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[Guest guest]

I thought of a few things more I want to say to make things more clear

about the person verse the brain.

 

For example, I can talk to you about Hindu Philosophy right?

 

I can express my belief in it, and talk all about it, and all of that is

real to me.

 

I normally feel fine in my skin, like a normal person, and normally I

see, smell, and hear, what everybody else does.

 

But during a serious attack, one can see, hear, feel and smell things

which are not really there, such as feeling like bugs are crawling on

you or that you are falling and falling and falling although you are

not, and there are no bugs.

 

At the same time as feeling these things, along with say extreme panic,

that same person can simultaneously feel their real self underneath all

that, but is unable to stop these other things, they are actually

working correctly- the nerves are telling you there's bugs and so

on...because those things are firing in the brain, where the problem is.

It's not the sensations, it's just transmitters in the brain misfiring

completely, just like on a bad LSD trip say.

 

So this is how you can know even more that these are chemical problems,

and that they are separate from the person.

 

This is another reason why crazy people seem so confused- it's because

they have two people they can choose from- their real original self- or

their pain self- they want to talk about the pain- but we learn that

doing so makes our lives worse- and we know the ways out- and all of

this makes us unable to speak when we're talked to during an episode- it

chokes you up- you're not sure which to be, how to act, what to say. You

can if you want to "snap out of it" and "pretend" or "maintain"

temporarily. It's like acting. You suppress all the feelings and you act

as you know you would under normal conditions. It's alot like holding in

when you have to go pee (wee wee, urine).

 

You can only do it so long, then you have to let go.

 

But the pain is calling, that other self, real intensely, like waves of

pain roll through you and you want to scream, you feel it very real,

very very real, like real hallucinations, and so to maintain is difficult.

 

Back to about whether it's real or not:

 

Esoterically speaking, or spiritually speaking, since the witness

experiences these things, they are real to them, just as dreams seem

real, and so they suffer for real, and this is another way that negative

karma is delivered to the Jivas deserving certain retributions- simply

through mental disease and mental hallucinations.

 

Similarly, the exposure to the heights of heaven, during the "good"

episodes, is similarly real to the Jiva experiencing them.

 

Experience is really felt. That's the whole point of Maya.

 

It's temporaryness is therefore a requirement, in this way, both pain

and death are simply parts of the learning process, and really, are the

whole point of life, along with feeling the good stuff, both teach us

how to live, and the more we know, the higher we go.

 

Peace, hope it helps understanding how the brain works, and more about

the experience of the soul in human form, I feel extremely insecure

right now for example, but something tells me how to function through

that anyway- a different part of my brain- my stomach is flying as

usual, so I feel like I'm going to puke as usual, and I'm really tense

and shaky, these things are normal during attacks. But I'm still me. I

can still think underneath it all, back in the intelligence, not up

front in the mind.

 

Peace again,

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[Guest guest]

Dear Das,

 

Thank you so much for posting both messages! I agree wholeheartedly with

all that you've said, and have learned from your words about the spiritual

aspects - which I'd wondered about and questioned.

 

Its so sad to me that this society in general is so uninformed about mental

illnesses, and because of this, many reject or are denied proper medical

treatment, due to ignorance, shame, or an absence of support.

 

Kay Jamison had such courage to write her books; which could certainly have

cost her personally, as she was, and continues to be, despite being bipolar

herself, very well respected as a nationally known doctor of psychiatry.

But, she had that courage, and integrity, to risk all of that in the

service of others. You do too.

 

I'm saving both of your posts and plan to share them with many.

 

With great respect and love.