Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dear Nicholas, Thank you! EN-GB"> Thanks for your help. Yes, there seems to be some different opinions on judging which house suits better a determined affair. I agree with you about the 9th for the judge, but I read somewhere that the 10th could also be taken into account, reason why I asked for help, because in case where 9th and 10th having different dispositors, placed in different houses, etc, causes some difficulties in interpreting. EN-GB"> I thank you so much for your attention, EN-GB">Best wishes, Lucia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------- Dear Lucia, 9th and Jupiter/Sag, for one who upholds Dharma and hence also Law. Long term education? Primary Education is seen from 4th house. If we work hard(6th) we can goto higher educations(6th from 4th is; 9th). The details of what we do in the higher educations is seen from Chathurthamsa(D-24), and best messured(my experience) through Narayana Dasa, whilst the experiences that affect the person is seen from Vimshottari Dasa. Best wishes, Visti. --- Lucia Do Vale <luciadovale wrote: > Dear Sirs, > Tahnk you! > > Someone sent to my mail the 6th house for > servants, but I am still missing the meaning for a > Judge in the Rasi chart (would that be the 10th or > 9th?), and also if the 3rd or 5th for long term > education, considering that the 9th is taken for > superior studies. Thank you. > Your faithfully, Mrs Lucia do Vale > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dear Visti, Just one more question, if you do not mind of course. When talking about education and you mentioned "mesuring" you said Narayana Dasa, is it the same as Chara Dasa? If so, shall I read and interpret it the same way as Vimshottari? Thanks again. for that. Best wishes, Lucia. - Original Message ----- "Visti Larsen" <in_joy_i_scream <gjlist> Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:10 AM Re: [GJ] Significators > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------- > Dear Lucia, > 9th and Jupiter/Sag, for one who upholds Dharma and > hence also Law. > > Long term education? > Primary Education is seen from 4th house. If we work > hard(6th) we can goto higher educations(6th from 4th > is; 9th). > > The details of what we do in the higher educations is > seen from Chathurthamsa(D-24), and best messured(my > experience) through Narayana Dasa, whilst the > experiences that affect the person is seen from > Vimshottari Dasa. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > --- Lucia Do Vale <luciadovale wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > Tahnk you! > > > > Someone sent to my mail the 6th house for > > servants, but I am still missing the meaning for a > > Judge in the Rasi chart (would that be the 10th or > > 9th?), and also if the 3rd or 5th for long term > > education, considering that the 9th is taken for > > superior studies. Thank you. > > Your faithfully, Mrs Lucia do Vale > > > > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! > http://greetings. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear All I'll add another piece to the puzzle. I take the 12th house for PhDs. They need to retreat from the world much as one would go to the ashram and devote themselves to a particular study. They must have faith that they will be able to find a position and need to devote themselves to many hours working alone or with a guru. If the 9th house is poor, they struggle because they have no help. An Adhi Pati dharma karma yoga really helps. ps I live with one who has Exalted SAturn in the 4th Cancer lagna and Jupiter with Ketu in the 12th. The notion of looking at the 4th house for education is very far off the mark in my experience. I've had the fortune to read for a number of folks with advanced degrees and many have a strong Rahu union with Moon or Mars or some intense combination to make it through all of the hoops one must jump through. cynthia - Nicholas gjlist Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:33 AM Re: [GJ] Significators Dear Lucia I take 5th for education but it is a long running argument .Many jyotishis take the 4th house .Advanced studies are seen from the 9th house because these require a guru or guru type figure i.e someone very advanced in the discipline.The third house has to do with communication which is how we view the devolopment of children in their early years .So I would correlate this house with early childhood development . 6th for servants . I would take 9th house for judges as he sits in the court as a Guru like figure who all parties have to defer to . This last one is a guess . Hope this helps Nicholas - Lucia Do Vale gjlist Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:33 PM [GJ] Significators Dear Sirs, Tahnk you! Someone sent to my mail the 6th house for servants, but I am still missing the meaning for a Judge in the Rasi chart (would that be the 10th or 9th?), and also if the 3rd or 5th for long term education, considering that the 9th is taken for superior studies. Thank you. Your faithfully, Mrs Lucia do ValeOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear Cynthia, If I might interject here :-) You are absolutely right to assume that 12th is strongly connected with university/college (campus) life. Confinement in any institution is seen primarily from this house...hospitals, army barracks, college campus, boarding school, monastery, ashram, cave etc., are all under the jurisdiction of this house. However one may spend years confined to campus life and still not obtain a degree. On the other hand one may well obtain a PhD without ever being confined to a campus. Albert Einstein is a prime example... Whilst employed at the Swiss Patent Office he completed many publications in theoretical physics. He submitted one of these papers to the university of Zurich to obtain a degree in 1905. In 1908 he sent another paper to the university of Bern and became a lecturer there. >From Aug. 1895 to Apr. 1908 he was in the bhukti of Jupiter in the mahadasa of Venus. Venus moolatrikona is 5th house of the mind (intelligence). Venus is in the constellation of 1st/4th lord Mercury and along with Mercury forms a "shubha kartari yoga" around 9th lord Saturn...who is lord of 9th house of higher education, and dispositor of bhukti lord Jupiter... To my mind, it's not difficult to see the story unfold. Lagnesh Mercury has the 4th as it's moolatrikona sign...obtainment of degree! It is in the constellation of 9th lord Saturn; is involved in kartari yoga with dasa lord Venus who's moolatrikona sign is the 5th house of intelligence...and most significant, is disposited by 10th lord Jupiter in 9th house of higher learning. His career, his occupation revolved around this! In 1914 he was appointed professor at the Kaiser Wilhelm Gesellschaft in Berlin, the highest post that a theoretical physicist could hold in Central Europe. VE/ME/SA I'm presuming as he would likely have taken up his post at the beginning of the year (first semester?). It is documented that, although (from an early age) he excelled in mathematics, he did not do well in his early schooling. Note Ketu in 2nd house of (primary) education whilst 2nd lord is fallen in 6th house of struggles. It is said that (without finishing his secondary education) he failed an entrance exam for a Swiss Institute of Technology. I have been taught, and I have found it to be so in all the charts I've done so far, that the 2nd shows formal (primary/secondary) education; the 4th shows educational degree; the 5th shows intelligence; the 9th shows higher education and the 12th shows campus/boarding school etc. Apologies for the long post :-) Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidya~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gjlist, "cynthia novak" <c.a.novak@w...> wrote:Dear AllI'll add another piece to the puzzle. I take the 12th house for PhDs. They need to retreat from the world much as one would go to the ashram and devote themselves to a particular study. They must have faith that they will be able to find a position and need to devote themselves to many hours working alone or with a guru. If the 9th house is poor, they struggle because they have no help. An Adhi Pati dharma karma yoga really helps.ps I live with one who has Exalted SAturn in the 4th Cancer lagna and Jupiter with Ketu in the 12th.The notion of looking at the 4th house for education is very far off the mark in my experience. I've had the fortune to read for a number of folks with advanced degrees and many have a strong Rahu union with Moon or Mars or some intense combination to make it through all of the hoops one must jump through.cynthia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Lucia, depends on what chart you are talking about. Unless the chart is defined, how are you attempting to define the placement of the various constituent people. is it a Muhurta, prasna or janma Kundali of an employee in the court or is it the chart of a lawyer or a litigant? The Judge has a different meaning for each of these. Fourth is the house of education as per standard canons in Vedic astrology. Others follow fifth as this is the house of knowledge. there are many people with education but with little knowledge and vice versa too. Ninth has to do with higher learning, basically college and post graduate studies. The third has nothing to do with education but with writing skills or such aids that help in the expression of knowledge being the 11th from 5th house.With best wishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com - Lucia Do Vale gjlist Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:29 PM [GJ] Significators Dear Nicholas, Thank you! Thanks for your help. Yes, there seems to be some different opinions on judging which house suits better a determined affair. I agree with you about the 9th for the judge, but I read somewhere that the 10th could also be taken into account, reason why I asked for help, because in case where 9th and 10th having different dispositors, placed in different houses, etc, causes some difficulties in interpreting. I thank you so much for your attention, Best wishes, Lucia.Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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