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Hi Everyone

 

I need help. In that I need objective interpretations of my chart regarding

weather or not I should go ahead and have spinal surgery with it's long term

affects.

 

Being fairly new at reading vedic charts, I am having a hard time synthesizing

my own. Reason for asking for objective interpretations. I see a lot but I am

too close to it to put it into proper perspective.

 

I know this is a lot to ask but without holding anyone to their interpretation,

I already know how bad my spine is. I have had 3 prior spinal surgeries and

bacterial meningitis from one.

 

The question now becomes,even though I anatomically need the surgery - should I

have it now? have it at all? or wait until it is severe. Where I would be a

lot weaker and my function would be severely impacted. (Bowel, bladder control

etc etc.)

 

Right now the doctors are saying that my function and pain is moderate to

severe. I can not have any epidural injections for fear of high risk of

Meningitis again. I am fuse from T9 to L4 with rods. Which means I am solidly

fixed from my wing span down to my lower back.

 

If I have the surgery I will be refused with rods down into the middle of my

sacral area from T9 to S4 with bone grafts taken from both of my hips again. I

will loose my flexibility. There is a very high risk of paralyzes, bacterial

spinal meningitis and failure of fusion. My other spinal surgeries that I have

had in the past 9 years took about one year to one and half years to recuperate

from. The doctors are telling me this surgery would be a two year recovery if

it is successful.

 

I have adult scoliosis (corrected curve with rods and bone graphs, 40* at lower

back, 24* at middle of back and 17* at cervical or upper back and neck. I also

have osteoarthritis throughout my body which is complicating matters with my

spine. I also have Atrial Fib and fair health in general.

 

I am prepared to be in a wheelchair ( I was told I would be in one by the time I

was 40) if I have too, but as of now, I do not see myself paralyzed. Actually,

I see myself in the future being up and around conversing and communicating

with people.

 

I really understand the complexity of the situation. So fear not.

 

Any advice would be helpful.

 

July 28th 1951

Chicago, Illinois (St Lukes) hospital

9:06 am*

 

*My mother swears I was born a little after 10am but my birth certificate says

9:06am. I am thinking that at the time in Illinois, at this particular

hospital, birth certificates were adjusted for Daylight Savings Time from the

time on the wall.

 

dqm

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Dear Debra,

 

I am using 9:06 birthtime.

 

Your spiritual warrior Mars AK sure is ringing through your writing even under

such duress that you report to us. Bless you! Even with transiting Sa in Ta

on top of your Moon and natal Sa on the lagna and asp the AK by rasi dristi it

does not diminsh the graced spiriutal power I feel from within you! tSa also

aspects Su and when tSa moves into Gem, he will also asp Leo, so I am wondering

about the timings surgeons are giving you as options for surgery. It appears

hard for quite a while (a couple years based on tSa), but spiritual warriors

know that "hard" is not necessarily "bad" per se. The Divine Clock and Wheel

of Destiny is all about transformation and purification anyway. Do you do any

spiritual practices? Mantras?

 

In jyotish we also know that the 12th house has a lot to do with renunciation of

the material world and Maya. It seems you are learning a lot about those things

this life, with pain. The medical challenges and pain are the medicine too,

albeit challenging. Leo is also A8 & A9, so thru these painful spinal things

you learn about transformation and higher spiritual things, along with the help

of jyotish (Me-Ke).

 

Also, both Su and Ju are in Sarpa drekkena degrees so you are also working with

activation of kundalini even if the boney-spine is challenged with pins. Su is

often indicator of spine. Me-Ke can give the nervous system afflictions too.

 

More to say, but gotta run for now.

Love and blessings,

Tara

ps feel free to e-mail me privately too.

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Dear Tara

 

 

How kind of you to write so warmly. I have printed out your email and am know

going to devour it's information and apply it to my chart.

 

You asked when the doctors wanted to do surgery. The answer is within the next

few months. Actually, the only thing holding up scheduling the surgeries

(there will be two - 10 days apart - posterior and anterior) and hospitalizing

me for 3 weeks or more, is the doctor's insistence on all his patients that

have to have revisions or this kind of surgery outright is a psychological

evaluation; to make sure the patient is well aware of all the risks and the

recuperation time. I have scheduled an appointment (the earliest I could get)

for the 3rd week in February.

 

I have also sent for and received my x-ray films and myleogram films which I am

taking to a pain specialist and a neuro surgeon being that my doctor is a

spinal orthopedist. Actually, he is one of the best in the country. However, I

want to explore every possibility, but quite frankly I don't know why because I

can feel my body and know it's time. Saying that though conflicts with should

I or not.

 

When you talked about tSA and SU and Leo, I understand completely. And you are

correct, I am not so much afraid as I know it will be a long battle - and is

it worth it? Of course I have been told that the battle I am fighting know is

leaving me exhausted and in a great deal of pain that won't have a chance to

get better unless I go ahead with the surgery. Even with al the risks. As my

cousin put it "Your miserable now and will be for the next two years anyway,

you might as well have the surgery and be miserable" Point well taken. I have

been with this orthopedic surgeon for 10 years now and I am very well aware of

his tendency to blame the patient if something doesn't go right only to go back

into surgery and find I wasn't exaggerating at all. My body is having a

difficult time holding the sugeries without failure or bones collapsing and

fracturing even with bone grafts and rods.

 

You asked me if I did any mantras. No, not in the way that you understand. I

would say it is more of an understanding that I have and I know how fortunate I

am compared to so many I see or know. I have good doctors, a family that cares,

fabulous children ( that I defend like a mother Lion) and a loving husband who

works hard and then comes home and does what I can't do. Including the grocery

shopping and cooking.

I was also raised with PMA (Positive Mental Attitude) and that has made me

strong through the years even when things have been emotionally and physically

unbearably bad. I try to be very humanitarian towards others and I reach out

to others to help. My faith also plays a big part.

 

I really do feel that I am fortunate and that I have a purpose. I guess that's

my mantras.

 

Yes, I would love to hear from you again. I look forward to it.

 

dqm

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Namaste Debra,

Prayers and blessings.

Your question is very,very, very serious and delicate.

I strongly urge you to consult your doctors again maybe

with 2nd and 3rd opinions.

This is not a matter to be taken lightly.

I am not sure even this is the right forum. I don't think it is.

Even if astrologer is trained in ayurveda or western medicine,

he/she is not your personal physician and does not have the full

scope of the situation or the expertise to answer properly

and you'll put yourself in harms way.

The opinions and advices you get here maybe conflicting and

confusing if not outright hocus pocus from somebody who

wants to get their two cents in without knowing anything.

One thing i advise is to meditate to calm and clear your

mind so that you can make correct decisions and not be rash.

Hari om and Best wishes

Hari Das

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"Debra Quinn Mehren" <dqm (AT) priority (DOT) com>

<GJLIST (AT) (DOT) com>

[GJ] Objective Interpretation

Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 2:30 PM

Hi Everyone

 

I need help. In that I need objective interpretations of my chart regarding

weather or not I should go ahead and have spinal surgery with it's long term

affects.

 

Being fairly new at reading vedic charts, I am having a hard time synthesizing

my own. Reason for asking for objective interpretations. I see a lot but I am

too close to it to put it into proper perspective.

 

I know this is a lot to ask but without holding anyone to their interpretation,

I already know how bad my spine is. I have had 3 prior spinal surgeries and

bacterial meningitis from one.

 

The question now becomes,even though I anatomically need the surgery - should I

have it now? have it at all? or wait until it is severe. Where I would be a

lot weaker and my function would be severely impacted. (Bowel, bladder control

etc etc.)

 

Right now the doctors are saying that my function and pain is moderate to

severe. I can not have any epidural injections for fear of high risk of

Meningitis again. I am fuse from T9 to L4 with rods. Which means I am solidly

fixed from my wing span down to my lower back.

 

If I have the surgery I will be refused with rods down into the middle of my

sacral area from T9 to S4 with bone grafts taken from both of my hips again. I

will loose my flexibility. There is a very high risk of paralyzes, bacterial

spinal meningitis and failure of fusion. My other spinal surgeries that I have

had in the past 9 years took about one year to one and half years to recuperate

from. The doctors are telling me this surgery would be a two year recovery if

it is successful.

 

I have adult scoliosis (corrected curve with rods and bone graphs, 40* at lower

back, 24* at middle of back and 17* at cervical or upper back and neck. I also

have osteoarthritis throughout my body which is complicating matters with my

spine. I also have Atrial Fib and fair health in general.

 

I am prepared to be in a wheelchair ( I was told I would be in one by the time I

was 40) if I have too, but as of now, I do not see myself paralyzed. Actually,

I see myself in the future being up and around conversing and communicating

with people.

 

I really understand the complexity of the situation. So fear not.

 

Any advice would be helpful.

 

July 28th 1951

Chicago, Illinois (St Lukes) hospital

9:06 am*

 

*My mother swears I was born a little after 10am but my birth certificate says

9:06am. I am thinking that at the time in Illinois, at this particular

hospital, birth certificates were adjusted for Daylight Savings Time from the

time on the wall.

 

dqm

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

: gjlist-

 

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