Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Dear Tarun, Your point "This point is base on astrological combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical. Just look at the numbers we are talking about. SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that is 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on 7H, it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on 7L (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so. THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only the birth chart(D-1). Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!! Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD NOT DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY?? Incredible!!! It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please qoute your source or reasoning. Best wishes, Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com - tarun chopra gjlist Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!! Dear PraveenIn your chart it is indicating that you will not have any job for long time but some how you will manage and remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some consultancy work, which you will get very soon after two or three months your family will join you.Precaution stop doing any worship activities as this is spoiling your life. Worship and religious activities are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or home there would be a leakage in walls or roof.This point is base on astrological combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or religious activities.In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on Moon, which is lord of seventh house.Your way towards liberation is through karma only as in Geeta it is one of the way to reach GodWish you all the best from meTarun ChopraOn Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote :> Dear Members,>> I need your guidance in this difficult period.>> At present I have been working in Germany as a Software> Professional.> I am facing some problems and shall be highly obliged> for your> valuable guidance.>> My details are as under :->> Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya> Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night)> Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13> Time Zone (+5:30 GMT)>> Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for> another job here. I> would like to know that>> 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany or I> have to> returned back to India?>> 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've joined in> February 2001> and living here alone. What are the chances that my> family will join> me.>> Particulars of my wife is also given below>> Name : Richa Bhatia> Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10)> Place of Birth : Jhansi India>> Your guidance is vrey important to take me a decision,> please help> me, I shall be highly obliged.>> With regards> Praveen>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> :> gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com>>> Your use of is subject to> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 It is not only illogical but I would even go to the extent of calling it "absurd". Saturn is Lord Krishna's ardent devotee. Manoj Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Saturn is the only planet has the title of Eswara like Maheswara (i.e. Sanieswara). Not even his father Sun is having that title. The title has been awarded to him by the Lord Shiva himself due to his vigrous "tapas" when he wowed to equal himself to that of his father Sun. regards, Ravindramani Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: It is not only illogical but I would even go to theextent of calling it "absurd". Saturn is LordKrishna's ardent devotee.Manoj Send FREE video emails in Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Dear List Members, can any one explain me why should we worship. What is the advantage, benefit will any person gets when he worships any God or any form. and can we realy do worship with our litle brain or mind. With thanks Tarun Chopra On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 Shailesh wrote : > Dear Tarun, > > Your point "This point is base on astrological > combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in > seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its > lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or > religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking > and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical. > > Just look at the numbers we are talking about. > > SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that is > 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on 7H, > it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on 7L > (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so. > > THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only the > birth chart(D-1). > > Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for > Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!! > > Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD NOT > DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY?? > > Incredible!!! > > It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please > qoute your source or reasoning. > > Best wishes, > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha > > - > tarun chopra > gjlist > Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM > Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!! > > > > Dear Praveen > > In your chart it is indicating that you will not have > any job for long time but some how you will manage and > remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some > consultancy work, which you will get very soon after > two or three months your family will join you. > > Precaution stop doing any worship activities as this > is spoiling your life. Worship and religious activities > are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or > home there would be a leakage in walls or roof. > > This point is base on astrological combination when > ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or > Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native > should not do any kind of worship or religious > activities. > > In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on Moon, > which is lord of seventh house. > > Your way towards liberation is through karma only as > in Geeta it is one of the way to reach God > > Wish you all the best from me > > Tarun Chopra On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote : > > Dear Members, > > > > I need your guidance in this difficult period. > > > > At present I have been working in Germany as a > Software > > Professional. > > I am facing some problems and shall be highly > obliged > > for your > > valuable guidance. > > > > My details are as under :- > > > > Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya > > Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night) > > Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13 > > Time Zone (+5:30 GMT) > > > > Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for > > another job here. I > > would like to know that > > > > 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany or > I > > have to > > returned back to India? > > > > 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've joined > in > > February 2001 > > and living here alone. What are the chances that my > > family will join > > me. > > > > Particulars of my wife is also given below > > > > Name : Richa Bhatia > > Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10) > > Place of Birth : Jhansi India > > > > Your guidance is vrey important to take me a > decision, > > please help > > me, I shall be highly obliged. > > > > With regards > > Praveen > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Dear Tarun, Yourpresent question is irrelevant to the original thread. You have made a 'profound' statement and offered advise to a new comer. You should have solid logic or classical references to support the advice you offered - else you are guilty of spreading mis-information among serious students of astrology. You either defend your statement or else withdraw the same with appropriate apology to the person to whom you offered that advise. I trust you take this mail in right perspective. Best wishes, Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com - "tarun chopra" <astrotarun (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> <gjlist> Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:17 AM Re: Re: [GJ] [sAT aspect on 7 [Please guide me !!!] > > Dear List Members, can any one explain me why should we worship. What is the advantage, benefit will any person gets when he worships any God or any form. and can we realy do worship with our litle brain or mind.> > With thanks> > Tarun Chopra> > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 Shailesh wrote :> > Dear Tarun,> >> > Your point "This point is base on astrological> > combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in> > seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its> > lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or> > religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking> > and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical.> >> > Just look at the numbers we are talking about.> >> > SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that is> > 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on 7H,> > it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on 7L> > (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so.> >> > THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only the> > birth chart(D-1).> >> > Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for> > Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!!> >> > Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD NOT> > DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY??> >> > Incredible!!!> >> > It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please> > qoute your source or reasoning.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> > scchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> >> > -> > tarun chopra> > gjlist> > Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM> > Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!!> >> >> >> > Dear Praveen> >> > In your chart it is indicating that you will not have> > any job for long time but some how you will manage and> > remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some> > consultancy work, which you will get very soon after> > two or three months your family will join you.> >> > Precaution stop doing any worship activities as this> > is spoiling your life. Worship and religious activities> > are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or> > home there would be a leakage in walls or roof.> >> > This point is base on astrological combination when> > ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or> > Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native> > should not do any kind of worship or religious> > activities.> >> > In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on Moon,> > which is lord of seventh house.> >> > Your way towards liberation is through karma only as> > in Geeta it is one of the way to reach God> >> > Wish you all the best from me> >> > Tarun Chopra> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote :> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > I need your guidance in this difficult period.> > >> > > At present I have been working in Germany as a> > Software> > > Professional.> > > I am facing some problems and shall be highly> > obliged> > > for your> > > valuable guidance.> > >> > > My details are as under :-> > >> > > Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya> > > Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night)> > > Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13> > > Time Zone (+5:30 GMT)> > >> > > Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for> > > another job here. I> > > would like to know that> > >> > > 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany or> > I> > > have to> > > returned back to India?> > >> > > 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've joined> > in> > > February 2001> > > and living here alone. What are the chances that my> > > family will join> > > me.> > >> > > Particulars of my wife is also given below> > >> > > Name : Richa Bhatia> > > Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10)> > > Place of Birth : Jhansi India> > >> > > Your guidance is vrey important to take me a> > decision,> > > please help> > > me, I shall be highly obliged.> > >> > > With regards> > > Praveen> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat> > Sat> > > :> > > gjlist-> > > http://www.goravani.com> > >> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > To , send an email to:> > gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> >> >> > Your use of is subject to> > > >> >> >> > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> : gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of Groups is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Namaste Tarun, The whole and No.1 premise of astrology is worship and respect of the cosmic powers of Ishwara(The Supreme Lord) transmitted through the planets the Demigods via signs. If you do not acknowlege or grasp that fact , Jyotish becomes truly impotent and hollow and not worth pursuing. And worship is not done through the brain or the mind but through the heart. How can you do prayer without the heart? Jyotish is a divine science and exactly that, Divine. Divine predicates worship and respect. Even the Avartars, saints, sages and famous gurus worshipped. Lord Rama worshipped Siva. All the sages of yore did and emphasized worship even though they were enlightened. Sri Sancharacharya worshipped and host of other saints, Swami Sivananda, Yogananda,Subramunya Swami just to name a few. The whole Vedic culture where Jyotish comes from is based on worship of the divine which is in us. We can become Brahman or Sat the impersonal existence but we can never become Ishwara the Lord and that is why we cannot take out the worship. It is dangerous and irresponible to give such advices and the harm that can inflict on you as well as the client is horrendous. You must not under no circumstances stop your spiritual practice that includes worship. Hari Om Tat Sat Hari Das ---------- >"tarun chopra" <astrotarun >gjlist >Re: Re: [GJ] [sAT aspect on 7 [Please guide me !!!] >Wed, Jan 23, 2002, 12:47 AM > > > Dear List Members, can any one explain me why should we worship. What is > the advantage, benefit will any person gets when he worships any God or any > form. and can we realy do worship with our litle brain or mind. > > With thanks > > Tarun Chopra > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 Shailesh wrote : >> Dear Tarun, >> >> Your point "This point is base on astrological >> combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in >> seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its >> lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or >> religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking >> and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical. >> >> Just look at the numbers we are talking about. >> >> SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that is >> 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on 7H, >> it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on 7L >> (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so. >> >> THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only the >> birth chart(D-1). >> >> Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for >> Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!! >> >> Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD NOT >> DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY?? >> >> Incredible!!! >> >> It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please >> qoute your source or reasoning. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Shailesh Chandra Chadha >> scchadha >> >> - >> tarun chopra >> gjlist >> Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM >> Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!! >> >> >> >> Dear Praveen >> >> In your chart it is indicating that you will not have >> any job for long time but some how you will manage and >> remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some >> consultancy work, which you will get very soon after >> two or three months your family will join you. >> >> Precaution stop doing any worship activities as this >> is spoiling your life. Worship and religious activities >> are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or >> home there would be a leakage in walls or roof. >> >> This point is base on astrological combination when >> ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or >> Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native >> should not do any kind of worship or religious >> activities. >> >> In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on Moon, >> which is lord of seventh house. >> >> Your way towards liberation is through karma only as >> in Geeta it is one of the way to reach God >> >> Wish you all the best from me >> >> Tarun Chopra >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote : >> > Dear Members, >> > >> > I need your guidance in this difficult period. >> > >> > At present I have been working in Germany as a >> Software >> > Professional. >> > I am facing some problems and shall be highly >> obliged >> > for your >> > valuable guidance. >> > >> > My details are as under :- >> > >> > Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya >> > Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night) >> > Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13 >> > Time Zone (+5:30 GMT) >> > >> > Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for >> > another job here. I >> > would like to know that >> > >> > 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany or >> I >> > have to >> > returned back to India? >> > >> > 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've joined >> in >> > February 2001 >> > and living here alone. What are the chances that my >> > family will join >> > me. >> > >> > Particulars of my wife is also given below >> > >> > Name : Richa Bhatia >> > Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10) >> > Place of Birth : Jhansi India >> > >> > Your guidance is vrey important to take me a >> decision, >> > please help >> > me, I shall be highly obliged. >> > >> > With regards >> > Praveen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat >> Sat >> > : >> > gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> > Your use of is subject to >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> : >> gjlist- >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Yes sir you are right but what can we do we cannot change the nature of the planet. you know when you are traviling in ocean and you carry with the wind an if you go to the oposite nature of the wind you will reach no ware the innere nature of satrun is service and those who have strong satrun they should always try to think of service nothing else this is his dharma only and if he strarts doing worship the work of a priest tell me where will he reach those who have strong Guru ie. those have conection of guru with fourth house or fourth lord ninth lord fifth or first could go for worship as they are ment to worship if they start doing service theny they are on wrong track i am just saying we should know our track and try to move on that track and then destination is sure With best wishes Tarun Chopra On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : > Namaste Tarun, > The whole and No.1 premise of astrology is worship and > respect > of the cosmic powers of Ishwara(The Supreme Lord) > transmitted > through the planets the Demigods via signs. > If you do not acknowlege or grasp that fact , Jyotish > becomes > truly impotent and hollow and not worth pursuing. > And worship is not done through the brain or the mind > but > through the heart. How can you do prayer without the > heart? > Jyotish is a divine science and exactly that, Divine. > Divine predicates worship and respect. > Even the Avartars, saints, sages and famous gurus > worshipped. > Lord Rama worshipped Siva. All the sages of yore did and > emphasized worship even though they were enlightened. > Sri Sancharacharya worshipped and host of other saints, > Swami Sivananda, Yogananda,Subramunya Swami just to > name a few. > The whole Vedic culture where Jyotish comes from is > based on > worship of the divine which is in us. > We can become Brahman or Sat the impersonal existence > but > we can never become Ishwara the Lord and that is why we > cannot take out the worship. > It is dangerous and irresponible to give such advices > and > the harm that can inflict on you as well as the client > is > horrendous. > You must not under no circumstances stop your spiritual > practice > that includes worship. > Hari Om Tat Sat > Hari Das > ---------- > >"tarun chopra" <astrotarun > >gjlist > >Re: Re: [GJ] [sAT aspect on 7 [Please guide > me !!!] > >Wed, Jan 23, 2002, 12:47 AM > > > > > > > Dear List Members, can any one explain me why should > we worship. What is > > the advantage, benefit will any person gets when he > worships any God or any > > form. and can we realy do worship with our litle > brain or mind. > > > > With thanks > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 Shailesh wrote : > >> Dear Tarun, > >> > >> Your point "This point is base on astrological > >> combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in > >> seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its > >> lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or > >> religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking > >> and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical. > >> > >> Just look at the numbers we are talking about. > >> > >> SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that > is > >> 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on > 7H, > >> it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on > 7L > >> (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so. > >> > >> THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only > the > >> birth chart(D-1). > >> > >> Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for > >> Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!! > >> > >> Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD > NOT > >> DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY?? > >> > >> Incredible!!! > >> > >> It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please > >> qoute your source or reasoning. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Shailesh Chandra Chadha > >> scchadha > >> > >> - > >> tarun chopra > >> gjlist > >> Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM > >> Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!! > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Praveen > >> > >> In your chart it is indicating that you will not > have > >> any job for long time but some how you will manage > and > >> remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some > >> consultancy work, which you will get very soon after > >> two or three months your family will join you. > >> > >> Precaution stop doing any worship activities as > this > >> is spoiling your life. Worship and religious > activities > >> are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or > >> home there would be a leakage in walls or roof. > >> > >> This point is base on astrological combination when > >> ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or > >> Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native > >> should not do any kind of worship or religious > >> activities. > >> > >> In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on > Moon, > >> which is lord of seventh house. > >> > >> Your way towards liberation is through karma only > as > >> in Geeta it is one of the way to reach God > >> > >> Wish you all the best from me > >> > >> Tarun Chopra > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote : > >> > Dear Members, > >> > > >> > I need your guidance in this difficult period. > >> > > >> > At present I have been working in Germany as a > >> Software > >> > Professional. > >> > I am facing some problems and shall be highly > >> obliged > >> > for your > >> > valuable guidance. > >> > > >> > My details are as under :- > >> > > >> > Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya > >> > Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night) > >> > Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13 > >> > Time Zone (+5:30 GMT) > >> > > >> > Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for > >> > another job here. I > >> > would like to know that > >> > > >> > 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany > or > >> I > >> > have to > >> > returned back to India? > >> > > >> > 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've > joined > >> in > >> > February 2001 > >> > and living here alone. What are the chances that > my > >> > family will join > >> > me. > >> > > >> > Particulars of my wife is also given below > >> > > >> > Name : Richa Bhatia > >> > Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10) > >> > Place of Birth : Jhansi India > >> > > >> > Your guidance is vrey important to take me a > >> decision, > >> > please help > >> > me, I shall be highly obliged. > >> > > >> > With regards > >> > Praveen > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > Tat > >> Sat > >> > : > >> > gjlist- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Your use of is subject to > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > >> : > >> gjlist- > >> > >> > >> > >> Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Om All i can say is that you are very confused and misguided. Om Tat Sat Hari Das ---------- >"tarun chopra" <astrotarun >gjlist >Re: Re: [GJ] [sAT aspect on 7 [Please guide me !!!] >Wed, Jan 23, 2002, 2:35 PM > > > Yes sir you are right but what can we do we cannot change the nature of the > planet. you know when you are traviling in ocean and you carry with the > wind an if you go to the oposite nature of the wind you will reach no ware > the innere nature of satrun is service and those who have strong satrun > they should always try to think of service nothing else this is his dharma > only and if he strarts doing worship the work of a priest tell me where > will he reach those who have strong Guru ie. those have conection of guru > with fourth house or fourth lord ninth lord fifth or first could go for > worship as they are ment to worship if they start doing service theny they > are on wrong track > > i am just saying we should know our track and try to move on that track and > then destination is sure > > With best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 Gee Sunn wrote : >> Namaste Tarun, >> The whole and No.1 premise of astrology is worship and >> respect >> of the cosmic powers of Ishwara(The Supreme Lord) >> transmitted >> through the planets the Demigods via signs. >> If you do not acknowlege or grasp that fact , Jyotish >> becomes >> truly impotent and hollow and not worth pursuing. >> And worship is not done through the brain or the mind >> but >> through the heart. How can you do prayer without the >> heart? >> Jyotish is a divine science and exactly that, Divine. >> Divine predicates worship and respect. >> Even the Avartars, saints, sages and famous gurus >> worshipped. >> Lord Rama worshipped Siva. All the sages of yore did and >> emphasized worship even though they were enlightened. >> Sri Sancharacharya worshipped and host of other saints, >> Swami Sivananda, Yogananda,Subramunya Swami just to >> name a few. >> The whole Vedic culture where Jyotish comes from is >> based on >> worship of the divine which is in us. >> We can become Brahman or Sat the impersonal existence >> but >> we can never become Ishwara the Lord and that is why we >> cannot take out the worship. >> It is dangerous and irresponible to give such advices >> and >> the harm that can inflict on you as well as the client >> is >> horrendous. >> You must not under no circumstances stop your spiritual >> practice >> that includes worship. >> Hari Om Tat Sat >> Hari Das >> ---------- >> >"tarun chopra" <astrotarun >> >gjlist >> >Re: Re: [GJ] [sAT aspect on 7 [Please guide >> me !!!] >> >Wed, Jan 23, 2002, 12:47 AM >> > >> >> > >> > Dear List Members, can any one explain me why should >> we worship. What is >> > the advantage, benefit will any person gets when he >> worships any God or any >> > form. and can we realy do worship with our litle >> brain or mind. >> > >> > With thanks >> > >> > Tarun Chopra >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 Shailesh wrote : >> >> Dear Tarun, >> >> >> >> Your point "This point is base on astrological >> >> combination when ever Saturn is exalted placed in >> >> seventh house or Saturn aspects seventh house or its >> >> lord. The native should not do any kind of worship or >> >> religious activities.: is too drastic - too shocking >> >> and too far-fetched, if not downright illogical. >> >> >> >> Just look at the numbers we are talking about. >> >> >> >> SA aspects, by Graha dristi, 3, 7 & 10 from it- that >> is >> >> 25% of Rasis. If we take into account the aspects on >> 7H, >> >> it is 25% of all nativities; add to that aspect on >> 7L >> >> (if 7L is not in 7H) - another 15% or so. >> >> >> >> THAT IS 40% plus OF ALL POPULATION. And it is only >> the >> >> birth chart(D-1). >> >> >> >> Now what is true for birth chart, is also true for >> >> Navamsa (D-9). So how many more??? 10-20% more!!!! >> >> >> >> Do you mean to say 50-60% of the population SHOULD >> NOT >> >> DO ANY KIND OF WORSHIP OR RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY?? >> >> >> >> Incredible!!! >> >> >> >> It is far beyond my comprehension - will you please >> >> qoute your source or reasoning. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> Shailesh Chandra Chadha >> >> scchadha >> >> >> >> - >> >> tarun chopra >> >> gjlist >> >> Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:45 PM >> >> Re: [GJ] Please guide me !!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Praveen >> >> >> >> In your chart it is indicating that you will not >> have >> >> any job for long time but some how you will manage >> and >> >> remain abroad. Your income will be generated by some >> >> consultancy work, which you will get very soon after >> >> two or three months your family will join you. >> >> >> >> Precaution stop doing any worship activities as >> this >> >> is spoiling your life. Worship and religious >> activities >> >> are not suitable for you. Check in your apartment or >> >> home there would be a leakage in walls or roof. >> >> >> >> This point is base on astrological combination when >> >> ever Saturn is exalted placed in seventh house or >> >> Saturn aspects seventh house or its lord. The native >> >> should not do any kind of worship or religious >> >> activities. >> >> >> >> In your case Saturn is having seventh aspect on >> Moon, >> >> which is lord of seventh house. >> >> >> >> Your way towards liberation is through karma only >> as >> >> in Geeta it is one of the way to reach God >> >> >> >> Wish you all the best from me >> >> >> >> Tarun Chopra >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 pkbingermany wrote : >> >> > Dear Members, >> >> > >> >> > I need your guidance in this difficult period. >> >> > >> >> > At present I have been working in Germany as a >> >> Software >> >> > Professional. >> >> > I am facing some problems and shall be highly >> >> obliged >> >> > for your >> >> > valuable guidance. >> >> > >> >> > My details are as under :- >> >> > >> >> > Name : Praveen Kumar Bhatiya >> >> > Date of Birth : 09.05.1968 (00:44 Night) >> >> > Place of Birth : Delhi India 28N54, 077E13 >> >> > Time Zone (+5:30 GMT) >> >> > >> >> > Here I have lost my job and now I am looking for >> >> > another job here. I >> >> > would like to know that >> >> > >> >> > 1. Would I be able to get another job in Germany >> or >> >> I >> >> > have to >> >> > returned back to India? >> >> > >> >> > 2. My wife and son are still in India. I've >> joined >> >> in >> >> > February 2001 >> >> > and living here alone. What are the chances that >> my >> >> > family will join >> >> > me. >> >> > >> >> > Particulars of my wife is also given below >> >> > >> >> > Name : Richa Bhatia >> >> > Date of Birth : 22.10.1974(16:10) >> >> > Place of Birth : Jhansi India >> >> > >> >> > Your guidance is vrey important to take me a >> >> decision, >> >> > please help >> >> > me, I shall be highly obliged. >> >> > >> >> > With regards >> >> > Praveen >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om >> Tat >> >> Sat >> >> > : >> >> > gjlist- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Your use of is subject to >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat >> Sat >> >> : >> >> gjlist- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> > : >> gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> > Your use of is subject to >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> : >> gjlist- >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to >> >> >> > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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