Description of the Solar System

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Andrew and List,

I would like to try shed some light on the reason that the trans-saturnian

planets aren't included in analysis of charts acording to vedic lore.

 

In the Srimad Bhagavatam, written by Sage Vysa (also known as VedaVysa), Vysa's

son, describes the entire Universe, called the "Sisumara Chakra". Sisumara

means dolphin, and the name is given as the Universe resembles a coiled

dolphin, whose nose is pointing downwards.

 

The Reference is Canto Five Chapter 19 sloka 29-30:

"Sri Sukadeva Gosvami said: My dear King, in the opinion of some learned

scholars, eight smaller islands surround Jambudvipa. When the sons of Maharaja

Sagara were searching all over the world for their lost horse, they dug up the

earth, and in this way eight adjoining islands came into existence. The names

of these islands are Svarnaprastha, Candrasukla, Avartana, Ramanaka,

Mandara-harina, Pancajanya, Simhala and Lanka."

 

In this description we see 8 islands(planets) orbitting the Sun(Jambu Dweepa).

 

Next in Canto Five, Chapter 20 Sloka 1:

"The great sage Sukadeva Gosvami said: Hereafter I shall describe the

dimensions, characteristics and forms of the six islands beginning with the

island of Plaksa."

 

Now skipping the descriptions of the 6 Islands, heres Sloka 34:

"Thereafter, beyond the ocean of sweet water and fully surrounding it, is a

mountain named Lokaloka, which divides the countries that are full of sunlight

from those not lit by the sun."

 

Sloka 37:

"By the supreme will of Krsna, the mountain known as Lokaloka has been installed

as the outer border of the three worlds--Bhurloka, Bhuvarloka and Svarloka--to

control the rays of the sun throughout the universe. All the luminaries, from

the sun up to Dhruvaloka, distribute their rays throughout the three worlds,

but only within the boundary formed by this mountain. Because it is extremely

high, extending even higher than Dhruvaloka, it blocks the rays of the

luminaries, which therefore can never extend beyond it."

 

Later The Great Sukadeva Gosvami, goes on to describe the entire universe in detail, in Chapter: 23.

 

As VedaVysa was an exponent on the Vedas, and hence fully knowledgeable in Vedic

Lore, no doubt this is why the trans-saturnian planets weren't/aren't considered

by traditions.

 

Theres an online version here: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.com

I recommend reading it, many answers regarding rebirth and the creation are

answered. Its long but worth it.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

p.s. And no, its not the same as the Bhagavad Gita.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

The information provided by you may not necessarily be sufficient for the

exclusion of the outer planets.

 

The stanzas quoted refer to the bharata varsha and the surrounding islands. It

is quite common in India to refer to the Jambudveepe (in the Jambu island) ,

Bharata Varshe (in the Bharata Region) and Bharata Khande (in the Bharata

Continent), while reciting the "sankalpam" before any vedic/agamic ritual, to

describe the location of the religious rite. In USA sankalpam is done as

Jambudveepa, Ramanaka Varsha (in the Ramanaka Region), and Aindra Khanda (in

the Aindra continent). As it is eveident, it is "believed" that earth is the

Jambu island and the varshas (regions are a division of the earth itself).

 

Vedas are limitless and include every scripture under the sun, just as the

Limitless Brahman encompasses every possible concept of God. To the limited

mind, the infinite ocean is finite that can be fitted into a "text" or a

"form". But, such an action does not limit the Limitless in any way.

 

 

Regards,

Arun

[Guest guest]

Vyam vyasa Devaya Namah

 

Dear visti and all,

Of course it is srimadbhagavatam.org and much more friendly. thanks for your guidance.

Perhaps, you all have read " Mysteries of the Sacred Universe by Richard

L.Thompson" . If not please read it for easy understanding. You can see a lot

in

www.sacreduniverse.com

 

Thanks

Karu

 

 

Theres an online version here: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.com

I recommend reading it, many answers regarding rebirth and the creation are

answered. Its long but worth it.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.