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dear friends

 

last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not a

healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any extent for

acquiring name and fame.  generally such cross posters wish to show

that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and applause.

 

character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a great

service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my learnt

friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS.  also he is sending the

mail twice in all groups.

 

earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails received

in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in all

groups just to show that he is great.  such cheap tactics are

generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame overnight.

 

one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the divine

science he mastered.

 

hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in doing so,

they themselves can become famous.

 

with best wishes and regards

pandit arjun

 

, Tatvamasi

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Mr. Sharma,

>   

>   It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in

another group in JR.

>   You do not even know that in what context this post was made by

me .

>   My intention was that he should have refused to participate in

TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

>   Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man

and I know nothing

>   .

>   Tatvam-Asi

>   

>  

>

> shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro> wrote:

>  

>

> shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro> wrote:  Fri, 12 May

2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction...

CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> vedic astrology

>

>                                                         .HARE RAM.

>      Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

>                                   I am sorry but it is baseless

and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

>           approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

he say that day?

>           It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

said day.Plz try

>           to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

has Mrityu Yog

>          these days" but he never said about time and date surely

and he opposed

>           strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

(learned person) must

>           give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

natural calamities

>           but also all the astrologers should make a forum

separately for the same

>           purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

country.

>                                  Please do not take it

otherwise.One should always do true

>           criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

with me.Please do

>           forgive me if you find some mistake.

>   

>           With Regards

>           Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>     

>

> Tatvam-Asi <nameisego> wrote:

>   Dear Arjun Ji,

> Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

> A bit curious.

>

> K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the

astrologer's chart.

> And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may

die at predicted time.

>

> Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no

answer to this question.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity

seeker IMHO.

>

>

> panditarjun2004

> wrote:

> dear tatvam ji

>

> since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

> death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

>

> but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his

own

> death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much

so

> that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

curious

> tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

> their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

> channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

>

> in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

> astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds

a

> chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

> predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

> the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

> then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

>

> once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

> tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

>

> 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

> saturn.

> 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

hindered

> or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do

these

> poojas for you.

>

> also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

> and every astrologer to predict general things for the country

like:

>

> 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

> prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> 6. earthquakes rock the country

> 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

himself

> as kalki avataar)

> 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

>

> any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

> without saying.

>

> my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

> general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals

who

> are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they

are

> not going to help the native.

>

> as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict

a

> chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

> displayed by all matured astrologers.

>

> till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

> they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

> incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

> tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

> only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

> predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of

a

> month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

>

> all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

> (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to

help

> the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> >

> > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> >

> > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

> astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

> Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

> chart that he will die.

> > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

> a whole day cov

> ering this non event.

> > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

> ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> >

> > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

> Bhawan seminar

> > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr.

Pramod

> > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

> his analysis

> > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

> discussion in

> > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

> The

> > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

> knowledge

> > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

> status

> > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

sharing

> of

> > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

> sciences,

> > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> > sreeram64@

> >

> > _____

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction

on

> Pramod

> > Mahajan/Doubts

> >

> >

> > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> >

> > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

> with

> > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

> who

> > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> checking

> > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> > wrong).

> >

> > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jyothi

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

> >

> wrote:

> > >

> > > .HARE RAM.

> > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > > Saadar Charan

> > Sparsha!

> > >

> > > He is my second

> Guru

> > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> before

> > while i am resident

> > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > knowledge so a have some

> > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> keep

> > before him.I hope kind

> > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> > reason according to

> > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > predict that this native had a

> > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> house.

> > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> 8th

> > lord sitted in own house,

> > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> 7th

> > lord is in own sign.

> > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> brother?

> > Karak of 3rd house

> > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > house is sitted with Lagan

> > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> Sh.

> > Rao jee through you if

> > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> me.

> > >

> > > With Due Regards

> > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > Mobile-09818310075

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Archives: " on the web.

   

 

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                                                   .HARE RAM.

     Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

                                You are a learned person so i had to send you the previous

                                e-mail.My intention was not wrong towards you truly and why

                                will be?but you could express your feelings to Sh.K N Rao jee

                                personally regarding his  participation in TV show. To say through

                                the public platform and after a long period of said programme can

                                hurt some one undoubtedly.Am i wrong?Sorry to send it another

                                group(JR).

  

                                With Regards

                                Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om > wrote:

  Mr. Sharma,

 

It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in another group in JR.

You do not even know that in what context this post was made by me .

My intention was that he should have refused to participate in TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man and I know nothing

..

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote:

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

shashi shekhar sharma

 

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

vedic astrology

 

..HARE RAM.

Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?

It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try

to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog

these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed

strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must

give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities

but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same

purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.

Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true

criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do

forgive me if you find some mistake.

 

With Regards

Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

 

Tatvam-Asi wrote:

Dear Arjun Ji,

Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

A bit curious.

 

K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart.

And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time.

 

Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO.

 

 

panditarjun2004

wrote:

dear tatvam ji

 

since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

 

but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own

death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so

that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious

tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

 

in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a

chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

 

once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

 

1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

saturn.

2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered

or someone has done blackmagic on you.

4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these

poojas for you.

 

also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:

 

1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

3. heat waves prevails across the country

4. air accidents would claim lives.

5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

6. earthquakes rock the country

7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself

as kalki avataar)

8. country prospers in the field of technology.

 

any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

without saying.

 

my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who

are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are

not going to help the native.

 

as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a

chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

displayed by all matured astrologers.

 

till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a

month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

 

all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

(not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help

the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Sreeram,

>

> what do you mean by cryptic clues?

>

> I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

chart that he will die.

> The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

a whole day cov

ering this non event.

> THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

>

> Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> sreeram srinivas wrote:

> It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

Bhawan seminar

> Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod

> Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

his analysis

> on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

discussion in

> trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

The

> students need to raise to a level through their own research &

knowledge

> application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

status

> through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing

of

> knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

sciences,

> further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

> sreeram64

>

> _____

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

jyothi_b_lakshmi

> Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on

Pramod

> Mahajan/Doubts

>

>

> Hi Shashi Shekhar,

>

> Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

with

> humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

who

> made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

checking

> it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> wrong).

>

> I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

>

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

>

wrote:

> >

> > .HARE RAM.

> > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > Saadar Charan

> Sparsha!

> >

> > He is my second

Guru

> in astrology but like Aacharya

> > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

before

> while i am resident

> > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> knowledge so a have some

> > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

keep

> before him.I hope kind

> > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> reason according to

> > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> predict that this native had a

> > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

house.

> > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

8th

> lord sitted in own house,

> > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

7th

> lord is in own sign.

> > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

brother?

> Karak of 3rd house

> > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> house is sitted with Lagan

> > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> nor the lord of 3rd house

> > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

Sh.

> Rao jee through you if

> > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

me.

> >

> > With Due Regards

> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> Mobile-09818310075

> >

>

>

>

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                                                       .HARE RAM.

       Pandit Arjun jee,

                              If to say truth is the meant of bad karma and to stand against the

                              unduly criticism is meant to gain name and fame overnight through

                              such the cheap tactics.Therefore i leave it to kind God who knows

                              better who is on right path.I did my duty quite truly and sincerely.

  

                              Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:

  dear friends

 

last year also i wrote several times that cross posting is not a

healthy sign and shows that the astrologer can go to any extent for

acquiring name and fame. generally such cross posters wish to show

that they are great and they want greater wider acclaim and applause.

 

character assasination or criticism of a person who has done a great

service to astrology is earning bad karma and i request my learnt

friend shashi sekhar sharma ji to stop posting his difference

against one reading of KNRao in ALL GROUPS. also he is sending the

mail twice in all groups.

 

earlier mr. sharad kotak was posting selective praise mails received

in his personal inbox from his customers and posted them in all

groups just to show that he is great. such cheap tactics are

generally resorted by astrologers who want name and fame overnight.

 

one astrologer shall never criticise another and respect the divine

science he mastered.

 

hope people stop criticising famous astrologers so that in doing so,

they themselves can become famous.

 

with best wishes and regards

pandit arjun

 

, Tatvamasi

wrote:

>

> Mr. Sharma,

>

> It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in

another group in JR.

> You do not even know that in what context this post was made by

me .

> My intention was that he should have refused to participate in

TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man

and I know nothing

> .

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> shashi shekhar sharma

wrote:

>

>

> shashi shekhar sharma

wrote: Fri, 12 May

2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> shashi shekhar sharma

 

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction...

CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> vedic astrology

>

> .HARE RAM.

> Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> I am sorry but it is baseless

and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did

he say that day?

> It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of

said day.Plz try

> to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person

has Mrityu Yog

> these days" but he never said about time and date surely

and he opposed

> strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one

(learned person) must

> give their predictions regarding earthquake or other

natural calamities

> but also all the astrologers should make a forum

separately for the same

> purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the

country.

> Please do not take it

otherwise.One should always do true

> criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree

with me.Please do

> forgive me if you find some mistake.

>

> With Regards

> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>

>

> Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> Dear Arjun Ji,

> Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

> A bit curious.

>

> K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the

astrologer's chart.

> And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may

die at predicted time.

>

> Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no

answer to this question.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity

seeker IMHO.

>

>

> panditarjun2004

> wrote:

> dear tatvam ji

>

> since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

> death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

>

> but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his

own

> death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much

so

> that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

curious

> tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

> their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

> channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

>

> in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

> astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds

a

> chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

> predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

> the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

> then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

>

> once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

> tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

>

> 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

> saturn.

> 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

hindered

> or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do

these

> poojas for you.

>

> also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

> and every astrologer to predict general things for the country

like:

>

> 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

> prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> 6. earthquakes rock the country

> 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims

himself

> as kalki avataar)

> 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

>

> any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

> without saying.

>

> my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

> general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals

who

> are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they

are

> not going to help the native.

>

> as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict

a

> chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

> displayed by all matured astrologers.

>

> till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

> they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

> incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

> tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

> only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

> predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of

a

> month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

>

> all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

> (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to

help

> the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> >

> > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> >

> > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

> astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

> Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

> chart that he will die.

> > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

> a whole day cov

> ering this non event.

> > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

> ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> >

> > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

> Bhawan seminar

> > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr.

Pramod

> > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

> his analysis

> > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

> discussion in

> > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

> The

> > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

> knowledge

> > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

> status

> > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

sharing

> of

> > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

> sciences,

> > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> > sreeram64@

> >

> > _____

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction

on

> Pramod

> > Mahajan/Doubts

> >

> >

> > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> >

> > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

> with

> > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

> who

> > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> checking

> > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> > wrong).

> >

> > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jyothi

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

> >

> wrote:

> > >

> > > .HARE RAM.

> > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > > Saadar Charan

> > Sparsha!

> > >

> > > He is my second

> Guru

> > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> before

> > while i am resident

> > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > knowledge so a have some

> > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> keep

> > before him.I hope kind

> > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> > reason according to

> > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > predict that this native had a

> > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> house.

> > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> 8th

> > lord sitted in own house,

> > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> 7th

> > lord is in own sign.

> > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> brother?

> > Karak of 3rd house

> > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > house is sitted with Lagan

> > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> Sh.

> > Rao jee through you if

> > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> me.

> > >

> > > With Due Regards

> > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > Mobile-09818310075

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Mr. Sharma,

  

  I have not taken up this subject now after many months but you are new to this group and other groups where I had posted my objection on 21st october 2005. (Vedic Astrology).

  

  If Mr. Rao goes public, then I can air my objections in a public forum.

  

  Please do not try to moderate this group.

  

  Tatvam-Asi

 

shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro > wrote:

                                                     .HARE RAM.

     Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

                                You are a learned person so i had to send you the previous

                                e-mail.My intention was not wrong towards you truly and why

                                will be?but you could express your feelings to Sh.K N Rao jee

                                personally regarding his  participation in TV show. To say through

                                the public platform and after a long period of said programme can

                                hurt some one undoubtedly.Am i wrong?Sorry to send it another

                                group(JR).

  

                                With Regards

                                Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om > wrote:

  Mr. Sharma,

 

It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in another group in JR.

You do not even know that in what context this post was made by me .

My intention was that he should have refused to participate in TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man and I know nothing

..

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote:

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

shashi shekhar sharma

 

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

vedic astrology

 

..HARE RAM.

Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?

It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try

to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog

these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed

strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must

give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities

but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same

purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.

Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true

criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do

forgive me if you find some mistake.

 

With Regards

Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

 

Tatvam-Asi wrote:

Dear Arjun Ji,

Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

A bit curious.

 

K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart.

And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time.

 

Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO.

 

 

panditarjun2004

wrote:

dear tatvam ji

 

since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

 

but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own

death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so

that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious

tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

 

in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a

chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

 

once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

 

1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

saturn.

2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered

or someone has done blackmagic on you.

4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these

poojas for you.

 

also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:

 

1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

3. heat waves prevails across the country

4. air accidents would claim lives.

5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

6. earthquakes rock the country

7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself

as kalki avataar)

8. country prospers in the field of technology.

 

any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

without saying.

 

my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who

are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are

not going to help the native.

 

as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a

chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

displayed by all matured astrologers.

 

till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a

month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

 

all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

(not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help

the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Sreeram,

>

> what do you mean by cryptic clues?

>

> I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

chart that he will die.

> The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

a whole day cov

ering this non event.

> THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

>

> Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> sreeram srinivas wrote:

> It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

Bhawan seminar

> Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod

> Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

his analysis

> on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

discussion in

> trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

The

> students need to raise to a level through their own research &

knowledge

> application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

status

> through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing

of

> knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

sciences,

> further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

> sreeram64

>

> _____

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

jyothi_b_lakshmi

> Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on

Pramod

> Mahajan/Doubts

>

>

> Hi Shashi Shekhar,

>

> Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

with

> humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

who

> made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

checking

> it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> wrong).

>

> I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

>

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

>

wrote:

> >

> > .HARE RAM.

> > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > Saadar Charan

> Sparsha!

> >

> > He is my second

Guru

> in astrology but like Aacharya

> > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

before

> while i am resident

> > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> knowledge so a have some

> > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

keep

> before him.I hope kind

> > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> reason according to

> > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> predict that this native had a

> > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

house.

> > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

8th

> lord sitted in own house,

> > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

7th

> lord is in own sign.

> > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

brother?

> Karak of 3rd house

> > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> house is sitted with Lagan

> > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> nor the lord of 3rd house

> > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

Sh.

> Rao jee through you if

> > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

me.

> >

> > With Due Regards

> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> Mobile-09818310075

> >

>

>

>

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                                             .HARE RAM.

         Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

                                    Now i leave this topic but i assured you a day i will be the

                                    moderate of one astrology group.

  

                                    Shashi Shekhar Sharma

                       

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om > wrote:

  Dear Mr. Sharma,

 

I have not taken up this subject now after many months but you are new to this group and other groups where I had posted my objection on 21st october 2005. (Vedic Astrology).

 

If Mr. Rao goes public, then I can air my objections in a public forum.

 

Please do not try to moderate this group.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote:

..HARE RAM.

Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

You are a learned person so i had to send you the previous

e-mail.My intention was not wrong towards you truly and why

will be?but you could express your feelings to Sh.K N Rao jee

personally regarding his participation in TV show. To say through

the public platform and after a long period of said programme can

hurt some one undoubtedly.Am i wrong?Sorry to send it another

group(JR).

 

With Regards

Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

Tatvamasi wrote:

Mr. Sharma,

 

It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in another group in JR.

You do not even know that in what context this post was made by me .

My intention was that he should have refused to participate in TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man and I know nothing

..

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote:

 

 

shashi shekhar sharma

wrote: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

shashi shekhar sharma

 

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

vedic astrology

 

..HARE RAM.

Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?

It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try

to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog

these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed

strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must

give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities

but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same

purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.

Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true

criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do

forgive me if you find some mistake.

 

With Regards

Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

 

Tatvam-Asi wrote:

Dear Arjun Ji,

Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

A bit curious.

 

K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart.

And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time.

 

Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO.

 

 

panditarjun2004

wrote:

dear tatvam ji

 

since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

 

but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own

death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so

that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious

tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

 

in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a

chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

 

once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

 

1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

saturn.

2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered

or someone has done blackmagic on you.

4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these

poojas for you.

 

also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:

 

1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

3. heat waves prevails across the country

4. air accidents would claim lives.

5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

6. earthquakes rock the country

7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself

as kalki avataar)

8. country prospers in the field of technology.

 

any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

without saying.

 

my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who

are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are

not going to help the native.

 

as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a

chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

displayed by all matured astrologers.

 

till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a

month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

 

all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

(not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help

the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Sreeram,

>

> what do you mean by cryptic clues?

>

> I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

chart that he will die.

> The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

a whole day cov

ering this non event.

> THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

>

> Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> sreeram srinivas wrote:

> It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

Bhawan seminar

> Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod

> Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

his analysis

> on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

discussion in

> trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

The

> students need to raise to a level through their own research &

knowledge

> application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

status

> through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing

of

> knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

sciences,

> further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

> sreeram64

>

> _____

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

jyothi_b_lakshmi

> Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on

Pramod

> Mahajan/Doubts

>

>

> Hi Shashi Shekhar,

>

> Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

with

> humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

who

> made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

checking

> it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> wrong).

>

> I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

>

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

>

wrote:

> >

> > .HARE RAM.

> > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > Saadar Charan

> Sparsha!

> >

> > He is my second

Guru

> in astrology but like Aacharya

> > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

before

> while i am resident

> > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> knowledge so a have some

> > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

keep

> before him.I hope kind

> > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> reason according to

> > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> predict that this native had a

> > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

house.

> > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

8th

> lord sitted in own house,

> > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

7th

> lord is in own sign.

> > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

brother?

> Karak of 3rd house

> > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> house is sitted with Lagan

> > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> nor the lord of 3rd house

> > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

Sh.

> Rao jee through you if

> > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

me.

> >

> > With Due Regards

> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> Mobile-09818310075

> >

>

>

>

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Dear friends,

 

I was so close to be tempted to post my two cents on this matter

here, but I respect my elders in life, astrology and my learning path

(the three are one and same, are they not?) but then bit my cyber-

tongue!

 

Because it would have been a greater cyber-sin than crossposting! It

would have been reposting and Reposting and REPOSTING!

 

I will transparently share in a rephrased manner what someone talked

about their teacher:

 

"you are like this! Someone runs into you on a hot summer day and

asks, "Sir, do you know about 69 Pandey Haveli? Where is it and how

does it look like?" You think for a moment seriously and then

say, "Sir, you see that Peepul tree over there? Please climb on it

but be careful of the ants that live on it!" and the *helpful*

informant walks away, smiling to himself.

 

The *querrent* looks strangely at this individual and wonders, "This

guy has got to be crazy! Let me go and ask someone else even though I

do not see anyone on this desolate street on this hot day!"

 

The *crazy* guy pulls the same stunt on another one that asks. This

time the other guy is also crazy or just more open and into

exploration! He climbs the peepul tree, not minding the ants that

crawl up his --- never mind -- not important!"

 

Once there, he actually sees what 69 Pandey Haveli looks like!

Nothing to imagine, just direct experience!!

 

Sometimes when Great Teachers just drop a few hints and do not fully

explain, it is because they do not want to spoon feed us and leave us

with no clue where the next meal is coming to us. They do not fish

for us, but want us to learn how to fish, so that we may feed us

forever! Sorry for this non-vegetarian analogy! I was raised by

Bengalis!

 

RR

 

  , shashi shekhar sharma

<polite_astro> wrote:

>

>                                              .HARE RAM.

>          Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

>                                     Now i leave this topic but i

assured you a day i will be the

>                                     moderate of one astrology group.

>   

>                                     Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>                        

>

> Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>   Dear Mr. Sharma,

>

> I have not taken up this subject now after many months but you are

new to this group and other groups where I had posted my objection on

21st october 2005. (Vedic Astrology).

>

> If Mr. Rao goes public, then I can air my objections in a public

forum.

>

> Please do not try to moderate this group.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> shashi shekhar sharma

> wrote:

> .HARE RAM.

> Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> You are a learned person so i had to send you the previous

> e-mail.My intention was not wrong towards you truly and why

> will be?but you could express your feelings to Sh.K N Rao jee

> personally regarding his participation in TV show. To say through

> the public platform and after a long period of said programme can

> hurt some one undoubtedly.Am i wrong?Sorry to send it another

> group(JR).

>

> With Regards

> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>

> Tatvamasi wrote:

> Mr. Sharma,

>

> It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in

another group in JR.

> You do not even know that in what context this post was made by me .

> My intention was that he should have refused to participate in TV

show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

> Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man and I

know nothing

> .

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> shashi shekhar sharma

> wrote:

>

>

> shashi shekhar sharma

> wrote: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

> shashi shekhar sharma

>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction...

CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

> vedic astrology

>

> .HARE RAM.

> Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

> I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

> approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say

that day?

> It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said

day.Plz try

> to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu

Yog

> these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he

opposed

> strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned

person) must

> give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural

calamities

> but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the

same

> purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.

> Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true

> criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with

me.Please do

> forgive me if you find some mistake.

>

> With Regards

> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>

>

> Tatvam-Asi wrote:

> Dear Arjun Ji,

> Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

> A bit curious.

>

> K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the

astrologer's chart.

> And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may

die at predicted time.

>

> Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no

answer to this question.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity

seeker IMHO.

>

>

> panditarjun2004

> wrote:

> dear tatvam ji

>

> since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

> death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

>

> but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own

> death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much

so

> that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several

curious

> tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

> their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

> channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

> predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

>

> in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

> astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a

> chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

> predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

> the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

> then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

>

> once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

> tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

>

> 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

> saturn.

> 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

> 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is

hindered

> or someone has done blackmagic on you.

> 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these

> poojas for you.

>

> also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

> and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:

>

> 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

> prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

> 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

> 3. heat waves prevails across the country

> 4. air accidents would claim lives.

> 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

> 6. earthquakes rock the country

> 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself

> as kalki avataar)

> 8. country prospers in the field of technology.

>

> any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

> without saying.

>

> my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

> general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals

who

> are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are

> not going to help the native.

>

> as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict

a

> chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

> displayed by all matured astrologers.

>

> till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

> thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

> they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

> incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

> tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

> only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

> predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of

a

> month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

>

> all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

> (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

> negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help

> the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

> >

> > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

> >

> > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

> astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

> Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

> chart that he will die.

> > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

> a whole day cov

> ering this non event.

> > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

> ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

> >

> > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

> Bhawan seminar

> > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod

> > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

> his analysis

> > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

> discussion in

> > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

> The

> > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

> knowledge

> > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

> status

> > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his

sharing

> of

> > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

> sciences,

> > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> > sreeram64@

> >

> > _____

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

> jyothi_b_lakshmi

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction

on

> Pramod

> > Mahajan/Doubts

> >

> >

> > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

> >

> > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

> > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

> with

> > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

> who

> > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

> > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

> checking

> > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

> > wrong).

> >

> > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jyothi

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

> >

> wrote:

> > >

> > > .HARE RAM.

> > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

> > > Saadar Charan

> > Sparsha!

> > >

> > > He is my second

> Guru

> > in astrology but like Aacharya

> > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

> before

> > while i am resident

> > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

> > knowledge so a have some

> > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

> keep

> > before him.I hope kind

> > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

> > reason according to

> > > Vrishabh Lagana.

> > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

> > predict that this native had a

> > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

> house.

> > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

> 8th

> > lord sitted in own house,

> > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

> 7th

> > lord is in own sign.

> > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

> brother?

> > Karak of 3rd house

> > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

> > house is sitted with Lagan

> > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

> > nor the lord of 3rd house

> > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

> > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

> Sh.

> > Rao jee through you if

> > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

> me.

> > >

> > > With Due Regards

> > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > Mobile-09818310075

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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  With regards to all seniors ..

 

  Dear Shashi

 

  You are practising and exploring an interesting science of Jyotish.

  We all need to learn daily as the subject has no limits.

  We need to look at our own Mercury..own Mars...the great Jupiter..

  that we communicate well

  that we conserve the precious energy of our thoughts..mind..time..all for the strong intelect future.

 

  God is great

 

  JYO  

  -

  shashi shekhar sharma

 

  Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:43 AM

  Re: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

 

 

                                                     .HARE RAM.

       Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

                                  You are a learned person so i had to send you the previous

                                  e-mail.My intention was not wrong towards you truly and why

                                  will be?but you could express your feelings to Sh.K N Rao jee

                                  personally regarding his  participation in TV show. To say through

                                  the public platform and after a long period of said programme can

                                  hurt some one undoubtedly.Am i wrong?Sorry to send it another

                                  group(JR).

    

                                  With Regards

                                  Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

  Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om > wrote:

    Mr. Sharma,

 

  It is wrong and IMPOLITE on your part to bring a post made in another group in JR.

  You do not even know that in what context this post was made by me .

  My intention was that he should have refused to participate in TV show as it dealt with a definite death prediction.

  Please do not speak of jelousy. Mr. Rao is such a learned man and I know nothing

  .

  Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

  shashi shekhar sharma

  wrote:

 

 

  shashi shekhar sharma

  wrote: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT)

  shashi shekhar sharma

 

  Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!

  vedic astrology

 

  .HARE RAM.

  Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,

  I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had

  approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?

  It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try

  to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog

  these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed

  strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must

  give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities

  but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same

  purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.

  Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true

  criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do

  forgive me if you find some mistake.

 

  With Regards

  Shashi Shekhar Sharma

 

 

  Tatvam-Asi wrote:

  Dear Arjun Ji,

  Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?

  A bit curious.

 

  K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart.

  And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time.

 

  Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question.

 

  Tatvam-Asi

 

  By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO.

 

 

  panditarjun2004

  wrote:

  dear tatvam ji

 

  since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-

  death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.

 

  but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own

  death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so

  that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious

  tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting

  their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV

  channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death

  predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.

 

  in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any

  astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a

  chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot

  predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against

  the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and

  then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.

 

  once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake

  tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:

 

  1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and

  saturn.

  2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.

  3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered

  or someone has done blackmagic on you.

  4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these

  poojas for you.

 

  also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta

  and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:

 

  1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex

  prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)

  2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states

  3. heat waves prevails across the country

  4. air accidents would claim lives.

  5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.

  6. earthquakes rock the country

  7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself

  as kalki avataar)

  8. country prospers in the field of technology.

 

  any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year

  without saying.

 

  my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving

  general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who

  are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are

  not going to help the native.

 

  as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a

  chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be

  displayed by all matured astrologers.

 

  till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and

  thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami.

  they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the

  incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or

  tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions

  only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person

  predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a

  month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.

 

  all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti

  (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any

  negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help

  the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".

 

  with best wishes

  pandit arjun

 

  vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi

  wrote:

  >

  > Dear Mr. Sreeram,

  >

  > what do you mean by cryptic clues?

  >

  > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village

  astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and

  Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his

  chart that he will die.

  > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted

  a whole day cov

  ering this non event.

  > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC

  ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.

  >

  > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?

  >

  > Tatvam-Asi

  >

  > sreeram srinivas wrote:

  > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya

  Bhawan seminar

  > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod

  > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to

  his analysis

  > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a

  discussion in

  > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption.

  The

  > students need to raise to a level through their own research &

  knowledge

  > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current

  status

  > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing

  of

  > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic

  sciences,

  > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.

  >

  > with regards,

  > sreeram srinivas

  > sreeram64

  >

  > _____

  >

  > vedic astrology

  > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

  jyothi_b_lakshmi

  > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM

  > vedic astrology

  > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on

  Pramod

  > Mahajan/Doubts

  >

  >

  > Hi Shashi Shekhar,

  >

  > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I

  > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and

  with

  > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer

  who

  > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent

  > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without

  checking

  > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go

  > wrong).

  >

  > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.

  >

  >

  > Regards,

  > Jyothi

  >

  >

  >

  > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma

  >

  wrote:

  > >

  > > .HARE RAM.

  > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,

  > > Saadar Charan

  > Sparsha!

  > >

  > > He is my second

  Guru

  > in astrology but like Aacharya

  > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him

  before

  > while i am resident

  > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves

  > knowledge so a have some

  > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to

  keep

  > before him.I hope kind

  > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the

  > reason according to

  > > Vrishabh Lagana.

  > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we

  > predict that this native had a

  > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own

  house.

  > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the

  8th

  > lord sitted in own house,

  > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft,

  7th

  > lord is in own sign.

  > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger

  brother?

  > Karak of 3rd house

  > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same

  > house is sitted with Lagan

  > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak

  > nor the lord of 3rd house

  > > Moon was running at the time of incident.

  > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to

  Sh.

  > Rao jee through you if

  > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive

  me.

  > >

  > > With Due Regards

  > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

  > Mobile-09818310075

  > >

  >

  >

  >

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