Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 dear carol Saturn is the ring master, he is fate, he is death. whether weak or not his duty is to teach people to move in the right direction. regards partha gjlist, Carolhook@a... wrote: > Dear Partha, > Please excuse me for venturing into this discussion, for I am wondering about the last part of Saravali's quotation. Can you describe what is meant by Saravali's words, "But in the case of Saturn it is different"? This does not explain to me what is the effect of Saturn when weak or strong. Thanking you in advance, Partha (or anyone else answering this question). > Carol > > In a message dated Mon, 4 Mar 2002 9:52:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> writes: > > > this is what i get from saraveli, i do understand that taking things > > verbatim is not correct > > please tell me why did saraveli the great scholar quote the below > > > > 1-2. Kalapurusha's Soul etc. and their Use > > The Sun is the soul of the Zodiac personified, the Moon mind, Mars > > strength, Mercury speech (voice), Jupiter intelligence, Venus > > comforts, Rahu ego and Saturn grief. If at birth planets indicative > > of soul etc. are strong, these significations will equally be strong. > > If these planets are weak, the effects are only meager. But in the > > case of Saturn it is different. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > gjlist, "natabara" <natabara@n...> wrote: > > > Dear Cynthia > > > > > > you > > > <<When I begin each session I show the Western chart and > > their "sign." > > > > > > I say that we in the west use this to identify the ego" "I am an > > Aries!" > > > > > > In Vedic, it is much deeper, here we see the Sun as the essence of > > the person or the soul.>> > > > > > > me > > > i think that it is a positive approach the way you describe the ego > > pattern to them. > > > > > > you > > > <<Buddha who suggests that for enlightenment and peace we must > > release the ego.>> > > > > > > me > > > Yes, but only Narayana (God) can tame the ego. > > > > > > you > > > <<Anyway, the summation is simple. Do you believe Freud who cut us > > into pieces and called on the ego or do you follow the enlightened > > Buddha who sought to help us become one with all?>> > > > > > > me > > > Here we have Freud and Bhuda. > > > As a Vaisnava i have a peculiar perspective. > > > The education makers of this materialistic so called western > > society, decided around the 19 century (to give a beginning of > > course, because they have been doing a similar thing for generations) > > to compile an educative system to give in schools. > > > > > > Therefore, they found suitable to incorporate into their > > curriculum, the theories of Darwin (which are given as facts rather > > than theories even if they do not have the tangible evidence), Freud > > (there are many better psychologists since him but he was stick on > > the curriculum as well), Karl Marx (they had to invent the opposition > > as well to control both sides) who did not invent the communist > > manifesto. The Pope at that time was already shouting against the > > communists two years before Marx was paid to write "his manifesto". > > > > > > The ego has the tendency to identify to a group (the "i Am of Aries > > and the i belong or i balance" of the opposite sign of Libra) and > > therefore it is easy to control both sides of the coin by allowing > > the opposition to exist. > > > > > > Regarding Bhuda, according to the Vedas, He is God with a > > particular mission. Bhuda came to attract those that wanted to > > identify with His teachings. In Buddha's time, most of people were > > killing indefense animals to satisfy their corrupted taste for meat > > eating. By eating meat people take part in killing and therefore > > they lose the sense of mercy. Without the sense of Mercy, people > > cannot understand God. Therefore God came to earth as the Bhuda to > > attract people to his "Ahimsa" (non violence) movement and in that > > way, people became converted to Buddhism and stopped killing animals. > > > > > > Therefore as a Vaisnava i follow the Bhagavad Gita to have a clear > > idea of those religious and philosophical views. > > > > > > you > > > <<I do not look for the ego in the Vedic chart because in my > > approach I seek to help the client unify not separate.>> > > > > > > me > > > I do the same. > > > > > > I do hope that this helps and that the list got my article called > > Ego. My computer says that the list got it but i got as well another > > email saying that the article was rejected. Perhaps it was too long > > to cope with the system. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Natabara Das > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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