Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hello everyone I've been monitoring the list for a month or so and am very pleased at the level of expertise and professionalism. I purchased GJ a few months ago and have been teaching myself vedic astrology. Im particularly interested in the Krishnamurti system. I would welcome some insight into my own chart as Im currently having relationship problems, job problems, etc. Thanks in advance. My info 9/30/61 Washington, DC 2:05 pm -- Rowland E. Anderson II randerson2 - email (202) 756-4135 - voicemail/fax My thoughts control my life, my questions control my thoughts! ---- gjlist wrote: > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > ------ > > There are 11 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: I need Help with My current and upcoming Dasha > "Gee Sunn" <siva1008 > 2. Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > 3. Re: Re: Ketu Swallowing up planets -dear zamani > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > 4. Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > "cupofmagic" <cupofmagic > 5. Re: adoption-reg. > ravindramani <ravindramani > 6. Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > "partvinu5" <partvinu5 > 7. Re: adoption-reg. > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > 8. Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > "resimpson" <resimpson > 9. Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > VXCMX > 10. Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > 11. Re: Help Needed > "Nicholas" <jyotish108 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:32:54 -0500 > "Gee Sunn" <siva1008 > Re: I need Help with My current and upcoming Dasha > > Dear Zamani. > I overlooked the fact that Sani is retrograde which can > mean that its fall can be reversed and some astrologers even > say it's like being exalted. So do'nt be surprised if this > Sun/Saturn period brings some very good results. > Hari Das > > ---------- > >Zamani Feelings <zfeelings2 > >gjlist > >Re: [GJ] I need Help with My current and upcoming Dasha > >Tue, Jan 8, 2002, 7:02 PM > > > > > Thanks John for the insight.I suspected that my > > fathers health might be at risk based on some > > western astrology techniques.Im also expecting > > some relationship problems under this dasha since > > Saturn is in the 7th, maybe il be in a > > drought...lol...Well I posted up a copy of my > > rash as wel as my navamsa for you and other to > > look at.Thanks again Zamani > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > > http://promo./videomail/ > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:26:06 +0800 > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > > Dear Deepak, > Your initial question if memory serves me, was why is this native having > success in career but unhappiness in marriage. > > Just a very quick observation (the obvious) Deepak as I have a busy > schedule today. The unhappiness (discontent) in marriage is not difficult > to see with 7th lord fallen in ascendant. A debilitated planet in lagna > is (naturally) going to cause some discomfort in the native's life...7th > is Mercury's moolatrikona sign, so husband is not well received by > the native...such a relationship cannot ever be truly harmonious. Particularly > so when receiving an aspect from Mars. > As well as this, significator for spouse (Venus) is conjunct 6th lord > Sun in 12th house and is aspected by 12th lord Saturn. Often we find, > for Jupiter natives, that the relationship with spouse is not very > smooth as Jupiter and Venus are natural enemies. However in this chart > they're neutral (not good, not bad). > > The combination of Mars and Rahu in 10th is a strong driving force > for the native to succeed. Mars is the planet of ambition, energy, > drive; and Rahu (the seizer) will compel this native to achieve success. > However Rahu can also bring unexpected reversals and in this instance > losses as he's co-ruler of 12th. > 2/9 lord Mars in 10th gives one good earning ability. > > This is rushed Deepak, sorry! not enough time to look closer. > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer > http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ > JyotishVidya > wenvas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Sorry the Year is 1973, > > 25th Feb. 1973, > 8:12 Pacific Standard Time, > Redding , CA, USA. > > Thanks > Deepak > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:44:40 +0800 > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > Re: Re: Ketu Swallowing up planets -dear zamani > > Re: [GJ] Re: Ketu Swallowing up planets -dear zamaniDear Arthur, > There is no doubt that the right Upaye can be of benefit to this native > with Jupiter's star lord in 9th house...this is the house of remedies! > Also Saturn's aspect on MA/SU can indicate adoption. IMHO Saturn's > placement in 8th Saptamsha, whilst not good for one's own progeny may > grant adopted children as a malefic planet in malefic house has the > ability to fulfil it's obligations. Saturn specifically refers to adoption, > so I see this as a possibility. > > PS: My mother was unable to have children, until she adopted me, she > then very quickly fell pregnant with my brother...something to ponder! > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer > http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ > JyotishVidya > wenvas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dear Wendy, > > We are looking at the same chart but obviously you can see more than > I. Looking into this difficult case is an experience for me. I'm beginning > to understand the various contributors to a major childless problem > in this woman's life. She is so keen to be a mother that she is prepared > to adopt a child. > > When I said in my last text that Jupiter in her chart is not problematic > I should have said that Jupiter 'alone' is not the cause of her problem. > Jupiter is a problem for her, as you pointed out, because Jupiter is > in a dusthana. > > Both husband and wife have seen the best doctors and they are both > perfectly healthy. So the problem is a negative planetary influence > which is beyond their control. Or is it? > > Since I got an excellent result with another childless couple (they > were trying for six years) by getting them to chant various dashavatara > mantras, I'm also doing the same with this couple. I believe the recitation > of such powerful mantras can significantly minimize negative planetary > influences owing to previous impious acts. So this couple are now chanting > these mantras very enthusiastically every day. Let's see what result > is achieved in around six months or so. > > But as for the precise astrological problem, Wendy you explained > it as follows: > > > In this chart we see (along with Jupiter in dusthana) that both > 5th lord and Jupiter's dispositor are inimically placed in 6th house > of obstruction (a dusthana) and are receiving an aspect from Saturn, > the planet of denial. So there are several strong factors in this chart > restricting children. > > > It seems it is the 'combined' several strong factors that are denying > this couple a child. Also, she has now just moved into major Saturn > dasha and Saturn for her is malefic, but Saturn on the placement scale > is a friend to her, and this may help a little. > > Wendy, you are a very experienced astrologer, would you conclude > from this lady's chart that there are just too many planetary negativities > for her to ever get a child? I ask you that because I'm not adept enough > to say definitely. All I know is that there are some obvious negative > indications in her chart (as you pointed out) and that for the last > nine years she has had a real (not physical) planetary obstacle to > conceiving a child. > > My best regards > > Arthur > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:02:26 -0000 > "cupofmagic" <cupofmagic > Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > > Hi Wendy! > Thanks a lot for a quick look at the chart. > Well, To add to this Venus the Karaka of Marriage is in Dhanishta > Nakshatra, which itself results in Marital discord. > My question was more on analysing the chart based on Nakshatra. > Now in this chart there is a Nakshatra exchange between Mars and > Saturn. > Also, Moon is in Neecha Position. > Here Mercury is in Deb. aspected by benefic Mars from the 10th house. > Mercury is also a Badhaka. And Jup. in Deb. aspects the 7th house. > So my question is even thou the married life may not be good and the > > couple may live separetely but WILL THERE BE A DIVORCE OR OTHER > MARRIAGE. > And as we look at the marital factors they dont look that bright so > > does that mean that even if she marries again she wont have a good > > married life? > Career will always be good even thou Mars is with Rahu. And How is > > Rahu the lord of 12th house. Rahu/Ketu doesnot own any house. And I > > know Mr. Sanjay Rath writes about the same as it is mentioned in > Jataka Parijata. But I haven't found the same type of lordship other > > than in Jaimini. So I would prefer not to include that. > Besides when Venus-Rahu started she seperated from her husband but > at > the same time got a "Circle of Excellence" award from such a big > company where she is the manager. > Also, it is said when Rahu combines in the 10th with the lord of the > > Trikona or Lakshmi sthana it becomes a Rajayoga. > > I was also looking at the 5th house. Its Lord is in the 9th with > Neechabhanga(Mars is in Kendra from Lagna). Also Saturn aspects the > > Moon. So what does it indicate about the children. > > Its Getting interesting. > What does others have to say besides Wendy. > Thanks > Deepak > The Details again > 25th Feb. 1973, > 8:12 PST > Redding, CA , USA > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Deepak, > > Your initial question if memory serves me, was why is this native > > having success in career but unhappiness in marriage. > > > > Just a very quick observation (the obvious) Deepak as I have a busy > > schedule today. The unhappiness (discontent) in marriage is not > difficult to see with 7th lord fallen in ascendant. A debilitated > planet in lagna is (naturally) going to cause some discomfort in the > > native's life...7th is Mercury's moolatrikona sign, so husband is not > > well received by the native...such a relationship cannot ever be > truly harmonious. Particularly so when receiving an aspect from Mars. > > As well as this, significator for spouse (Venus) is conjunct 6th > > lord Sun in 12th house and is aspected by 12th lord Saturn. Often we > > find, for Jupiter natives, that the relationship with spouse is not > > very smooth as Jupiter and Venus are natural enemies. However in this > > chart they're neutral (not good, not bad). > > > > The combination of Mars and Rahu in 10th is a strong driving force > > for the native to succeed. Mars is the planet of ambition, energy, > > drive; and Rahu (the seizer) will compel this native to achieve > success. However Rahu can also bring unexpected reversals and in this > > instance losses as he's co-ruler of 12th. > > 2/9 lord Mars in 10th gives one good earning ability. > > > > This is rushed Deepak, sorry! not enough time to look closer. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Wendy > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer > > http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ > > JyotishVidya > > wenvas@d... > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Sorry the Year is 1973, > > > > 25th Feb. 1973, > > 8:12 Pacific Standard Time, > > Redding , CA, USA. > > > > Thanks > > Deepak > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:18:31 -0800 (PST) > ravindramani <ravindramani > Re: adoption-reg. > > > > Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: Dear Arthur,There > is no doubt that the right Upaye can be of benefit to this native with > Jupiter's star lord in 9th house...this is the house of remedies!Also > Saturn's aspect on MA/SU can indicate adoption. IMHO Saturn's placement > in 8th Saptamsha, whilst not good for one's own progeny may grant adopted > children as a malefic planet in malefic house has the ability to fulfil > it's obligations. Saturn specifically refers to adoption, so I see > this as a possibility. Ravindramani writes:9-01-2002 1055 IST Dear > Wendy, May I request you to kindly throw light on adoption issue a > little further. What are the possibble planetary positions which you > have seen in your experience for adoption in a nativity. Generally, > in a chart the 9th lord going in 8th House shows the promise of the > native going in adoption. regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail. > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:24:47 -0000 > "partvinu5" <partvinu5 > Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > > dear C , R , Nicholas > > well i too am sagitarius lagna, and ketu is in the 5th house of > desires, love and intelligence for me. The desires, appearances, and > > love is negated for me as i do not beleive in external show. ketu is > > moksha karaka and his placement in 5th atleast gives such thouoghts. > > regards > p > > p.s: sorry my name is partha sarathy, i am a jovian, jupiter in 5th, > > i cant use abbreiavations. please tell me your names. hey c is it yo > > cynthia > gjlist, "resimpson" <resimpson@w...> wrote: > > Dear C, > > > > So, in other words, whichever house Ketu lives there might be this > > affect of 'dispersal' , or letting go, on the particular aspects > which that house represents? Sorry...I am struggling for words here. > > I too know it only from personal experience. Since I have been in > this sub-period of Ketu, things have just literally dispersed. > However, I view this in a positive light in the sense that it is > freeing me up to allow better things to come in. > > > > Thanks for the sharing. > > > > R > > - > > VXCMX@a... > > gjlist > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:21 PM > > Re: [GJ] ketu > > > > > > I have Ketu in my first house, lagna Sagittarius. My > understanding of Ketu is that it dissolves things. Disperses them and > > makes them sort of...impossible to hold -- whereas Rahu amasses > things and makes you groan under their weight. > > > > The only experience I have of this is personal. Since Ketu lives > > in my first house, I have no sense of myself. I am always surrprised > > when people notice me -- I don't mean this in a self-effacing way, > I > mean I am surprised by their reaction since I've either forgotten I > > was in the room or meant what I was doing or saying entirely > differently than it was intended. My thoughts are important to me but > > my appearance is not. My inner monologue is quite a bit more > interesting to me than a conversation with others -- and in fact too > > much every day conversation I resent and feel intruded upon. > > > > I think those are ketuish things. > > > > C > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:29:47 +0800 > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > Re: adoption-reg. > > Dear Ravindramani, > Three cases known to me...none have 9th lord in 8th! > One native adopted the children of her (deceased) elder sister. One > had an elder sibling that was adopted, and the other was adopted. In > each case Saturn is significant. > I'll give you the data of all three (not in any order)...I'm sure you'll > be able to (easily) see which is which :-) > > PS: One native was fostered but never adopted. > > !) 1 Jul 1949 (00:15) Melbourne, Australia > 2) 4 Sep 1943 (17:35) "" "" > 3) 4 Sep 1943 (16.20) "" "" > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer > http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ > JyotishVidya > wenvas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ravindramani writes: > 9-01-2002 1055 IST > > Dear Wendy, > > May I request you to kindly throw light on adoption issue a little > further. What are the possibble planetary positions which you have > seen in your experience for adoption in a nativity. > > Generally, in a chart the 9th lord going in 8th House shows the > promise of the native going in adoption. > > > regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:44:51 +0200 > "resimpson" <resimpson > Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > > Hi Partha,, > R stands for Robyn. Sorry, I spend so much time on the web (its my > work), > one gets lazy. Here are my birth details if anybody would like to give > some > input on what's happening in my life right now, particularly with regard > to > Ketu. I have had an extremely interesting and varied life, let's see > how > much of it you can pick up with the birth data. > > Birth data: > > Time: 8pm > Place: Durban, South Africa > Time Zone: 2he > Lat: 30e56 > Long: 29s55 > No daylight saving > > Have fun. > > > - > "partvinu5" <partvinu5 > <gjlist> > Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:24 AM > Re: [GJ] ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > > > > dear C , R , Nicholas > > > > well i too am sagitarius lagna, and ketu is in the 5th house of > > desires, love and intelligence for me. The desires, appearances, > and > > love is negated for me as i do not beleive in external show. ketu > is > > moksha karaka and his placement in 5th atleast gives such thouoghts. > > > > regards > > p > > > > p.s: sorry my name is partha sarathy, i am a jovian, jupiter in 5th, > > i cant use abbreiavations. please tell me your names. hey c is it > yo > > cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist, "resimpson" <resimpson@w...> wrote: > > > Dear C, > > > > > > So, in other words, whichever house Ketu lives there might be this > > affect of 'dispersal' , or letting go, on the particular aspects > > which that house represents? Sorry...I am struggling for words here. > > I too know it only from personal experience. Since I have been in > > this sub-period of Ketu, things have just literally dispersed. > > However, I view this in a positive light in the sense that it is > > freeing me up to allow better things to come in. > > > > > > Thanks for the sharing. > > > > > > R > > > - > > > VXCMX@a... > > > gjlist > > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:21 PM > > > Re: [GJ] ketu > > > > > > > > > I have Ketu in my first house, lagna Sagittarius. My > > understanding of Ketu is that it dissolves things. Disperses them > and > > makes them sort of...impossible to hold -- whereas Rahu amasses > > things and makes you groan under their weight. > > > > > > The only experience I have of this is personal. Since Ketu lives > > in my first house, I have no sense of myself. I am always surrprised > > when people notice me -- I don't mean this in a self-effacing way, > I > > mean I am surprised by their reaction since I've either forgotten > I > > was in the room or meant what I was doing or saying entirely > > differently than it was intended. My thoughts are important to me > but > > my appearance is not. My inner monologue is quite a bit more > > interesting to me than a conversation with others -- and in fact > too > > much every day conversation I resent and feel intruded upon. > > > > > > I think those are ketuish things. > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist-@e... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:55:46 EST > VXCMX > Re: ketu dear C,R, and nicholas > > . No, it's Calla. > > Ketu is a confounding influence, because it seems to make things disappear. > > But I think, as you've just said, it more makes a thing seem to disappear. > So > though I seem to have no self to myself others do see me, apparently, > fairly > well, as you say your experiences of love are invisible ( but not > nonexistent!) I was thinking also about the balance Rahu will make > to the > opposite house of Ketu. For me this is the seventh house...burdens > in > relationships for a person with no central self-concept! Well, a person > > without one of these is bound to have such burdens, and have them > reinforced > by the continuous interplay between the two forces. > > So Rahu and Ketu form a complex usually. . Very interesting. > > C > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:58:16 +0800 > "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas > Re: An Interesting case --Wendy > > Dear Deepak, > According to the dictums of Jyotish, Rahu has Aquarius as "Own Sign" > and Ketu has Scorpio as "Own Sign". > I do not hold with the notion that either node can ever have dominance > over SA/MA rulership. But (in Rashi) Rahu will give effects of Aquarius > and Ketu of Scorpio. > > In regards to Mars being such a great benefic...I do believe that his > effects will be mixed as he has 2nd (maraka) house as his moolatrikona > sign. > > Best Wishes, > Wendy > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer > http://www.members.tripod.com/ganesh_astro/ > JyotishVidya > wenvas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hi Wendy! > Thanks a lot for a quick look at the chart. > Well, To add to this Venus the Karaka of Marriage is in Dhanishta > > Nakshatra, which itself results in Marital discord. > My question was more on analysing the chart based on Nakshatra. > Now in this chart there is a Nakshatra exchange between Mars and > > Saturn. > Also, Moon is in Neecha Position. > Here Mercury is in Deb. aspected by benefic Mars from the 10th house. > Mercury is also a Badhaka. And Jup. in Deb. aspects the 7th house. > So my question is even thou the married life may not be good and > the > couple may live separetely but WILL THERE BE A DIVORCE OR OTHER > MARRIAGE. > And as we look at the marital factors they dont look that bright > so > does that mean that even if she marries again she wont have a good > > married life? > Career will always be good even thou Mars is with Rahu. And How is > > Rahu the lord of 12th house. Rahu/Ketu doesnot own any house. And > I > know Mr. Sanjay Rath writes about the same as it is mentioned in > > Jataka Parijata. But I haven't found the same type of lordship other > > than in Jaimini. So I would prefer not to include that. > Besides when Venus-Rahu started she seperated from her husband but > at > the same time got a "Circle of Excellence" award from such a big > > company where she is the manager. > Also, it is said when Rahu combines in the 10th with the lord of > the > Trikona or Lakshmi sthana it becomes a Rajayoga. > > I was also looking at the 5th house. Its Lord is in the 9th with > > Neechabhanga(Mars is in Kendra from Lagna). Also Saturn aspects the > > Moon. So what does it indicate about the children. > > Its Getting interesting. > What does others have to say besides Wendy. > Thanks > Deepak > The Details again > 25th Feb. 1973, > 8:12 PST > Redding, CA , USA > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:11:05 +1100 > "Nicholas" <jyotish108 > Re: Help Needed > > Dear Ashvin > This is real quick so please don't base your life on it but maybe it > will stimulate some discussion or give you some perspectives . > Your Lagnas are 5/9 and Moons are 5/9 which is excellent .All being > in fire signs you'll have a firey compatibility .Your Jupiter Bhukti > can give better support to marriage than the previous Mars and Rahu > ones .There was probably a lot of fighting with previous husband in > the middle of 2000 .Your nakshatra compatibility is 19 out of 36 . > Both charts could support marriage but the firey energy will have to > be managed carefully . > best of luck > Nicholas > > - > Ashvin > gjlist > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:32 PM > [GJ] Help Needed > > > Namaste Everyone, > > I need help.I am divorcee.My first marriage last only for few months. > I have a proposal from a boy.Should I marry this person. > This are Birth information for us:- > > Mine(Girl) > Date of birth: October 3rd, 1972 > Place:- City-Suva, Country-Fiji > Time: 8:27pm > His > Date of Birth: November 1st, 1973 > Place:- City-Suva, Country-Fiji > Time: 2:15am > > Many thanks to you all in advance. > > Shamilta Singh. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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