Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 Dear Das, You have a Jack Kerouc talent for writing. Explore it. I love it. Anything in your chart? Robyn - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:44 PM [GJ] Naked men and icey water > > > >When I saw on the net (Goravani site) your lessons and instructions in > Jyotish - I fell on my knees. It was so meaningfull, so deep, so > nourishing..." > > > All credits go to Krishna, Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavatam, Sri Caitanya, and > all the devotees who have labored to preserve and protect the knowledge > divine throughout the ages so that it can reach the likes of me or us. > > And in Sastra, Bhagavatam, we hear Queen Kunti, the mother of the > Pandavas, one of the "Panca Jani" or 5 great woman of Indian history say: > > "Lord, while most pray for relief, I ask you to send me suffering, for > when I suffer, I remember you more clearly, which is my real pleasure" > > Something like that... > > It takes a woman to say the truth. See! > > And again: Most of the big teachers on this list and throughout the real > world of spirit have all suffered or performed austerity to great > degrees. Something to note. > > > In the HK movement, we used to rise at 3:30 and intentionally take a > cold shower. Even in ice water outside at the farms. Trippy. Ice cold > bathing under the stars. Imagine grown men almost naked in the dark > yelling "hare krishna" with alot of SHIVER in their voices. As they > repeat it over and over as if it's saving them from the icey cold water > from under the layer of ice we broke off to get to it. > > Makes the cold temple room you're in a few minutes later seem toasty > warm. Saves on the heating bill. Anything for Krishna! > > Cult? Na. Genious! > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Hi Das and all <<Trippy. Ice cold bathing under the stars. Imagine grown men almost naked in the dark yelling "hare krishna" with alot of SHIVER in their voices. As theyrepeat it over and over as if it's saving them from the icey cold water from under the layer of ice we broke off to get to it.>> me "yelling "hare krishna" with alot of SHIVER in their voices" It can be a nice thing but it is just due to having learned only the beginning of a science. Later on we were given the chance to learn more about it. In the book "The Search for Sri krishna" Srila Sridhara Deva Goswami, writes "In chanting the holy name, there are also four kinds of namabhasa. Namabhasa means a faint connection with the holy name. Namabhasa is neither offense nor service mood, but between the two. Its basis is renunciation, but we must also cast away this indifference and become earnest for serving the name, who is our friend and master. Namabhasa can be classified into four categories".... "Hela is another kind of namabhasa: neglectfully chanting the name. When we are rising from bed in the morning sometimes, we may negligently say "Hare Krishna". In this was we may cast off our indolence. Even there it may be namabhasa. It may liberate us from our present position, but may not give us entrance into Vaikuntha. That is possible only through devotional service." <<Makes the cold temple room you're in a few minutes later seem toasty warm. Saves on the heating bill. Anything for Krishna!>> me i think that such a "saving" is due to a lack of resources or mismanegement. I saw this case of saving on the heating bill in some ashrams, but the reaction to it was to expend more on the health bills, because many devotees were getting ill from cough or flu related illnesses. Also, the lack of sleep due to hearing others coughing or sneezing, was undermining the normal out put of everybody. And what about the Bhaktivedanta manor outside London where the hot water used to be finish after 4 am, after 200+ devotees got a hot shower to get ready for the morning rituals, meditation, class, breakfast and hard work. For those that were late or last, was bad luck. The showers at the farm in France in 1976 were on the cold basement. The cold water was not as bad because the showers were showers that lasted for only 5 to 10 seconds, what was bad was the cold wind coming from the windows without any glass on them, on top of the bathroms. And what about the cold showers in the Amsterdam temple in 1973?. However, when i visited the Amsterdam temple in January 1976, it was in a better building and Lochananda Das, the temple president at the time, provided plenty hot water for all. Ah the old days. Best wishes Natabara das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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