Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 dear natabara, i knew that u r goinng to say things about my spelling mistakes dont u think that getting the gist of the ideas is much more important than the presentation itself ..and the knowledge not the language is important ...information can be conveyed in any language ...but human minds understands thje basic concepts ....i think always ... its an assurance from me that in future and infact from in here itself ..i'd be very much presice and cautious of my spelling mistakes . do tell me the country u belong to ...it would help me to know the cultural inluence on ur mind ..and ur basic philosophy ....as its said that the effect of the water of the land never dims .and this <beginning of the sentence with and .....is acceptable these days ....i'm sure u r upgraded too >...and and this also reflects in ur way of doing predictions as u urself know while predicting that u have to know "desh ,kal ,patra " meaning country ,time period and the person u give the prediction to . while giving predictions of an ancient period or judging history u have to go back inthat time itself without the knowledge which u have gained of the present time period .max muller was a pioneer and he helped to spread the knowledge of vedas and indian religious texts to the world when indian civilisation and culture was looked down upon ...and also when india was under british rule...and the basic concept of british rule was that indian's are not fit to rule themselves ..also the british culture is more advanced than any other culture of the world .. as for today it is the indian culture which is giving relief to the tortured souls throughout the world ..it seems surprising that u look down upon max muller ..not realising that there were no english translations and other books available to him at that time .... today u have many books so u can easily say that he was biased ..i also know that he never came to india so how can he understand truely the core of indian culture ,but stil his efforts were admirable and he struggled a lot to learn sanskrit and spread it in germany ...we as indians are deeply indebted to him that he was able to spread to a great extent our thinking to the western world when we were not able to defend ourselves . who can afford to be lazy and careless ...have u seen the lion...his carelessness doesn't mean that he is not the king of the jungle ..more important is the ideas and not the spellings . regarding indian authors i had the previlage of seeing many gurus and the religious texts of many sects of india and i found that in the religious terms they are still the best as compared to the west ...i aknowledge the excellence of buddhist and the deep understanding of these sciences by japan and china ..they are now the treasure house of the buddhist religion ...and ofcourse tibet ....but reading a book written by western author about indian religion is like a child giving advice to an old man . gita has always said that work for the work sake ...u have come to know about gita from the last 200 years ...but it has been followed by almost all the people of the country and its a surprising fact that most of the indian rulers in one way or the other affected by gita . most of the gurus worked for the benefit of people and i know that shri prabhupada became a monk after 50 years of age ....i do not deny his commentery on gita...but his path was a path of bhakti yoga as i have seen again n again in isckon temple i do hve his horoscope also and its given in k n rao's books ..i hope u have seen it ,but still if u read sant gyaneshwars ...gyaneshwari ..the maharashtrian saint who lived in 12 ad and died at the age of around 24 ...or taken samadhi as he...while alive closed himself into a cave he was a full blown yogi and his guru was one of the best teachers of yoga ..and then by our former poresident "dr radhakrishna "he has also written it .if u look at what swami vivekanand has said about gita ..and his meaning of it u will realise as the mind so the commentery ..different yogis have foloowed different four paths of yoga as its already given in gita .. as regarding the gunas i think that best is always the best ...bible ,gita ,quran and vedas are always the same but people interpret it ina different way ....were the prophets who wrote or spoke these words ...were not laying down a broad idealistic vision for the people ? and why do u consider them to be the truth or u can say that these people were above normal beings ...or someone has reached such hieghts that he becomes an ideal itself ..i think sri k n rao has reached such hieghts regarding astrology as 2000 years ago ....virihamira had done so ....again virihamira was once a normal human being ..dont u think that u let the destiny decide aftyer 5o years who will be considered the best ...i have till this date not seen someone so good as good in writing books and spreading the knowledge of astrology to the masses .,..yes i know thwy are many indian astrologers who are better than him in astrology but they have not writen the books and spread the knowledge itself . as regarding the yoga the middle path is itself written in gita and our body is still the best teacher the person who does yoga will automatically know if he is extending his limits and human knowledge and excellence has been produced by always testing the beliefs of that particular time period ...so is the case in the yoga if u test things not just read them u will find that u'll know many secrests of the yoga itself ..and what i have said was just a little part of yoga ..it can be done by any normal person of course if u want to exceed the limits then u need a guru ..guru basically shortens the path ..do u think eklavya was a fool ?he considered dronacharya as a guru but never got his teachings from him ..and still he was able to defeat arjun indirectly ..,.so guru is always not needed . i know that isckon is a product of chaitanya mahaprabhus mind ....he gave the broad ideas and the disciple chain implemented it down the 100 years ..prabhupada himself was givena prediction that he will build 108 temples .if u read the books of swami vivekananda and the teachings of paramhansa they potray a different world ..a world of work for the work sake and not indulge in arbitrary discussions but to work for the benefit of the people and help the poor ..u have closed ur mind to the other influences the best always see both the sides of the coin ..u have been it seems only been influenced by isckon while vivekanandas guru also lived like a christian and a muslim to judge the truth of various religions and the proclaimed that all the religions lead to the same goal ..though it had been said so since time immemorial in india ..this is the experience which indians had to learn again and isckon is nothing but a wave in indian religion ....but it was the influence of vivekananda that india got freedom ....gandhi was deeply influenced by him . in case u have arguments ...and reasons to justify urself ...do correspond in a likely manner ....i'd not mind ur ripping my arguments . one last thing.... intelligent people always take the best things from all the best sources and reject what is not correct ....do read all the books i have refered above ...so that u can .... i'm more than confident that u'll think broader ... wishing the best deepak singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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