Re:Vedic mantra and gems (Tarun Chopra & jyotish brahmani)

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Dear Tarun Chopra & jyotish brahmani and other list members

 

 

i would like to tell that it is not an easy Game that you just recommend any

stone to any person. Please note that there is always duality in every

thing. Some time stone gives so bad results and stones are also very costly

also. Please for the beginner of astrology don’t go by the recommendation by

the list.

 

I think mostly astrologers or seekers of astrology are participating in this

list. When we come to know about any thing there is a special combination of

planets. Otherwise it is not possible to fully utilize our knowledge. My

point is many known people who know how to lead life with much ease, don’t

have a proper chance to tell because they don't found seeker, or who can’t

misuse their knowledge.

 

 

Trun chopra is right in saying “Some time stone gives so bad results and

stones are also very costly” every thing have two sides ( or I say

multidimensional) for example a doctor can use knife to save the life and

another person may use to hurt somebody.

 

We are concerned for doctor’s knife only, how to use , precaution’s , what

to do in emergency

 

If we succeed and renovate the old system it’s a great help for astrology

science

 

 

those who are suffering any thing should go to an practicing astrologer.

Those astrologer who are full time astrologer. and ask for remedy. you know

there we cannot reason any thing by our brains a astrologer when he does a

reading or recommends any remedy is connected to the universal soul

(intuition the God voice) and those who are full time astrologers are the

channel of God. so try to reach those astrologer who are full time

astrologer a good astrologer never ask money second he is always welcome to

help and listen the problem and a good astrologer never tells future instead

he try to help to overcome the problem of the person by telling very cheap

remedy try to find that astrologer With best wishes Tarun Chopra

 

There are multidimensional remedies, I think from ancient books when we

experiment and found it useful we must share with other friends. I think

astrology as a science and above other sciences which helps human in their

every aspect of life. Compilation is required, Das goravani have done a

beautiful work in this field.

 

Question 1: What would you recommend if mantra is not a viable option for

the native?

 

Please tell in detail or some cases where you don’t found the mantra option

is viable.

 

Some times it is possible due to other religion or beliefs somebody don’t

agrees to do jap. In those cases I recommend the donation related to planet.

 

Question 2: is Where is the data that a remedy will be applied indicated in

the native's chart (receiving mantra/yagya/gems) and ultimately the outcome

of such application?

 

Debilitated planets, dasha planets are very first to give importance.

By experience we can find out more and more. I personally think we should

start from little things to learn great details. My guruji say’s “knowledge

is what you have in your mind” If you refer books at the time when knowledge

is required it may be very late. I found there lesson very useful, by

starting from little things and sharing with other our knowledge is

expanding, we should not be miser to share our knowledge with others,

because by part of society we have some responsibilities, for example A

person expense whole life in searching something and found in 50 years. If

he goes from this world unshared his knowledge we lost 50 years. Our

ancestors think very much so they develop scared books, and write there

knowledge in coded form (stories).

 

Thanks for your views *om*

 

Pundit madkan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Pundit Madhan,

 

>

> i would like to tell that it is not an easy Game that you just recommend any

> stone to any person. Please note that there is always duality in every

> thing. Some time stone gives so bad results and stones are also very costly

> also. Please for the beginner of astrology don’t go by the recommendation by

> the list.

>

 

In a way you are right. I personally tend to advice fasts and much

easier and

less costly remedial measures. Yet, as far as practicing astrologer,

each month

I read about 30-60 charts. So far, I have seen and read a few thosand or

more.

The most important remedial measure is SADHANA or spiritual practice.

Yet, most

people here in the list already do have their own sadhana, so in a way

we do not

often make an emphasise on that subject.

 

>

> I think mostly astrologers or seekers of astrology are participating in this

> list. When we come to know about any thing there is a special combination of

> planets. Otherwise it is not possible to fully utilize our knowledge. My

> point is many known people who know how to lead life with much ease, don’t

> have a proper chance to tell because they don't found seeker, or who can’t

> misuse their knowledge.

>

 

I cannot fully agree. I've been teaching Jyotisha to a small group here

under

the guidence of Shri Jagannath Vedic centre, and I have just given them

lectures

about "lower" knolwedge of Jyotish such as calcuations and

interpretation, and

"higher" knowledge of Jyotish about JyotirVidya, spiritual aspect and

Para

Knowledge given by Parmapara of Vedic Masters. My students read vedic

literature, Upanishads and other aspects of Vedic knowledge.. We

actually(I

beleive most of us), study the Jyotisha as a Spiritual Sadhana, not the

means of

interpretation of charts.

 

>

> Trun chopra is right in saying “Some time stone gives so bad results and

> stones are also very costly” every thing have two sides ( or I say

> multidimensional) for example a doctor can use knife to save the life and

> another person may use to hurt somebody.

>

 

I agree, and therefore I said it is delicate matter. Before I started

advising

the stones, I have read most of available scriptures about it, and

talked to

number of Traditional Pundits. One must be very careful in that area,

and in

that-I agree with you

 

>

> We are concerned for doctor’s knife only, how to use , precaution’s , what

> to do in emergency

> If we succeed and renovate the old system it’s a great help for astrology

> science those who are suffering any thing should go to an practicing

> astrologer.

> Those astrologer who are full time astrologer. and ask for remedy. you know

> there we cannot reason any thing by our brains a astrologer when he does a

> reading or recommends any remedy is connected to the universal soul

> (intuition the God voice) and those who are full time astrologers are the

> channel of God. so try to reach those astrologer who are full time

> astrologer a good astrologer never ask money second he is always welcome to

> help and listen the problem and a good astrologer never tells future instead

> he try to help to overcome the problem of the person by telling very cheap

> remedy try to find that astrologer With best wishes Tarun Chopra

>

 

I agree again.. I have seen thousands of charts for free, and the best

way is

dakshina, what is little understandable here in the west. My Jyotish

Guru

insisted that teaching goes For FREE, and I do it.. Yet, for

consultations those

who can afford, they want and they pay, those who cannot afford, they

say so,

and get free reading.. It is a matter of sincerity of those who ask for

consultation.I never done reading without Sankalpa or desire to know

one's destiny and progress..

"he is always welcome to

help and listen the problem and a good astrologer never tells future

instead

he try to help to overcome the problem of the person by telling very

cheap

remedy try to find that astrologer "

This is the BEST point. That is exactly what I keep telling to people.

Reading

future can satisfy intellect and ego of an astrologer. The point is to

"throw"

light on a person's life and help him/her move into the direction of

evolution

and spiritual progress. That is what I am trying to do.. May Lord

Jagannath Help

Me in that..

 

 

>

> There are multidimensional remedies, I think from ancient books when we

> experiment and found it useful we must share with other friends. I think

> astrology as a science and above other sciences which helps human in their

> every aspect of life. Compilation is required, Das goravani have done a

> beautiful work in this field.

>

 

Here you go..

 

>

> Question 1: What would you recommend if mantra is not a viable option for

> the native?

>

 

FASTING is something everybody can do, no matter of religious background

of

level of consciousness. I tend to explain to the people their wrong

patterns of

thinking and behaviour, and try to emphasize the need for self-change. I

can give you number of results where such remedial measures

qucikly brought the change and positive outcome

 

>

> Please tell in detail or some cases where you don’t found the mantra option

> is viable.

>

 

We can discuss that.. One should see in the chart, whether the person is

prone

to accept what remedial measures and act accordingly

 

>

> Some times it is possible due to other religion or beliefs somebody don’t

> agrees to do jap. In those cases I recommend the donation related to planet.

>

 

I often have the case in here, due to strong Ortodox beleif. Depedning

on the

graha you may advice prayers or suitable advice depending on the

religion

itself.

 

>

> Question 2: is Where is the data that a remedy will be applied indicated in

> the native's chart (receiving mantra/yagya/gems) and ultimately the outcome

> of such application?

>

 

We can discuss that if you want..

 

>

> Debilitated planets, dasha planets are very first to give importance.

> By experience we can find out more and more. I personally think we should

> start from little things to learn great details. My guruji say’s “knowledge

> is what you have in your mind” If you refer books at the time when knowledge

> is required it may be very late.

Your Guruji is very right. Knowledge is structured in consciousness,not

in books.

 

I found there lesson very useful, by

> starting from little things and sharing with other our knowledge is

> expanding, we should not be miser to share our knowledge with others,

> because by part of society we have some responsibilities, for example A

> person expense whole life in searching something and found in 50 years. If

> he goes from this world unshared his knowledge we lost 50 years. Our

> ancestors think very much so they develop scared books, and write there

> knowledge in coded form (stories).

>

> Thanks for your views *om*

>

> Pundit madkan

I om fully open to share my knolwedge so if you wish to discuss

something go ahead..

Best wishes,

 

--

Zoran Radosavljevic

Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

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