Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 dear nicholas i do agree that the quadrant and trine lords are powerful in quadrants and trines. but for the mercury lagnas and jupiter lagnas, the respective badhakesh could lose their maleficeince to certain extent if they are in dusthansa. isn't it. i have read that mercury for dhanu lagna is best placed in 6th then followed by 3rd and then konas. this would reduce its malefiecience. could you kindly explain me if we do not apply the dusthana concept to janma chart then where should we apply it. i mean the kendradhipatya dosha can be reduced by placement in which rasis from the lagna??? regards partha gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > Dear Partha > The concept of Badhaka is not used in Jataka (reading of the birth > horoscope) . Lords of the quadrants and trines are best placed in trines and > quadrants this is where one gets favourable yogas as described by Parasara > .It is a weakness of the lord of a trine or quadrant to be placed in a > dusthana (6,8 or 12) .However for Mercury's lagnas Jupiter has the status of > maraka or death wielder which is applicable in it's dashas or bhuktis .For > Jupiter's signs Mercury has the status of Maraka .It is not unusual for > jyotishis to mix up these concepts but hear is the clear understanding . > Best Wishes > Nicholas > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <gjlist> > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:52 PM > [GJ] Mercury as Badhakesh > > > > dear gurus and friends > > > > i would like to know if the badhak qualities of a planet decreases as > > it goes into a kona or dusthana?? > > > > for mithuna jupiter is a badhak, my understanding is that if jupiter > > is in dusthana his badhak qualties will decrease. for kanya lagna i > > suppose it is the same. placement in kona is also good. > > > > no my question si for my dhanu lagna mercury is badhakesh. he is > > placed in lagna with 9.95 rupas in shadbala. he is conjunct lagna . > > could it behave as a badhakesh(it is in a kona). > > > > please enlighten me as mecury antar for me in rahu mahadas is going > > to start soon. > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Partha My belief is the Lordship of a quadrant is neutral for all Lagnas . However when a planet also rules a trine it becomes specially auspicious (Yoga karaka) My understanding of the conceptof kendradhipatya yoga is a planet becomes weakened by ruling two quadrants . The four quadrants represent the four pillars of life self ,spouse ,home and work .When a planet takes on two such large portfolios it is somewhat overburdened and therefore weakened in it's ability to give results . There fore I do not see any particular placement as overcoming this weakness .. Therefore I would stick to the standard understanding of what constitutes good placement for quadrant Lords . To understand the advantages and disadvantages of different placements of the household Lords I refer you to the chapter in BPHS that deals with this subject . I can not claim to improve on this . As I said Badhaka is not used in Jataka (delineation of the birth chart) Best Wishes Nicholas - "partvinu5" <partvinu5 <gjlist> Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:15 PM Re: [GJ] Mercury as Badhakesh-dear nicholas > dear nicholas > i do agree that the quadrant and trine lords are powerful in > quadrants and trines. but for the mercury lagnas and jupiter lagnas, > the respective badhakesh could lose their maleficeince to certain > extent if they are in dusthansa. isn't it. i have read that mercury > for dhanu lagna is best placed in 6th then followed by 3rd and then > konas. this would reduce its malefiecience. could you kindly explain > me if we do not apply the dusthana concept to janma chart then where > should we apply it. i mean the kendradhipatya dosha can be reduced by > placement in which rasis from the lagna??? > > regards > partha > > > > > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > > Dear Partha > > The concept of Badhaka is not used in Jataka (reading of the birth > > horoscope) . Lords of the quadrants and trines are best placed in > trines and > > quadrants this is where one gets favourable yogas as described by > Parasara > > .It is a weakness of the lord of a trine or quadrant to be placed > in a > > dusthana (6,8 or 12) .However for Mercury's lagnas Jupiter has the > status of > > maraka or death wielder which is applicable in it's dashas or > bhuktis .For > > Jupiter's signs Mercury has the status of Maraka .It is not unusual > for > > jyotishis to mix up these concepts but hear is the clear > understanding . > > Best Wishes > > Nicholas > > - > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > <gjlist> > > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:52 PM > > [GJ] Mercury as Badhakesh > > > > > > > dear gurus and friends > > > > > > i would like to know if the badhak qualities of a planet > decreases as > > > it goes into a kona or dusthana?? > > > > > > for mithuna jupiter is a badhak, my understanding is that if > jupiter > > > is in dusthana his badhak qualties will decrease. for kanya lagna > i > > > suppose it is the same. placement in kona is also good. > > > > > > no my question si for my dhanu lagna mercury is badhakesh. he is > > > placed in lagna with 9.95 rupas in shadbala. he is conjunct > lagna . > > > could it behave as a badhakesh(it is in a kona). > > > > > > please enlighten me as mecury antar for me in rahu mahadas is > going > > > to start soon. > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 I am not able to understand the basic logic of malefic planets posited in malefic houses will give good results - i.e. their maleficity is getting reduced by which we can assume they give good results. Please consider this situation. A saintly man meditating and he creates a good vibrations he lives. Another two saintly men joining him start meditating and in turn they produce more spiritual vibrations. One can very well understand this. A rowdy element creating all kind of troubles in your locality and he is joined by another rowdy will you feel that now the troubles will get reduced ? No. The first one is getting stroner by the addition and will make more troubles. I personally feel this. In the same way a malefic house producing maleficity and further a malefic planet ( either a malefic or a planet which has acquired the functional maleficity )is going there. Will that place produce more maleficince or beneficince? Bear with my ignorance. regards, C.S. Ravindramani. partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear nicholas i do agree that the quadrant and trine lords are powerful in quadrants and trines. but for the mercury lagnas and jupiter lagnas, the respective badhakesh could lose their maleficeince to certain extent if they are in dusthansa. isn't it. i have read that mercury for dhanu lagna is best placed in 6th then followed by 3rd and then konas. this would reduce its malefiecience. could you kindly explain me if we do not apply the dusthana concept to janma chart then where should we apply it. i mean the kendradhipatya dosha can be reduced by placement in which rasis from the lagna???regardspartha Send FREE video emails in Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 dear nicholas yes it is true that in BPHS the great parasara has given the effects for the placement for various lords. But i have read on different lagnas , their karaktwas, the various lords and their placements. now please note that a) for dhanu lagna-jupiter in 6th gives raja yoga b) for mithuna lagna budha in 12th is considered very good though for other lagnas it is considered bad. c) badhakesh for vrischika lagna is best placed in 12th huose. d) there are so many concepts that are discussed in uttara-kalamrita, saravali, jaimini sutras that are corollary to the master classic of BPHS. e) please go through other classics in which there are chapters on lagna and the placements of different planets are mentioned. apart from reading these classics that i have mentioned i am mostly quoting from jyotishya ratanavali which is the work of my greatgrandfather. he has translated many classics in my mother tongue (telugu). i have cheked up and he has not altered anything that is there in the classics. His third volume in exclusively on various lagnas that is very exhaustive. regards partha gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > Dear Partha > My belief is the Lordship of a quadrant is neutral for all Lagnas . > However when a planet also rules a trine it becomes specially auspicious > (Yoga karaka) > My understanding of the conceptof kendradhipatya yoga is a planet becomes > weakened by ruling two quadrants . > The four quadrants represent the four pillars of life self ,spouse ,home and > work .When a planet takes on two such large portfolios it is somewhat > overburdened and therefore weakened in it's ability to give results . > There fore I do not see any particular placement as overcoming this weakness > . > Therefore I would stick to the standard understanding of what constitutes > good placement for quadrant Lords . > To understand the advantages and disadvantages of different placements of > the household Lords I refer you to the chapter in BPHS that deals with this > subject . I can not claim to improve on this . > As I said Badhaka is not used in Jataka (delineation of the birth chart) > Best Wishes > Nicholas > > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > <gjlist> > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:15 PM > Re: [GJ] Mercury as Badhakesh-dear nicholas > > > > dear nicholas > > i do agree that the quadrant and trine lords are powerful in > > quadrants and trines. but for the mercury lagnas and jupiter lagnas, > > the respective badhakesh could lose their maleficeince to certain > > extent if they are in dusthansa. isn't it. i have read that mercury > > for dhanu lagna is best placed in 6th then followed by 3rd and then > > konas. this would reduce its malefiecience. could you kindly explain > > me if we do not apply the dusthana concept to janma chart then where > > should we apply it. i mean the kendradhipatya dosha can be reduced by > > placement in which rasis from the lagna??? > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha > > > The concept of Badhaka is not used in Jataka (reading of the birth > > > horoscope) . Lords of the quadrants and trines are best placed in > > trines and > > > quadrants this is where one gets favourable yogas as described by > > Parasara > > > .It is a weakness of the lord of a trine or quadrant to be placed > > in a > > > dusthana (6,8 or 12) .However for Mercury's lagnas Jupiter has the > > status of > > > maraka or death wielder which is applicable in it's dashas or > > bhuktis .For > > > Jupiter's signs Mercury has the status of Maraka .It is not unusual > > for > > > jyotishis to mix up these concepts but hear is the clear > > understanding . > > > Best Wishes > > > Nicholas > > > - > > > "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > > > <gjlist> > > > Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:52 PM > > > [GJ] Mercury as Badhakesh > > > > > > > > > > dear gurus and friends > > > > > > > > i would like to know if the badhak qualities of a planet > > decreases as > > > > it goes into a kona or dusthana?? > > > > > > > > for mithuna jupiter is a badhak, my understanding is that if > > jupiter > > > > is in dusthana his badhak qualties will decrease. for kanya lagna > > i > > > > suppose it is the same. placement in kona is also good. > > > > > > > > no my question si for my dhanu lagna mercury is badhakesh. he is > > > > placed in lagna with 9.95 rupas in shadbala. he is conjunct > > lagna . > > > > could it behave as a badhakesh(it is in a kona). > > > > > > > > please enlighten me as mecury antar for me in rahu mahadas is > > going > > > > to start soon. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Partha, Each of these are in a sign of Venus, the planet of comfort and luxury (opulence)...what does that tell you? Best Wishes,Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologerhttp://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/JyotishVidyawenvas (AT) dingoblue (DOT) net.au~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ dear nicholasyes it is true that in BPHS the great parasara has given the effects for the placement for various lords.But i have read on different lagnas , their karaktwas, the various lords and their placements.now please note that a) for dhanu lagna-jupiter in 6th gives raja yogab) for mithuna lagna budha in 12th is considered very good though for other lagnas it is considered bad.c) badhakesh for vrischika lagna is best placed in 12th huose.d) there are so many concepts that are discussed in uttara-kalamrita, saravali, jaimini sutras that are corollary to the master classic of BPHS.e) please go through other classics in which there are chapters on lagna and the placements of different planets are mentioned.apart from reading these classics that i have mentioned i am mostly quoting from jyotishya ratanavali which is the work of my greatgrandfather. he has translated many classics in my mother tongue(telugu). i have cheked up and he has not altered anything that is there in the classics. His third volume in exclusively on various lagnas that is very exhaustive.regardspartha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Partha' I could not find the translation for badhakesh. i had thought shukra? can you send please? thanks. Marcia c) badhakesh for vrischika lagna is best placed in 12th huose. regards partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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