DIVINE BIRTH

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obeisances

i found this to be offensive

y.s

stavavali devi dasi

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Dear Carol

 

you<<It was with a quick thought and an egoistic twinkle that I wrote that

question, not thinking I would be taken seriously...it was in response to the

idea of a good person to come into the world this September, followed with the

thought of Krishna's return to earth....i was putting both of these ideas

together and rejected that we could predict exact return of Krishna to earth

form, so wrote my foolish question. Many thanks to you for your thoughtful

response, with which I am in complete agreement.>>

 

me

 

I am sorry for giving you an uneccessary anxiety, i get a karma for doing that (subtle).

 

Do not worry about it, i know that it was not your intention to be

"challenging", but i took your question as an opportunity to preach the Glories

of the Lord and clarify certain points.

 

Many times Srila Prabhupada told some devotees to "challenge him" with some

questions likely to be asked by some people.

 

In that way Srila Prabhupada taught how to answer to those questions.

Best wishes,Natabara Das

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Reading your writings brings me much food for thought, just as they

always did a couple of years ago. I invite you to continue taking the

opportunity to preach (see below), as you do so much good when you do.

With best wishes, and thanks,

Carol

In a message dated 3/12/2002 9:43:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, natabara (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com writes:

Do not worry about it, i know that it was not your intention to be

"challenging", but i took your question as an opportunity to preach the Glories

of the Lord and clarify certain points.

Many times Srila Prabhupada told some devotees to "challenge him" with some

questions likely to be asked by some people.

In that way Srila Prabhupada taught how to answer to those questions.

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yes even i think that it is useless to be in the list as i thought

that my guru shri k n rao will be on the list and he is not here

and since i had the privilage of meeting many incompetent

astrologers so it is use less

talking with them.i have the

problem of not accepting but he best. and i would like to keep

every single word which he writes as his interpretations of the

horoscopes are the best.

as for iscon and its members i respect him(prabhupad)but

cannot say the same for his followers they are some what like the

nazis. i have been to iskon temples and you only believe that one

mantra one guru is there.then what about all the gurus of india.

are they fools look at mata nirmala devi you know what her

followers call her the divine incarnation of durga.yes i am

disappointted with your theories. you have not agreeed to read the

books i have said and given the judgement. i had at least read

many of the prabhupads books.so before

rejecting all what i said dont you think that you read what i

said.

have you read the meerabais devotional songs and surdas writings

they are also in the praise of lord krishana. and what about

gitgovind.(book find it on the net)

what about the saying of kabir and kabir panthis

astrology and yoga are simple.dont complicate then with the mumbo

and jumbo which you say is beyond compare . pandit amarnat of

delhi a realy good astrologer says that astrology is nothing but 9

planets and 12 rashis undrstand them and you know astrology.

yoga is also the same .if you read patanjali yoga sutras you will

find them the best way to explain the yoga. is it is necessary to

complicate it.or may be by complicating it it bacomes beyond the

understanding of comman people

and so that you gain importance as a guru or a advicer.even gita

is only 700 slokas.why complicate the life when the mordern life

is allready complicated.

at least allow people to lve simply and if you look at all the

best books you will find then small and having deeeeep meanings

..

swami vivakannda was there in the last quater of 18 th century.do

read him a time has passed when his fame was all over the world

and still larg number of people follow him.do read him it willl be

a eye opener for you.

i have also met many of your gurus i also had gone to the

temple in calcutta and in delhi so dont sya that i dont unerstand

iskon. if you want to praise sopme thing then praise the hara

krishana mantra .it was this mantra which ,madewhat swani prabhu

pad was and chaitany was . it is the effect of the mantra.so is

the same case of other people.

why not tell peopple that do 20 mala of hara krishana mantra every

day and folow a simople life and all the problems of life will be

cured slowly.that will be better as you your self know all the

mantras have the curutive effect.off course not tantrick mantra.

easy to back out of the battle but it is difficlt to overcome the

enemy.at least if you would have ripped apart my argumnets i would

have liked it.

and mastard oil

medicine properties and try using it when the dasha of saturn is

running in a person/.you will realis e the use of simple remedies

to cure complex problems .make things simple and not the use less

discusions on ego and super ego.do medation you will realise the

benefits .is use less to entyer into arguments .apply it say swami

sivsnanda says.devine life society(he died in1 1960 )read his

books also.

wishing you all the bestand it does not effect me at all even if

you throw my mails into junck box.

truth allways triumps. and what ever i have sad is the wisdon i

gained by reading books and company of great men.

al the ideas about human beings have been allready discovered but

we generally re enven the wheel.what i have said just confirms

that wht ever the great saints have spoken or wriitteeeeen we are

just rediscovering then

and what i ahve said is nothing new it is allready written and the

experience of saints

deepak

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Thank you so much for those words for enlightenment. It’s really heartening to

know that people like you from the West or rather non-Indians know our rich

Indian cultures & traditional values much more than many Indians here. It’s a

shame that many young Indians have very little knowledge of our ancient Vedic

knowledge. People like you and Shri Das Goravani have been a great inspiration

for couple of friends along with me here in India.

 

Thank you,

Himanshu Patel.

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I totally agree with you Himanshu. No wonder, Indian "enlighted souls" go to the

west for propoganda of the Hindu thoughts because listeners are OUT THERE. See

His Holiness Mahesh Yogi, Swami Vivekananda, Srila Prabhupada... etc to name a

few.

 

People like Shri Raghunandan Das (Das Goravani) and Natabara Das by all means

need to be praised. But do not get bothered, criticism prevails and will

prevail.

 

Hare Krishna,

 

Raajul Kaushik

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Himanshu Patel

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Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:48 PM

Re: [GJ] Divine Birth

Dear Shri Natabara,

 

Thank you so much for those words for enlightenment. It’s really

heartening to know that people like you from the West or rather non-Indians

know our rich Indian cultures & traditional values much more than many Indians

here. It’s a shame that many young Indians have very little knowledge of

our ancient Vedic knowledge. People like you and Shri Das Goravani have been a

great inspiration for couple of friends along with me here in India.

 

Thank you,

Himanshu Patel.

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