Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 om gurave namah ------------------------ Dear Ron, Very interesting work indeed. can you attach the chart data for JFK and hiws assacination. I guess you are using the Tajaka astamsa. In Tajaka, the square is a "GOOD" aspect, among the best unlike western astrology. A lot depends on the degrees of planets involved as to whether it is Itthasala or Easarpa Yoga. These transits are vital. For example lets say a person has a planet at 29 degrees of taurus, then the transiting Rahu into Taurus will prove to be very good with matters associated with that planet till it crosses over. Thereafter till rahu crosses to 28 degrees, the easarpa yoga prevails. Thus, if Sateesh is using degress, I am not sure what hits mean. I hope it is in these lines. if it is different, please ignore this. The transits you used in JFK's charts, did you use these degrees and orbs or was it just Rasi transit. In fact te use of D-charts for transits is an integral part of Brighu Gochar and it is delightful to see your research in this line. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "Ron Day" <ronday_au <gjlist> Saturday, February 09, 2002 6:12 AM Re: [GJ] True/Mean Rahu experiment Dear Robert , Thank you for your insights on the nodes. One way I have tried to test the nodes is to use transiting varga degrees of the true and mean nodes. Eg using the D8 for death. Take the D8 transit positions of true and mean nodes and then overlay these to the natal chart. There is usually quite a difference between D8 true and mean node. Eg J.F Kennedy--- At death the transiting D8 true nodes were at 29Sg20 . This is trine the natal Ju/Me/Ma conjunction and square ascendent. Fits very nicely. Not much happening with the transit D8 mean nodes. With other charts,most of the action happens with the transit D8 mean nodes. I think this method is useful for research but there may be unknown parameters that need to be considered. Regards Ron --- "Robert A. Koch" <rkoch wrote: > Dear Jyotishis, > > By definition, the nodes should always be > retrograde, as per Parasara, and > thus the definition itself disqualifies the use of > True nodes. There is no > doubt, however, that events can be equated with the > transiting stationary, > or forward motions of Rahu, as has been my > experience also. Still, the use > of rashi dasas absolutely requires the Mean nodal > positions. You will > see, for example, when calculating the Narayana dasa > of various varga > charts, that the position of Ketu in the wrong sign, > will alter the > sequence of the dasa. When that happens, obviously, > the entire dasa is > off. In varga charts, the nodes will frequently > change signs in > accordance with whether True or Mean are used. > Thus, my recommendation is > this: experiment with True and Mean nodes with > transits: but *always* use > the Mean nodes with Rashi dasas, or in any dasa > systems in which the > position of Ketu in a sign, alters the sequence of > the dasa. > > Best wishes, > Robert > > ===================================== > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA > Phone: 541-318-0248 > visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail > rk. rk and > rkoch rkoch > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Dear Robert Koch and others, Sigh. So, for the last four years since I have started to study, I have had the nodes in the wrong house and the dashas were incorrect, also. No wonder so many things made no sense. I'll look over everything with new eyes. My Mercury is very weak. That's probably why. Darn. Thank you, Chris Hanlon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Dear Sanjay, > Very interesting work indeed. can you attach the > chart data for JFK and hiws assacination.< 29 May 1917 3pm TZ 5 Brookline MA Asc 27Vi17 Lahiri Death 22 Nov 1963 >I guess you are using the Tajaka astamsa.< Yes > The transits you used in JFK's charts, did you use these degrees and orbs or was it just Rasi transit. In fact te use of D-charts for transits is an integral part of Brighu Gochar and it is delightful to see your research in this line.< The idea will be to use tajika aspects or degree connections of the transiting D8 mean and true nodes to relevant planets, points and sahams in the natal chart. Transit D8 nodes can also be examined degreewise in the D8 chart also. It will be a matter of synthesising all the data and finding out which contacts count most. At this stage it seems that some charts show more D8 mean node contact and some charts show more true node contact. Maybe the nature of the nodes is to remain elusive! Regards Ron Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 > The idea will be to use tajika aspects or degree connections of the transiting D8 mean and true nodes to relevant planets, points and sahams in the natal chart.< To expand on this a little. The normal tajika aspects such as conjunction,opposition,square,trine and sextile would be used but the orb would be 1 or 2 degrees. The closeness of the aspect is more important than whether the planet is applying or separating to any planet or point. To do this research properly for the event of death, the aspects of transit D8 mean and true node would need to be checked against relevant planets,cusps,sahams,prior eclipses,prenatal eclipses,eclipses in progression ,lunations etc in rashi and D8 chart. Regards Ron Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ----------- Dear Ron, I don't agree that the orb should be lestened, however as i think your pointing at, the influence would be stronger the closer the orb. No doubt exact 1 degree orbs, will show that the effects of the graha will come instantly, and this could be checked in the Monthly Chart before JFK's assasination. But i guess you allready thought of that. Best wishes, Visti. --- Ron Day <ronday_au wrote: > > The idea will be to use tajika aspects or degree > connections of the transiting D8 mean and true > nodes > to relevant planets, points and sahams in the natal > chart.< > > To expand on this a little. The normal tajika > aspects > such as conjunction,opposition,square,trine and > sextile > would be used but the orb would be 1 or 2 degrees. > The closeness of the aspect is more important than > whether the planet is applying or separating to any > planet or point. > > To do this research properly for the event of death, > the aspects of transit D8 mean and true node would > need to be checked against relevant > planets,cusps,sahams,prior eclipses,prenatal > eclipses,eclipses in progression ,lunations etc in > rashi and D8 chart. > > Regards > Ron > > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! > http://greetings. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya Dear Ron Thanks for the info. Capricorn (movable sign - southern direction) in 3rd from AL aspected by the Sun..gunshot. Rahu aspects 8th from AL Mars is tooo strong an influence on the 8th from lagna and AK. fits well. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/ Ron Day [ronday_au] Monday, February 11, 2002 2:57 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] True/Mean Rahu experiment Dear Sanjay, > Very interesting work indeed. can you attach the > chart data for JFK and hiws assacination.< 29 May 1917 3pm TZ 5 Brookline MA Asc 27Vi17 Lahiri Death 22 Nov 1963 >I guess you are using the Tajaka astamsa.< Yes > The transits you used in JFK's charts, did you use these degrees and orbs or was it just Rasi transit. In fact te use of D-charts for transits is an integral part of Brighu Gochar and it is delightful to see your research in this line.< The idea will be to use tajika aspects or degree connections of the transiting D8 mean and true nodes to relevant planets, points and sahams in the natal chart. Transit D8 nodes can also be examined degreewise in the D8 chart also. It will be a matter of synthesising all the data and finding out which contacts count most. At this stage it seems that some charts show more D8 mean node contact and some charts show more true node contact. Maybe the nature of the nodes is to remain elusive! Regards Ron Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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