Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Dear Debra In my recovery from a brain haemorrhage i am doing fine after 10 months, but i cannot overdue my limitations. At present i can only walk a mile and back in a single day, carry 5 kg for 1 minute but no more than that, do certain readings but not too deep. Support my seating cross leg body on the tip of my 10 fingers, to keep going my 4th chakra, but for only 5 seconds, instead of the 60 i used to do once in a while. I can do a programme on XL but i cannot do a deep reading yet. I can play chess without any problem but i cannot cook yet. I can be very active for 6 hours, reading, writing, watching tv, playing chess when i get the opportunity, but i have to go to sleep afterwards to charge my batteries up again. Speech-wise, i cannot be a DJ yet and i am fairly understood but only when i am fresh (no tired), otherwise, i sound like somebody talking under water. Nevertheless, i think that i can write a little bit about your chart. This is the data. July 28th 1951 Chicago (St Lukes Hospital) Illinois 9:06am (without designation of DST or CDT) **** Lets see. The next stuff is from the GJ programme. There is more but i have shortened it a bit. The Horoscope of DEBRA GJL QUINN--------------------------------According to "Jyotish", the "Light of God"The Vedic System of Astrology revealed byVishnu (Almighty God) to our Forefathersin the beginning of this creation. This document is best viewed in aMono-Spaced (fixed-width) font suchas "Courier" font, at size 12 or less. (Unlike Western Astrology, Vedic uses the actualzodiac. Therefore, planetary positions varyfrom Western Astrology positions by 23 degrees,which often causes a change of sign.) Provided to you by------------------Natabara Das (Vedic Astrologer)Printed on 13/02/2002 at 10:54:42Jyotish software: Goravani Jyotish v2 Based on the data of--------------------28/07/1951, at 09:06:00DST On CDTVedic Astrology Weekday (Sunrise to Sunrise): SaturdayCalendar Weekday: SaturdayLahiri: 23:10:56Chicago State Hospital IL USA87 W 47 41 N 57Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: 6.00 Main Classifications for Debra GJL Quinn--------------------Moon Sign: TaurusRising Sign: LeoSun Sign: CancerMoon Star (Nakshatra): Rohini Pada (Quarter): 1Tithi 11th Tithi-Ekadashi of Waning MoonYoga 11th-VriddhiKaran 51st-Bava The Positions in the Zodiac of the Ascendant,also known as the Lagna, and the Planets,and the Nakshatra (Star) ruling over each."Ret"='retrograde', meaning backwards moving. Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras--------------------Ascendant Leo 20° 28’ PurvaphalguniSun Cancer 11° 30’ PushyaMoon Taurus 12° 46’ RohiniMars Gemini 23° 13’ PunarvasuMercury Leo 7° 58’ MaghaJupiter Pisces 20° 55’ RevatiVenus Leo 20° 54’ PurvaphalguniSaturn Virgo 5° 15’ UttaraphalgunRahu Aquarius 18° 33’ SatabishaKetu Leo 18° 33’ PurvaphalguniUranus Gemini 18° 3’ ArdraNeptune Virgo 23° 48’ ChitraPluto Cancer 25° 50’ Ashlesha Below is a basic description of the maincomponents of your chart. Memorizing these pointsabout your chart will give you the ability todescribe it to any astrologer say at a party, orover the phone. These are the main points thatany Vedic Astrologer would need to know beforediscussing your chart. The zodiac is a belt ofstars that surrounds the equator of the Earth andis divided into twelve major divisions of spaceeach being 30 degrees of the total 360 degrees ofspace surrounding the Earth. At the time you wereborn, one of these twelve signs was visible inspace on the Eastern Horizon from the place youwere born. This "rising sign" sets up the basicstructure of your chart and is very important. Itis a physical fact that the exact zodiac signspecified in your Vedic chart was actually risingon the Eastern Horizon as seen from the city ofyour birth. Also, the positions of the planetsgiven in your chart were actually exactly wherethe planets were at the time of your birth.Counting the zodiac signs from your rising signsets up the houses of the chart. Each sign isruled by one of the planets, who is then calledthe lord of that sign. Since each sign is intheir order one of the houses then each planetbecomes therefore lord of a house. Actually, mostplanets rule two houses each, except the Sun andthe Moon, which rule only one each. Each housestands for different affairs of life, and the lordof the house carries that aspects of life with itwherever it has gone to in the chart. Forexample, the lord of the 9th house carries with itthe ability to grant fortunes, so the house itgoes to in any chart is greatly benefited.Therefore, if the lord of the 9th house is in your2nd house, which rules your bank balancesituation, then it grants an increase in fortunethere, meaning it is a good placement for wealth.Now let's list out your basic placements: You have Leo rising. This is also called "yourAscendant" or "your rising sign", and in India it iscalled your "lagna" pronounced "lug-na". Since the signsalways proceed in a set order from the rising sign, youthus have Virgo in your 2nd house, Libra in your 3rdhouse, Scorpio in your 4th house, Sagittarius in your 5thhouse, Capricorn in your 6th house, Aquarius in your 7thhouse, Pisces in your 8th house, Aries in your 9th house,Taurus in your 10th house, Gemini in your 11th house, andCancer in your 12th house. The Sun is in the 12th house, in Cancer.The Moon is in the 10th house, in Taurus.Mars is in the 11th house, in Gemini.Mercury is in the 1st house, in Leo.Jupiter is in the 8th house, in Pisces.Venus is in the 1st house, in Leo.Saturn is in the 2nd house, in Virgo.Rahu is in the 7th house, in Aquarius.Ketu is in the 1st house, in Leo. Sun is lord of the 1st house and is in the 12th.Mercury is lord of the 2nd house and is in the 1st.Venus is lord of the 3rd house and is in the 1st.Mars is lord of the 4th house and is in the 11th.Jupiter is lord of the 5th house and is in the 8th.Saturn is lord of the 6th house and is in the 2nd.Saturn is lord of the 7th house and is in the 2nd.Jupiter is lord of the 8th house and is in the 8th.Mars is lord of the 9th house and is in the 11th.Venus is lord of the 10th house and is in the 1st.Mercury is lord of the 11th house and is in the 1st.Moon is lord of the 12th house and is in the 10th. Amen and etc. **** Now lets have a practical reading. and you wrote <<Maybe these facts will help: Divorced 07/03/74 Married 11/29/75 Daughter 09/19/76 Attacked 08/29/84 Son 07/03/85 Father's death 12/10/91 Bacterial Spinal Meningitis 9/23/96 Moved 04/14/2000>> **** According to your vedic horoscope, you were born under the main planetary period of the Moon which ended in 27 June 1959. Afterward that date we can follow the other dasas or main planetary periods because they are constant always for every chart. Once i get better, with more energies than now, i will put a web page on with the help of a friend computer wizard. My idea is to put on it 9 tables programed in XL, giving the antaras for each of the 9 planets, providing all its antaras for 120 years. At present i have them but each one is more than 1 megabit in memory size. The student of astrology has to put only the date of birth and the date for the befinning of the dasas, and in a second, all the antaras are giving in dates for their beginning and end, plus the age of the native. With this programe you will save a lot of time. Once you print it. You can write beside those dates, your biography and study which antaras, buktis and dasas, or main planetary periods, sub-periods, and sub-sub-periods, were rulinhgh your life. Vedic astrology is made simple in this way. Meanwhile i write here the dates when your dasas started. Moon ended on 27 June 1959. Mars ended on 27 June 1966. Rahu ended on 27 June 1984. Jupiter ended on 27 June 2000. Saturn will end on 27 June 2019. Each of those main periods are divided in 9 buktis or planetary sub-periods, giving one bukti to each planet. The order of the buktis follows always the order of the constellations and their rulers. And they start with their dasa lord ruler. The antaras or sub-sub-periods follow the same order. Thus you can see that the planetary periods start always like Saturn-Saturn-Saturn. Or to economise, SaSaSa. Then it goes like this SaSaSa SaSaMe SaSaKe SaSaVe SaSaSu SaSaMo SaSaMa SaSaRa SaSaJu Then the next cycle will start like MeMeMe **** divorced July/03/74. At the time, you were under the dasa of Rahu, (or RaMe Me) and Rahu is in your 7th house. This house represents marriage life, spouse, partner, relationships etc. Rahu in the 7th gives the tendencies to break the indications of that house. A divorce under Rahu dasa and having Rahu in the 7th, is not a surprise. However, lets stick to the vedic astrological rules. 1. To see the tendencies from a Dasa, study the houses ruled by the planet ruling the dasa. 2. To see the tendencies from a bukti, study the location of the planet ruling the bukti. 3. To see the tendencies from the antara, study the houses ruled by the planet ruling the antara and its location. Very simple but it may require some practice to understand this concept. So we say that on July/03/74 you were in the Rahu dasa. Remember that for dasas we study the owned or ruled houses of the dasa lord. Here we have Rahu dasa. And which houses are ruled by Rahu?. None according to Parasara and Aquarius according to Jaimini. So what to do? I f i say take Aquarius for Rahu, some astrologers may cough at me, but i do not care because 1. my moon is in Taurus. 2. I am mexican. and 3 i have 32 years studying astrology and therefore i know what i am doing. I will listen to fair arguments but i will not deal with time wasters. Jaimini to me is also vedic although he may be controversial to some followers of vedic astrology. So, for your rahu dasa you study the 7th house which is ruled by rahu. You were in the Mercury bukti. By location, Mercury is in the 1st house. This house deals with yourself. You were in the Mercury antara. By ownership, Mercury rules the 2nd (family and assets) and 11th (spouse from a previous life. Because the 11th is the 7th from the 5th, house which rules previous life). By location, Mercury in the 1st house, indicates your well being. So we can say that with that divorce you cut the a karmic link from a previous life and you became free from that karma. Married 11/29/75. You were in Rahu dasa (RaMeRa). The 7th house we say rules married life, spouse. Mercury bukti. Mercury is in the 1st house, therefore look at the indications of the 1st house. External personality, well being. Rahu antara. We look at his ownership and location which we have already covered because we look at the 7th house. So, the indications for this marriage are given by the planetary periods. Daughter 09/19/76. RaMeSa. Rahu dasa already covered. Mercury bukti already covered. Saturn antara. By ownership Saturn rules Capricorn and Aquarius or your 6th and 7th houses. Those houses have nothing to do with children but look that Saturn is aspecting Jupiter (in opposite house). And Jupiter is the ruler of the 5th house, the house indicating children. When studying the location of a planet, it is a primary concern. In a secondary concern are the aspects of the planet which i did not mention before to avoid too much information. Because every planet (except Ketu) aspect the opposite house, here in your chart we see Saturn aspecting the 8th house and Jupiter in that house. In this way we can see a sambhanda (relationship) between Saturn, the owner of the 6th and 7th houses and Jupiter, the owner of the 5th and 8th houses. Attacked 08/29/84. You were in JuJuJu. Here we have that Jupiter rules the 5th and 8th and is in the 8th house. Even when Jupiter aspects 5/7/ and 9 houses from himself, or your 12, 2 and 4th houses, none of those houses relate to attacks. Only perhaps your 4th house which is ruled by Mars may be related to attacks, because of his karakahood (natural indications). Also for attacks i take the 3rd house which is the 10th (karma or activities) from the 6th house, house of open enemies. Or the 9th house which is the 10th (karma or activities) from the 12th house, house of hidden enemies. Both of those houses are ruled by Venus and Mars and therefore not involved in this attack, dasas-wise. For this i would go to the transits. According to that date, Mars was opposite to your Moon and therefore by transit, the attack could have been predicted in a way but i am not satisfied with that and a further study will be needed. Son July/03/85. Here you were in JuJuKe. Jupiter rules the 5th house and 8th. The 5th house rules children and therefore this dasa is clear in regard to the birth of your son. Jupiter bukti. Jupiter is in the 8th but himself is the karaka (natural indicator) for children. Ketu antara. Look at the ownership of Ketu which according to Jaimini rules Scorpio or your 4th house. By location, Ketu is in the 1st house, house of well being. Father's death Dec/10/91. JuKeRa. Jupiter dasa. Jupiter rules the 5th (love and affection) and the 8th (death, inheritances, the end of things). Ketu bukti. Ketu is in the 1st house. Your well being was shattered by this incident. Rahu antara. By ownership, Rahu rules your 7th house and by location, Rahu is in the 7th as well. Sso around this date, the indications of the 7th house were very prominent to you. Here we enter the realm of the naksatras. Rahu is strong by being in his own naksatra but unfortunately for people that have their natal moon in naksatras ruled by the moon, Rahu is the ruler of the 3rd naksatra. The 3rd naksatra is cruel and malefic. By ownership, in general, the ruler of the 3rd naksatra is bad to the native. And by location, planets in the 3rd naksatra are bad. So here in your chart we have the example that Rahu is somehow bad by ruling the 3rd naksatra and by being in the 3rd nakstra. therefore, cruel results are expected during the Rahu's periods. Bacterial Spinal Meningitis 9/23/96. JuMoMe. Jupiter dasa. Jupiter rules the 5th (previous life) and 8th (the end of things). This life, this horoscope is based on activities done in previous life. Willing or unwilling, directly or indirectly, we become involved in some events that can be beyond our control. Unfortunately, we have to pay for every karma. Therefore, because the 5th house is involved here, we can say clearly that this illness is related to a karmic payment. The good news is that what you have suffered until now, it is going to be deducted from your next life. Moon bukti. The moon is in the 10th house which is related to karma. Mercury antara. Mercury rules the 2nd and 11th house. The 2nd is the 10th house from the 5th or your karma in previous life. The 11th is the 7th house from the 5th or your spouse in previous life. Therefore, i would say that here we have a karma connected with your profession, karma or deeds and spouse from previous life. By location Mercury is in the 1st house. This combination indicates how yourself was attacked by this illness because the illness somehow appeared in this antara. Furthermore, i have mentioned in my past email that your 1st house is under papakartari yoga and therefore your personality is prone to suffer. Moved 04/14/2000 . JuRaMo. By this i understand that you have moved house or location. Jupiter dasa. Jupiter rules the 5th and 8th houses. This last house rules the end of things which could be connected to the end of living in a location. Rahu bukti. Rahu is in the 7th house and we already saw how Rahu can be cruel, but it can give a lot of pressure or challenges. Psychologists rated the moving of a house as an activity giving a high stress. Moon antara. By ownership, the moon rules the 12th house, house of losses. Perhaps here we can see the loss of a location. By location, the moon is in the 10th house but aspecting the 4th house. We have seen how aspects play a secondary role in events but nevertheless, the 4th house rules home. Moving home is here seen with this date. Well Debra, i hope that all this can help you and other students of vedic astrology to see one of the many perspectives of vedic astrology. Questions are welcome Best wishes Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 Dear Natabara, It is amazing how you can come up with this level of insight into a chart while suffering so much. I just want to let you know that I deeply admire and respect your determination. Best wishes for a speedy recovery, K. In my recovery from a brain haemorrhage i am doing fine after 10 months, but i cannot overdue my limitations. At present i can only walk a mile and back in a single day, carry 5 kg for 1 minute but no more than that, do certain readings but not too deep. Support my seating cross leg body on the tip of my 10 fingers, to keep going my 4th chakra, but for only 5 seconds, instead of the 60 i used to do once in a while. I can do a programme on XL but i cannot do a deep reading yet. I can play chess without any problem but i cannot cook yet. I can be very active for 6 hours, reading, writing, watching tv, playing chess when i get the opportunity, but i have to go to sleep afterwards to charge my batteries up again. Speech-wise, i cannot be a DJ yet and i am fairly understood but only when i am fresh (no tired), otherwise, i sound like somebody talking under water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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