Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Natabara Here is the quick and dirty way Add 7 degrees to your Tropical planet then subtract 1 sign or, merely subtract 23 degrees from the placement that is over 23 degrees. It might be off by minutes and if that is significant then use the longer format. c - natabara GJlist Friday, February 08, 2002 3:54 PM [GJ] ASLESHA 1 Dear April, Perhaps the following can help. ****** How To Convert Your Moon Sign From Western Astrology into Vedic Astrology If you already have your western horoscope, you can convert it into a Vedic horoscope by following some simple rules. Western astrology follows the tropical zodiac and Vedic astrology follows the sidereal zodiac. Around the year 285 AD, both zodiacs were together at 0° of Aries. Since then, because of the precession of the equinoxes, there is now a difference of more than 23° between both zodiacs. That difference is called the Ayanamsa. By following Lahiri's Ayanamsa we can convert Western horoscopes into Vedic ones by moving back the position of the ascendant and the planets. Table 1: Lahiri's Ayanamsa 1900 22°28' 1960 23°18' 1910 22°36' 1970 23°27' 1920 22°45' 1980 23°35' 1930 22°53' 1990 23°43' 1940 23°01' 2000 23°51' 1950 23°10' On average, the Ayanamsa moves backwards around 50" (seconds) of arc per year. By following the table above, you can estimate 1' (minute) per year to arrive at the Ayanamsa for your year of birth. For example, if you were born in 1953, go to the nearest year of 1950 and add 3' (1' per year), to the Ayanamsa indicated in the Table 1. You will get 23°13'. Example 1 - Moon position: Western horoscope moon position 27°00' Aries. Subtract 23°13' from Western moon position to calculate Vedic moon position as 03°47' Aries. Example 2 - Moon position and year: Western horoscope moon position: 17°00'. Born in 1966 with tropical moon at 17°00' Libra. To arrive at 1966, 6 needs to be added to 1960, 6' are added to the Ayanamsa (23°18'), the result of which is 23°24'. Take away this Ayanamsa from 17°00' Libra and you get your moon at 23°36' Virgo. How it was done? Because 17° is less than the Ayanamsa of 23°24', we add 30° to 17° and get 47°. Then subtract 23°24', to arrive at 23°36' of Virgo, the sign before Libra. By following Table 2, you can see the sequence of the signs. When the moon position is greater than the Ayanamsa, the sign will remain the same in the conversion from the Tropical to the Sidereal zodiac. When the moon position is less than the Ayanamsa, you have to adjust to the sign before. ****** Western astrology follows the planets in the tropical sky. However, vedic astrology follows the same planets but in the sidereal sky. How to understand this difference. There are few ways but perhaps you can get the idea with the following explanation. In some western magazines, you may read that Saturn is today in Gemini, but if you have some knowledge of the stars as they look at night, you can see in the nught at the sky and see that Saturn is not in gemini but in Taurus. The real sky at night as it is, is the so called sidereal sky. The planets as given by the western ephemeris are computed for the tropical sky, or the imaginary line drawn around the earth, just like we csan draw an imaginary line on the glass of a green house. The difference between the skies may not be huge at present but the difference is increasing and soon western astrologers are going to start to have problems. Around the year 285 AC, when both skies were together, Ptolomei left good astrological rules for the tropical sky, but with the difference in skies increasing, some of those rules are going to start to cough soon. Best wishes Natabara DasOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Dear Cynthia <<Here is the quick and dirty way Add 7 degrees to your Tropical planet then subtract 1 sign or, merely subtract 23 degrees from the placement that is over 23 degrees. It might be off by minutes and if that is significant then use the longer format.>> me A very practical way to say it. The other way came to me due to my Virgo lagna. <0:)-<<< best wishes Natabara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Dear Natabara. Yes this helps a lot and also the other post on adding 7 degrees and subtracting one sign. Now it is easy. Thanks, April On 08 February 2002 22:54, natabara [sMTP:natabara] wrote: > Dear April, > > Perhaps the following can help. > ****** > How To Convert Your Moon Sign From Western Astrology into Vedic Astrology > > If you already have your western horoscope, you can convert it into a Vedic horoscope by following some simple rules. Western astrology follows the tropical zodiac and Vedic astrology follows the sidereal zodiac. Around the year 285 AD, both zodiacs were together at 0° of Aries. Since then, because of the precession of the equinoxes, there is now a difference of more than 23° between both zodiacs. That difference is called the Ayanamsa. By following Lahiri's Ayanamsa we can convert Western horoscopes into Vedic ones by moving back the position of the ascendant and the planets. > > Table 1: Lahiri's Ayanamsa > > 1900 22°28' 1960 23°18' > > 1910 22°36' 1970 23°27' > > 1920 22°45' 1980 23°35' > > 1930 22°53' 1990 23°43' > > 1940 23°01' 2000 23°51' > > 1950 23°10' > > On average, the Ayanamsa moves backwards around 50" (seconds) of arc per year. By following the table above, you can estimate 1' (minute) per year to arrive at the Ayanamsa for your year of birth. For example, if you were born in 1953, go to the nearest year of 1950 and add 3' (1' per year), to the Ayanamsa indicated in the Table 1. You will get 23°13'. > > Example 1 - Moon position: Western horoscope moon position 27°00' Aries. > > Subtract 23°13' from Western moon position to calculate Vedic moon position as 03°47' Aries. > > Example 2 - Moon position and year: Western horoscope moon position: 17°00'. Born in 1966 with tropical moon at 17°00' Libra. To arrive at 1966, 6 needs to be added to 1960, 6' are added to the Ayanamsa (23°18'), the result of which is 23°24'. Take away this Ayanamsa from 17°00' Libra and you get your moon at 23°36' Virgo. > > How it was done? Because 17° is less than the Ayanamsa of 23°24', we add 30° to 17° and get 47°. Then subtract 23°24', to arrive at 23°36' of Virgo, the sign before Libra. > > By following Table 2, you can see the sequence of the signs. When the moon position is greater than the Ayanamsa, the sign will remain the same in the conversion from the Tropical to the Sidereal zodiac. When the moon position is less than the Ayanamsa, you have to adjust to the sign before. > > ****** > > Western astrology follows the planets in the tropical sky. However, vedic astrology follows the same planets but in the sidereal sky. > > How to understand this difference. There are few ways but perhaps you can get the idea with the following explanation. > > In some western magazines, you may read that Saturn is today in Gemini, but if you have some knowledge of the stars as they look at night, you can see in the nught at the sky and see that Saturn is not in gemini but in Taurus. > > The real sky at night as it is, is the so called sidereal sky. The planets as given by the western ephemeris are computed for the tropical sky, or the imaginary line drawn around the earth, just like we csan draw an imaginary line on the glass of a green house. > > The difference between the skies may not be huge at present but the difference is increasing and soon western astrologers are going to start to have problems. > > Around the year 285 AC, when both skies were together, Ptolomei left good astrological rules for the tropical sky, but with the difference in skies increasing, some of those rules are going to start to cough soon. > > Best wishes > > Natabara Das > > << File: ATT00021.html >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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