/79 when the sub-period Saturn took over. Now, I think Saturn stands for neurological disorders hence the brain damage. What does Saturn being retrograde mean ? Saturn also aspects the lagna. Lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn and exalted Jupiter located in lagna is also in the Nakshatra of Saturn. Does a functional malefic when exalted increases the harm to the house? Saturn and Mars also aspect the 11th house (6th from the 6th). Lagna lord, Moon is well placed in the 10th but is powerless as it is in the infant stage (0 degress 27 min) and it is also in the nakshatra of Ketu. What is interesting is that the parents never gave up on her especially the father. He is so devoted in caring for her – Sun in the 9th aspected by Jupiter. See, I am contradicting myself. I am not sure if one regards Jupiter, lord of 6th and 9th as malefic or benefic. Regards Sonia --- sonia tanganchi <dhanus10 > wrote: > Dear gjlist members > > Something happened to this native during the 1st > month > of birth. Can u see what it is? > > The chart was calculated using GJ software offered > with the book 'Beneath a vedic sky' : > > Lagna 15 degrees Cancer in Pusya > Jupiter 6 degrees Cancer in Pushya > Saturn 15 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Rahu 23 degrees Leo in Purvaphalguni > Venus 7 degrees Aquarius in Dhanista > Ketu 23 degrees Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mars 29 degrees 36 min Aquarius in Purvabhadrapada > Mercury 6 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Sun 14 degrees Pisces in Uttarabhadrapad > Moon 0 degrees 27 min in Ashwini > > Native was running Ketu dasa Ketu bukhti during > first > month of birth. > > Birth : 29/03/79 3.00pm > Place : Lat 3 degrees 5 mins North > Long 101 degrees 59 mins East > Time Zone: 7 hrs 50 mins > > Regards > Sonia > > > > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies./ > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > To , send an email to: > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Your use of Groups is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of Groups is subject to the -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Sonia, What a pity you missed the quiz but it is still good to see your interpretation. As I'm very much the beginner, could you please explain some of the terms here: 1. What is MAHA or RIKSHA sandhi and rashi sandhi? Maha or Riskha sandhi falls into the last navamsa of Cancer, Pisces and Scorpio.(from 26deg 40 minutes till 30degree), and in the first Navamsa of Aries, leo and saggitarius(from 0 deg till 3degres 20 minutes). The problem about these sandhis is that there ends the cycle of naksatras and cycle of rashis.. So this is a sort of double gap. Each graha is very sensitively placed, more se when Chandra is placed there, which could endanger life and is called Gandhanta Dosha. Graha will manifest inner tendency, not the outer. The physical aspect of graha (body will be often hurt, while the mental aspect when chandra is placed there will also suffer) We had a case of Surya in Gandanta in Mesha for Kumba Lagna, and the person was born in Surya mahadasha (3rd house) with paralysed hands(3rd) Rashi sandhi is the very first navamsa or the last navamsa of any sign. It is particularly strong and the first and the last degree of the sign. Graha placed there can be very atmic(spiritual particalrly at the latest degree) or physically very weak. It would be wonderful if you can find some remedial measures. They have been looking after her for some 22 years now hoping against hope that she might some day speak to them or be able to move her limbs a little. I haven't seen them since she was 19 but I would certainly make the effort to locate them again if you can help them. I will think of something which may help even though there is badhakesh in fixed rashi/navamsa indicating very severe problem.. However, I seldom quit(dhanu lagna) Best wishes Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Sonia, thank you for this quiz. This is indeed a good way to study astrology. I have noticed the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I would like to know what you intended by fits: were they seizures? Best regards Maddalena The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Yes, it is fits as in seizures or I should have said 'epileptic fits'. My apologies for being vague. Could u please elaborate on the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I'm a green horn and very eager to learn. Tks Sonia Maddalena Cecchinato <maddalena.cecchinato (AT) tiscali (DOT) it> wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for this quiz. This is indeed a good way to study astrology. I have noticed the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I would like to know what you intended by fits: were they seizures? Best regards Maddalena The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Sonia, thank you for your quick answer. In a way, you shouldn't be paying too much attention to what I say, as I'm just a beginner in Jyotish and I'm very influenced by my western astrology background. I have recently seen another chart (just one mind you) regarding seizure problems, where Aquarius and Pisces and the 8th house were prominent and Mercury was afflicted in 6th (so there is a difference). In one of my books, a medical western astrology book, Pisces is correlated to brain (not only feet) and Aquarius is correlated to seizures. This book is probably more theoretical than empirical, but I find it interesting nonetheless. Mercury is messages, therefore neurotransmission as well. So Mercury, debilitated and retrograde in Pisces, seriously afflicted by 6th lord Jupiter (exalted: therefore very strong, and in 1st: body, first part of life) and combust by proximity to the Sun, is very weak indeed and very vulnerable to transits. Mercury is also lord of 3d, so 'communication' problems indicated again. In the first month of life, the pratyantara was initially Jupiter. On 8th april transiting Jupiter would have made that aspect to Mercury exact... Jupiter aspects Venus in 8th/Aquarius too. The aspect is not full according to Jyotish (say only 80% instead of 100%) as it is to the eigth sign/house from himself (one removed from the seventh), but the aspect has a very close orb again... There are other afflictions in the chart that would aggravate the situation. ... you see, this is not really classical jyotish. Only some schools of thought give importance to exact aspects in the Rasi chart I think (although of course an exact aspect turns up as conjunction in some vargas, like D6 for Jupiter and Mercury in this instance). And Saturn is the significator for nerves I think. It would be good to know the experienced members' opinions on this. Best regards Maddalena - sonia tanganchi gjlist Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:24 AM Re: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Dear Maddalena Yes, it is fits as in seizures or I should have said 'epileptic fits'. My apologies for being vague. Could u please elaborate on the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I'm a green horn and very eager to learn. Tks Sonia Maddalena Cecchinato <maddalena.cecchinato (AT) tiscali (DOT) it> wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for this quiz. This is indeed a good way to study astrology. I have noticed the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I would like to know what you intended by fits: were they seizures? Best regards Maddalena The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 Dear Maddalena, Send the chart, if you wish to discuss it.. Mercury is significator for nerves, sensorium, while shani also indicates neurological problems. The aspect of Mangal should be there to indicate fits..Rahu is akin to shani, so Rahu' influence would also participate in problem.. Best wishes, Zoran Maddalena Cecchinato wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for your quick answer.In a way, you shouldn't be paying too much attention to what I say, as I'm just a beginner in Jyotish and I'm very influenced by my western astrology background.I have recently seen another chart (just one mind you) regarding seizure problems, where Aquarius and Pisces and the 8th house were prominent and Mercury was afflicted in 6th (so there is a difference).In one of my books, a medical western astrology book, Pisces is correlated to brain (not only feet) and Aquarius is correlated to seizures. This book is probably more theoretical than empirical, but I find it interesting nonetheless.Mercury is messages, therefore neurotransmission as well.So Mercury, debilitated and retrograde in Pisces, seriously afflicted by 6th lord Jupiter (exalted: therefore very strong, and in 1st: body, first part of life) and combust by proximity to the Sun, is very weak indeed and very vulnerable to transits.Mercury is also lord of 3d, so 'communication' problems indicated again.In the first month of life, the pratyantara was initially Jupiter. On 8th april transiting Jupiter would have made that aspect to Mercury exact...Jupiter aspects Venus in 8th/Aquarius too. The aspect is not full according to Jyotish (say only 80% instead of 100%) as it is to the eigth sign/house from himself (one removed from the seventh), but the aspect has a very close orb again...There are other afflictions in the chart that would aggravate the situation. ... you see, this is not really classical jyotish. Only some schools of thought give importance to exact aspects in the Rasi chart I think (although of course an exact aspect turns up as conjunction in some vargas, like D6 for Jupiter and Mercury in this instance). And Saturn is the significator for nerves I think.It would be good to know the experienced members' opinions on this. Best regardsMaddalena - sonia tanganchi gjlist Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:24 AM Re: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Dear Maddalena Yes, it is fits as in seizures or I should have said 'epileptic fits'. My apologies for being vague. Could u please elaborate on the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I'm a green horn and very eager to learn. Tks Sonia Maddalena Cecchinato <maddalena.cecchinato (AT) tiscali (DOT) it> wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for this quiz. This is indeed a good way to study astrology.I have noticed the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I would like to know what you intended by fits: were they seizures? Best regards Maddalena The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Terms of Service. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 Sounds logical. Perhaps, as Zoran suggested, you might like to present the chart for discussion. Regards Sonia Maddalena Cecchinato <maddalena.cecchinato (AT) tiscali (DOT) it> wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for your quick answer. In a way, you shouldn't be paying too much attention to what I say, as I'm just a beginner in Jyotish and I'm very influenced by my western astrology background. I have recently seen another chart (just one mind you) regarding seizure problems, where Aquarius and Pisces and the 8th house were prominent and Mercury was afflicted in 6th (so there is a difference). In one of my books, a medical western astrology book, Pisces is correlated to brain (not only feet) and Aquarius is correlated to seizures. This book is probably more theoretical than empirical, but I find it interesting nonetheless. Mercury is messages, therefore neurotransmission as well. So Mercury, debilitated and retrograde in Pisces, seriously afflicted by 6th lord Jupiter (exalted: therefore very strong, and in 1st: body, first part of life) and combust by proximity to the Sun, is very weak indeed and very vulnerable to transits. Mercury is also lord of 3d, so 'communication' problems indicated again. In the first month of life, the pratyantara was initially Jupiter. On 8th april transiting Jupiter would have made that aspect to Mercury exact... Jupiter aspects Venus in 8th/Aquarius too. The aspect is not full according to Jyotish (say only 80% instead of 100%) as it is to the eigth sign/house from himself (one removed from the seventh), but the aspect has a very close orb again... There are other afflictions in the chart that would aggravate the situation. ... you see, this is not really classical jyotish. Only some schools of thought give importance to exact aspects in the Rasi chart I think (although of course an exact aspect turns up as conjunction in some vargas, like D6 for Jupiter and Mercury in this instance). And Saturn is the significator for nerves I think. It would be good to know the experienced members' opinions on this. Best regards Maddalena - sonia tanganchi gjlist Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:24 AM Re: [GJ] A quiz...a special chart - the answer Dear Maddalena Yes, it is fits as in seizures or I should have said 'epileptic fits'. My apologies for being vague. Could u please elaborate on the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I'm a green horn and very eager to learn. Tks Sonia Maddalena Cecchinato <maddalena.cecchinato (AT) tiscali (DOT) it> wrote: Dear Sonia, thank you for this quiz. This is indeed a good way to study astrology. I have noticed the exact aspect (within 1 degree) of exalted 6th lord in 1st to Mercury combust in Pisces and think this may be significant. I would like to know what you intended by fits: were they seizures? Best regards Maddalena The native had fits as a result of very high fevers which caused grave damage to the brain. She’s a ‘vegetable’ and can only laugh, cry and scream inappropriately. I’m not sure what caused the fever. The last time I saw her was when she was 19. The parents tried everything possible but to no avail. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Greetings - send greetings for Easter, Passover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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