Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Cynthia, As India is a parliamentary system, it's the PM. So Vajpayee is your man. Speaking of which, does anybody have his data handy? Chris At 11:41 AM 3/3/02 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: > Dear Learned Listers When it comes to power in India, who is the >leader? Is it the president Narayanan or is it the Prime Minister >Vajpayee? Or, is it another that I do not know. Thank You Cynthia > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Dear Chris and all I have not been able to find his birth data. Hopefully, one of our Indian colleagues will be willing to share it with us. Waiting in Texas cynthia - Christopher Kevill <ckevill <gjlist>; <gjlist> Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:02 PM [GJ] PM Vajpayee > Cynthia, > > As India is a parliamentary system, it's the PM. So Vajpayee is your man. > Speaking of which, does anybody have his data handy? > > Chris > > At 11:41 AM 3/3/02 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: > > Dear Learned Listers When it comes to power in India, who is the > >leader? Is it the president Narayanan or is it the Prime Minister > >Vajpayee? Or, is it another that I do not know. Thank You Cynthia > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Dear List, Here it is: Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Vajpayee, A.B Natal Chart December 25, 1926Time: 5:00:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 10' 00"Latitude: 26 N 14' 00" +--------------+| |Mar | |Rah || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Jup | |GL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||AL | |Moo || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sun Ven |Asc Mer |HL |Mnd Glk ||Ket |Sat | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Glk | | |Sun || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Rah | |Mnd || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Mer | |Moo Mar || | |Ket GL || | |AL || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||HL | |Asc Jup |Ven Sat || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ - cynthia novak gjlist Monday, March 04, 2002 5:29 AM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee Dear Chris and allI have not been able to find his birth data.Hopefully, one of our Indian colleagues will be willing to share it with us.Waiting in Texascynthia-Christopher Kevill <ckevill (AT) interlog (DOT) com><gjlist>; <gjlist>Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:02 PM[GJ] PM Vajpayee> Cynthia,>> As India is a parliamentary system, it's the PM. So Vajpayee is your man.> Speaking of which, does anybody have his data handy?>> Chris>> At 11:41 AM 3/3/02 -0600, cynthia novak wrote:> > Dear Learned Listers When it comes to power in India, who is the> >leader? Is it the president Narayanan or is it the Prime Minister> >Vajpayee? Or, is it another that I do not know. Thank You Cynthia> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to the >>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> : gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com>>> Your use of Groups is subject to >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Dear list, I want to give you that the date of birth details of PM Vajpayee. DOB 24-NOV-1924. TOB 5-45AM POB- GWALIOR(M.P) With Regards Rajesh Agarwal _______________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Thank you, Shailesh What kind of man is he, in your opinion? Is he wise, and rational? I ask because the powerful planets from April through may trigger his Mercury strongly. I am concerned that if he is not wise and rational that emotions will run hot from experiences of betrayal. I believe that the nakshatras tell the story of the coming times and all leaders whose charts are [owerfully triggered will be like chessmen on the board of destiny. I suspect that the consciousness of the people will direct the hand as it is played out, and that the leaders are playing their roles. I think that the outcome will be very positive in the long run and very difficult in the short term. I welcome other ideas and discussion. Thus far we have this man, S/ Hussein, GWBush, VP Cheney, Colin Powell, Y. ARafat, A. Sharon, Sec. of Defense for US Rumsfeld and Gen. Musharaff of Pakistan all intensely triggered by the lineup. cynthia - Shailesh gjlist Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:09 PM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee Dear List, Here it is: Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com Vajpayee, A.B Natal Chart December 25, 1926Time: 5:00:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 78 E 10' 00"Latitude: 26 N 14' 00" +--------------+| |Mar | |Rah || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Jup | |GL || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||AL | |Moo || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Sun Ven |Asc Mer |HL |Mnd Glk ||Ket |Sat | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Glk | | |Sun || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Rah | |Mnd || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Mer | |Moo Mar || | |Ket GL || | |AL || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||HL | |Asc Jup |Ven Sat || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ - cynthia novak gjlist Monday, March 04, 2002 5:29 AM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee Dear Chris and allI have not been able to find his birth data.Hopefully, one of our Indian colleagues will be willing to share it with us.Waiting in Texascynthia-Christopher Kevill <ckevill (AT) interlog (DOT) com><gjlist>; <gjlist>Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:02 PM[GJ] PM Vajpayee> Cynthia,>> As India is a parliamentary system, it's the PM. So Vajpayee is your man.> Speaking of which, does anybody have his data handy?>> Chris>> At 11:41 AM 3/3/02 -0600, cynthia novak wrote:> > Dear Learned Listers When it comes to power in India, who is the> >leader? Is it the president Narayanan or is it the Prime Minister> >Vajpayee? Or, is it another that I do not know. Thank You Cynthia> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to the >>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> : gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com>>> Your use of Groups is subject to >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 That puts his lagna exactly on that Mercury and the axis. Thank you for the time correction. cynthia - Nandini Dozers <nandini_dz <gjlist> Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:41 PM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee > Dear list, > I want to give you that the date of birth details of PM Vajpayee. > DOB 24-NOV-1924. > TOB 5-45AM > POB- GWALIOR(M.P) > With Regards > Rajesh Agarwal > > > > > _______________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Dear Cynthia & list, The date, Dec. 25 is perfect - his birthday is officially celebrated on Dec. 25. I have taken the time from Sanjay Rath's book - Upadesa Sutras. [ In his other book, COVA. the time is mentioned as 5.02AM] Official date is Dec. 25, 1924, Cynthia, I have been following his career since 1964, when he had addressed a political rally held in my school grounds - I was impressed by his oratory and knowledge. Yes - he is wise, learned, a poet, a statemanand the most rational leader in his party and certainly one of the tallest leaders in Indian politics. If any one wants to verify his d-o-b, here are some dates & other info from official web-site. Prime Minister of India SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE [bHARATIYA JANATA PARTY - LUCKNOW (UTTAR PRADESH)] Prime Minister's Office Father's Name Shri Krishna Bihari Vajpayee Date of Birth 25 December 1924 Place of Birth Gwalior (Madhya Pradesh) Marital Status Unmarried Educational Qualifications M.A. (Political Science) Educated at Victoria (now Laxmibai) College, Gwalior (Madhya Pradesh) and D.A.V. College, Kanpur (Uttar Pradesh) Profession Journalist and Social Worker Permanent Address A-302, Laplaz, Lucknow (Uttar Pradesh) Tel. (0522) 220909 Present Address 7, Race Course Road, New Delhi-110011 Tel. (011) 3018939, 3011156 Fax. (011) 3019545 Positions Held 1951 Founder-Member, Bharatiya Jana Sangh (B.J.S) 1957 Elected to 2nd Lok Sabha 1957-77 Leader, Bharatiya Jana Sangh Parliamentary Party 1962 Member, Rajya Sabha 1966-67 Chairman, Committee on Government Assurances 1967 Re-elected to 4th Lok Sabha (2nd term) 1967-70 Chairman, Public Accounts Committee 1968-73 President, B.J.S. 1971 Re-elected to 5th Lok Sabha (3rd term) 1977 Re-elected to 6th Lok Sabha (4th term) 1977-79 Union Cabinet Minister, External Affairs 1977-80 Founder- Member, Janata Party 1980 Re-elected to 7th Lok Sabha (5th term) 1980-86 President, Bharatiya Janata Party (B.J.P.) 1980-84, 1986 and 1993-96 Leader, B.J.P. Parliamentary Party 1986 Member, Rajya Sabha Member, General Purposes Committee 1988-90 Member, House Committee Member, Business Advisory Committee 1990-91 Chairman, Committee on Petitions 1991 Re-elected to 10th Lok Sabha (6th term) 1991-93 Chairman, Public Accounts Committee 1993-96 Chairman, Committee on External Affairs Leader of Opposition, Lok Sabha 1996 Re-elected to 11th Lok Sabha (7th term) 16 May 1996 -31 May 1996 Prime Minister of India; Minister of External Affairs and also incharge of Ministries/Departments of Chemicals and Fertilizers, Civil Supplies, Consumer Affairs and Public Distribution, Coal, Commerce, Communications, Environment and Forests, Food Processing Industries, Human Resource Development, Labour, Mines, Non-Conventional Energy Sources, Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension, Petroleum and Natural Gas, Planning and Programme Implementation, Power, Railways, Rural Areas and Employment, Science and Technology, Steel, Surface Transport, Textiles, Water Resources,Atomic Energy, Electronics, Jammu & Kashmir Affairs, Ocean Development, Space and other subjects not allocated to any other Cabinet Minister 1996-97 Leader of Opposition, Lok Sabha 1997-98 Chairman, Committee on External Affairs 1998 Re-elected to 12th Lok Sabha (8th term) 1998-99 Prime Minister of India; Minister of External Affairs; and also incharge of Ministries/Department not specifically allocated to the charge of any Minister 1999 Re-elected to 13th Lok Sabha (9th term) 13 Oct.1999- onwards Prime Minister of India and also in charge ofthe Ministries/Departments notspecifically allocated to the charge of any Minister Books Published Lok Sabha Mein Atalji (a collection of speeches); Mrityu Ya Hatya, Amar Balidan, Kaidi Kavirai Ki Kundalian (a collection of poems written in jail during Emergency); New Dimensions of India's Foreign Policy (a collection of speeches delivered as External Affairs Minister during 1977-79); Jana Sangh Aur Musalman; Three Decades in Parliament (Speeches in three volumes); Amar Aag Hai(a collection of poems) 1994; Meri Ekyavan Kavitayen; Four Decades in Parliament (English)-4 Volumes of Speeches in Parliament, 1957-95 Literary, Artistic and Scientific Accomplishments Editor, (i)Rashtra-Dharma-monthly (ii)Panchajanya-weekly;Swadesh and Veer Arjun, both dailies Social and Cultural Activities Member, National Integration Council since 1961; President (i) All India Station Masters and Assistant Station Masters Association, 1965-70; (ii) Pandit Deendayal Upadhyaya Samarak Samiti, 1968-84; (iii) Deendayal Dham, Farah, Mathura, U.P.; and (iv) Janmabhoomi Smarak Samiti, 1969 onwards Special Interests International affairs; uplift of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes; and woman and child welfare Favourite Pastime and Recreation Reading, writing, travelling and cooking Countries Visited Widely travelled; Member, (i)Parliamentary Goodwill Mission to East Africa, 1965;(ii)Parliamentary Delegation to Australia, 1967; European Parliament, 1983; Canada, 1987;(iii) Indian Delegation to Commonwealth Parliamentary Association meetings held in Canada, 1966 and 1994, Zambia 1980, Isle of Man 1984; (iv)Indian Delegation to Inter-Parliamentary Union Conference, Japan, 1974; Sri Lanka, 1975; Switzerland, 1984; (v) Indian Delegation to the UN - General Assembly, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 and 1996; and (vi) Indian Parliamentary Delegation to Bulgaria, 1997; Leader, Indian Delegation to Human Rights Commission Meeting, Geneva, 1993; and Delegation of Standing Committees of External Affairs to Gulf countries- Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait Other Information Participated in Freedom Struggle and went to jail in 1942; detained during Emergency in 1975-77; was awarded Padma Vibhushan by President of India in recognition of his services to the Nation; Conferred, (i)Honorary Doctorate of Philosophy by Kanpur University,1993; (ii) Lok Manya Tilak Puruskar, 1994; (iii) Bharat Ratna Pt. Govind Ballabh Pant Award for Best Parliamentarian, 1994 Attachment: (image/jpeg) pm.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Dear Friends, Maybe this will help. I have a copy of K. N. Rao's "Journal of Astrology" dated January-March 2000. On page 13 in this issue are 2 charts drawn for A. B. Vajpayee (Northern and Southern style charts). The birth data for Mr. Vajpayee is written as follows: A. B. Vajpayee 25 Dec. 1924 5:45:00 Gwalior. An accompanying paragraph includes this information, "Became PM first time on 16/05/1996 to 01/06/1996 and again became PM after the general elections of Feb-March 1998." Note: The "Journal of Astrology" is published "In Association with the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, New Delhi." Internet site: http://www.astropanorama.com Best to all, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dear List, You may try this link for Sanjay ji's analysis of ABVajpayee's chart. http://www.sjvc.org/People/abvajpayee.htm Shailesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dear Shailesh, Thank you for the link to PM Vaypayee's chart by Sanjay. He uses 5.03 am Dec 25 1926 (I think we're at least getting the year right now :-)) but doesn't indicate the source for the time. He does admit that there are 3 different times for him so far. I have to wonder about this time a bit because Sanjay makes a prediction that he would retire in 2001. Not that a wrong prediction means wrong data, but it does weaken one's confidence in it. Chris At 08:07 PM 3/5/02 +0530, Shailesh wrote: > Dear List, You may try this link for Sanjay ji's analysis of >ABVajpayee's chart. http://www.sjvc.org/People/abvajpayee.htm Shailesh > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 I must amend my reference to Vajpayee's birth data; the issue of journal of Astrology was the 2001 issue, not the year 2000 issue, with all other references and quotes I made, being the same. K.N. Rao also thought Vajpayee would retire in 2001. There is a need for careful study of how the leader of a country, much like the father of a family, may alter his natural life course due to influence of the group of people he is leading. Perhaps India's horoscope meshed with Vajpayee's would show the influence of India's horoscope affecting it's leader's destiny, and vice versa, for a better understanding of why he did not retire. He looked somewhat weary when I saw him on TV late last year. His dedication to India probably overrides his concern for himself. Vajpayee's lifetime accomplishments are very impressive. Thanks to Sanjay for writing a fascinating article. Carol In a message dated 3/5/2002 6:31:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, ckevill (AT) interlog (DOT) com writes: I have to wonder about this time a bit because Sanjay makes a prediction that he would retire in 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dear Chris, We still do not have the 'correct' year. The official website of Indian Parliamentarians, which I forwarded to the list, gives the year as 1924. Shailesh - Christopher Kevill gjlist ; gjlist Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:48 PM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee Dear Shailesh,Thank you for the link to PM Vaypayee's chart by Sanjay. He uses 5.03 amDec 25 1926 (I think we're at least getting the year right now :-)) butdoesn't indicate the source for the time. He does admit that there are 3different times for him so far. I have to wonder about this time a bitbecause Sanjay makes a prediction that he would retire in 2001. Not that awrong prediction means wrong data, but it does weaken one's confidence in it.ChrisAt 08:07 PM 3/5/02 +0530, Shailesh wrote:> Dear List, You may try this link for Sanjay ji's analysis of>ABVajpayee's chart. http://www.sjvc.org/People/abvajpayee.htm Shailesh>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> : gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com>>> Your use of Groups is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Check for his correct chart in the books of Shri K.N. Rao. He uses the chart which PM, Vajpayee's family uses and which is also given in Prime Minister's Autobiography. Manoj Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 The period beginning 2nd March, 2002 onwards for A.B. Vajpayee is going to be a tough one and already symptoms are visible. The period beginning 7th April, 2002 is going to be even tougher. Manoj Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Dear All Could someone tell me if you find him to be wise and rational? If his lagna is indeed Jyeshta, I have seen this nak. to be either very wise and learned from life experiences or filled with pain from life's experiences of betrayal. Could anyone give a perspective on this? cynthia - Manoj Kumar <mouji99 <gjlist> Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:55 AM Re: [GJ] PM Vajpayee > The period beginning 2nd March, 2002 onwards for A.B. > Vajpayee is going to be a tough one and already > symptoms are visible. The period beginning 7th April, > 2002 is going to be even tougher. > > Manoj > > > > > Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! > / > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Dear Manoj, Good to hear your thoughts on this topic. May I ask, which data are you using and why? Chris At 12:55 AM 3/6/02 -0800, Manoj Kumar wrote: >The period beginning 2nd March, 2002 onwards for A.B. >Vajpayee is going to be a tough one and already >symptoms are visible. The period beginning 7th April, >2002 is going to be even tougher. > >Manoj > > > > >Try FREE Mail - the world's greatest free email! >/ > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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