Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Dear Christopher Do you still feel January 9 is a trigger date or have you modified your perspective? Thank you OneLove Christopher Kevill wrote: Hello: Just thought I'd follow up on some of the points made in the previous post and apply them to the eclipse to come. Using parallax Moon position for Dec 14 2001 for Washington DC the eclipse occurs at 5:08:17. This produces an Asc 5Ge27 and MC 13Aq10. Right away, you notice that lagnesh Mercury 4Sg17 closely aspects the Asc and is also conjunct Ketu 3Sg29. A severe affliction to be sure and suggesting further terrorist attacks. Mars 10Aq10 is close to the MC but still more than 2 degrees from exact. Perhaps they won't be clearly violent as the WTC was, and more insidious like a bioterror attack. Also notice that 12L Venus 21Sc51 is exactly conjunct Pluto 21Sc37. A devasting loss is clearly at hand and again, we have a Scorpio signature in the 6th house here reaffirming a secret attack. As has been mentioned before, Scorpio may be the closest sign representing disease and chemical attack. As for when it might occur, transiting Mars will exactly square the eclipse on January 9 2002. This may not be as powerful a trigger since Mars isn't a clearly implicated in the eclipse chart itself. Turning to the geocentric chart Dec 14 2001 3:46:45 pm for Washington DC, Asc 14Ta58 and MC 22Cp00. What strikes me immediately is that transiting retrograde Saturn will conjunct this Ascendant exactly on Jan 11. While Mars is a classic trigger, I know that other planets may act as triggers as well. Saturn's proximity to an angle in this chart appears to be noteworthy and serves to deepen the effect of the event. Also important is that the lagnesh Venus is now being crushed by it's exact Pluto conjunction. This isn't a good chart either then. It may be worth investigating if this Jan 9th event will be the trigger that causes the stock market to fall. This idea comes from a prediction made by Richard Houck several years ago about a stock market crash occurring on Jan 26 2002. He cited the Uranus ingress into Aquarius as a major factor there. I have corroborated the timing using the NASDAQ chart(Feb 8 1971 10.00 am, NY, NY). Without doubt, there will be a sharp downturn in stocks at that time but if there is a major attack or military setback around the 9th, then two weeks is long time to wait for the market response. Perhaps the NYSE will close for some time after the event on the 9th as it did following the WTC attack. It's worth remembering that this stock crash may not be the direct result of another attack, but may be triggered by setbacks for the armed forces overseas or the overthrow of a moderate Islamic government(eg Pakistan, as suggested previously) by radicals. Both could be sufficient causes of a sharp selloff. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Dear OneLove, I'm not in the custom of corresponding with pseudonyms. That said, I note the Jan 9th date is a bit early for the hits in Bush's chart -- they don't quite mesh. Oh well. As the French say: on s'engage, et on voit. Chris At 03:23 AM 1/9/02 +0000, OneLove wrote: >Dear Christopher > >Do you still feel January 9 is a trigger date or have you modified your >perspective? > >Thank you > >OneLove > >Christopher Kevill wrote: > >Hello: > >Just thought I'd follow up on some of the points made in the previous >post >and apply them to the eclipse to come. Using parallax Moon position for > >Dec 14 2001 for Washington DC the eclipse occurs at 5:08:17. This >produces >an Asc 5Ge27 and MC 13Aq10. Right away, you notice that lagnesh >Mercury >4Sg17 closely aspects the Asc and is also conjunct Ketu 3Sg29. A severe > >affliction to be sure and suggesting further terrorist attacks. Mars >10Aq10 is close to the MC but still more than 2 degrees from exact. >Perhaps they won't be clearly violent as the WTC was, and more insidious > >like a bioterror attack. Also notice that 12L Venus 21Sc51 is exactly >conjunct Pluto 21Sc37. A devasting loss is clearly at hand and again, >we >have a Scorpio signature in the 6th house here reaffirming a secret >attack. > As has been mentioned before, Scorpio may be the closest sign >representing >disease and chemical attack. > >As for when it might occur, transiting Mars will exactly square the >eclipse >on January 9 2002. This may not be as powerful a trigger since Mars >isn't >a clearly implicated in the eclipse chart itself. > >Turning to the geocentric chart Dec 14 2001 3:46:45 pm for Washington >DC, >Asc 14Ta58 and MC 22Cp00. What strikes me immediately is that >transiting >retrograde Saturn will conjunct this Ascendant exactly on Jan 11. While >Mars is a classic trigger, I know that other planets may act as triggers >as >well. Saturn's proximity to an angle in this chart appears to be >noteworthy and serves to deepen the effect of the event. Also important >is >that the lagnesh Venus is now being crushed by it's exact Pluto >conjunction. This isn't a good chart either then. > >It may be worth investigating if this Jan 9th event will be the trigger >that causes the stock market to fall. This idea comes from a prediction > >made by Richard Houck several years ago about a stock market crash >occurring on Jan 26 2002. He cited the Uranus ingress into Aquarius as >a >major factor there. I have corroborated the timing using the NASDAQ >chart(Feb 8 1971 10.00 am, NY, NY). Without doubt, there will be a >sharp >downturn in stocks at that time but if there is a major attack or >military >setback around the 9th, then two weeks is long time to wait for the >market >response. Perhaps the NYSE will close for some time after the event on >the >9th as it did following the WTC attack. > >It's worth remembering that this stock crash may not be the direct >result >of another attack, but may be triggered by setbacks for the armed forces > >overseas or the overthrow of a moderate Islamic government(eg Pakistan, >as >suggested previously) by radicals. Both could be sufficient causes of a > >sharp selloff. > >Chris > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 The day was not without events. U.S Marine tanker with 7 people crashed today in afghanistan. According to msnbc: quote " If all crew members did, in fact, die in the crash, it will be the deadliest single incident involving U.S. forces since the United States began its attack on Afghanistan in October.".unquote. Sunita. >Christopher Kevill <ckevill >gjlist >gjlist,gjlist >Re: [GJ] January 9 Trigger Date >Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:27:33 -0500 > >Dear OneLove, > >I'm not in the custom of corresponding with pseudonyms. That said, I note >the Jan 9th date is a bit early for the hits in Bush's chart -- they don't >quite mesh. Oh well. As the French say: on s'engage, et on voit. > >Chris > > > At 03:23 AM 1/9/02 +0000, OneLove wrote: > >Dear Christopher > > > >Do you still feel January 9 is a trigger date or have you modified your > >perspective? > > > >Thank you > > > >OneLove > > > >Christopher Kevill wrote: > > > >Hello: > > > >Just thought I'd follow up on some of the points made in the previous > >post > >and apply them to the eclipse to come. Using parallax Moon position for > > > >Dec 14 2001 for Washington DC the eclipse occurs at 5:08:17. This > >produces > >an Asc 5Ge27 and MC 13Aq10. Right away, you notice that lagnesh > >Mercury > >4Sg17 closely aspects the Asc and is also conjunct Ketu 3Sg29. A severe > > > >affliction to be sure and suggesting further terrorist attacks. Mars > >10Aq10 is close to the MC but still more than 2 degrees from exact. > >Perhaps they won't be clearly violent as the WTC was, and more insidious > > > >like a bioterror attack. Also notice that 12L Venus 21Sc51 is exactly > >conjunct Pluto 21Sc37. A devasting loss is clearly at hand and again, > >we > >have a Scorpio signature in the 6th house here reaffirming a secret > >attack. > > As has been mentioned before, Scorpio may be the closest sign > >representing > >disease and chemical attack. > > > >As for when it might occur, transiting Mars will exactly square the > >eclipse > >on January 9 2002. This may not be as powerful a trigger since Mars > >isn't > >a clearly implicated in the eclipse chart itself. > > > >Turning to the geocentric chart Dec 14 2001 3:46:45 pm for Washington > >DC, > >Asc 14Ta58 and MC 22Cp00. What strikes me immediately is that > >transiting > >retrograde Saturn will conjunct this Ascendant exactly on Jan 11. While > >Mars is a classic trigger, I know that other planets may act as triggers > >as > >well. Saturn's proximity to an angle in this chart appears to be > >noteworthy and serves to deepen the effect of the event. Also important > >is > >that the lagnesh Venus is now being crushed by it's exact Pluto > >conjunction. This isn't a good chart either then. > > > >It may be worth investigating if this Jan 9th event will be the trigger > >that causes the stock market to fall. This idea comes from a prediction > > > >made by Richard Houck several years ago about a stock market crash > >occurring on Jan 26 2002. He cited the Uranus ingress into Aquarius as > >a > >major factor there. I have corroborated the timing using the NASDAQ > >chart(Feb 8 1971 10.00 am, NY, NY). Without doubt, there will be a > >sharp > >downturn in stocks at that time but if there is a major attack or > >military > >setback around the 9th, then two weeks is long time to wait for the > >market > >response. Perhaps the NYSE will close for some time after the event on > >the > >9th as it did following the WTC attack. > > > >It's worth remembering that this stock crash may not be the direct > >result > >of another attack, but may be triggered by setbacks for the armed forces > > > >overseas or the overthrow of a moderate Islamic government(eg Pakistan, > >as > >suggested previously) by radicals. Both could be sufficient causes of a > > > >sharp selloff. > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 Rereading my post, I had to wince a few times. It sounds rather alarmist, especially in the relative calm we enjoy today. It still possible of course, but perhaps I shouldn't have put it in such stark terms. Apologies to all who were offended or put off by its tone. You know what, it could be something in South America. Interestingly, Columbia is fighting off a socialist coup while Argentina's new President was the losing Peronist in the last election. Barring another terrorist attack ( God forbid), financial markets could experience an upheaval in either South America or the Middle East due to the price of oil. If, for example, the US went into Iraq, oil markets might not stay stable. It's a very volatile time and I don't blame you for being alarmist. I dread every day. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 Sunita, Thanks for following along with me. Although that incident was unfortunate it really wasn't on the scale I was thinking of when I wrote the original post. The trigger I was thinking of would have to be significant enough for the war to worsen or for the economy to falter. This event I thought would be big enough to trigger the market selloff of Jan 26. It hasn't happened yet so that's one date by the boards. By isolating the 9th, I was attempting to apply, however badly, a western theory of eclipses that focuses on the role of transiting malefic planets to the point of a previous eclipse. Mars past that point yesterday, but without much incident. I still think there will be a stock market drop at the end of this month, but perhaps it won't be triggered by a major war-related event as I thought. It might be a growing sense of gloom around the Argentine situation, or perhaps some Japanese banks might default, etc. In other words, the stock market may react to a finacial, as opposed to, military situation. Rereading my post, I had to wince a few times. It sounds rather alarmist, especially in the relative calm we enjoy today. It still possible of course, but perhaps I shouldn't have put it in such stark terms. Apologies to all who were offended or put off by its tone. Chris At 02:32 AM 1/10/02, Sunita Menon wrote: >The day was not without events. U.S Marine tanker with 7 people crashed >today in afghanistan. According to msnbc: quote " If all crew members did, >in fact, die in the crash, it will be the deadliest single incident >involving U.S. forces since the United States began its attack on >Afghanistan in October.".unquote. >Sunita. > > >>Christopher Kevill <ckevill >>gjlist >>gjlist,gjlist >>Re: [GJ] January 9 Trigger Date >>Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:27:33 -0500 >> >>Dear OneLove, >> >>I'm not in the custom of corresponding with pseudonyms. That said, I note >>the Jan 9th date is a bit early for the hits in Bush's chart -- they don't >>quite mesh. Oh well. As the French say: on s'engage, et on voit. >> >>Chris >> >> >> At 03:23 AM 1/9/02 +0000, OneLove wrote: >> >Dear Christopher >> > >> >Do you still feel January 9 is a trigger date or have you modified your >> >perspective? >> > >> >Thank you >> > >> >OneLove >> > >> >Christopher Kevill wrote: >> > >> >Hello: >> > >> >Just thought I'd follow up on some of the points made in the previous >> >post >> >and apply them to the eclipse to come. Using parallax Moon position for >> > >> >Dec 14 2001 for Washington DC the eclipse occurs at 5:08:17. This >> >produces >> >an Asc 5Ge27 and MC 13Aq10. Right away, you notice that lagnesh >> >Mercury >> >4Sg17 closely aspects the Asc and is also conjunct Ketu 3Sg29. A severe >> > >> >affliction to be sure and suggesting further terrorist attacks. Mars >> >10Aq10 is close to the MC but still more than 2 degrees from exact. >> >Perhaps they won't be clearly violent as the WTC was, and more insidious >> > >> >like a bioterror attack. Also notice that 12L Venus 21Sc51 is exactly >> >conjunct Pluto 21Sc37. A devasting loss is clearly at hand and again, >> >we >> >have a Scorpio signature in the 6th house here reaffirming a secret >> >attack. >> > As has been mentioned before, Scorpio may be the closest sign >> >representing >> >disease and chemical attack. >> > >> >As for when it might occur, transiting Mars will exactly square the >> >eclipse >> >on January 9 2002. This may not be as powerful a trigger since Mars >> >isn't >> >a clearly implicated in the eclipse chart itself. >> > >> >Turning to the geocentric chart Dec 14 2001 3:46:45 pm for Washington >> >DC, >> >Asc 14Ta58 and MC 22Cp00. What strikes me immediately is that >> >transiting >> >retrograde Saturn will conjunct this Ascendant exactly on Jan 11. While >> >Mars is a classic trigger, I know that other planets may act as triggers >> >as >> >well. Saturn's proximity to an angle in this chart appears to be >> >noteworthy and serves to deepen the effect of the event. Also important >> >is >> >that the lagnesh Venus is now being crushed by it's exact Pluto >> >conjunction. This isn't a good chart either then. >> > >> >It may be worth investigating if this Jan 9th event will be the trigger >> >that causes the stock market to fall. This idea comes from a prediction >> > >> >made by Richard Houck several years ago about a stock market crash >> >occurring on Jan 26 2002. He cited the Uranus ingress into Aquarius as >> >a >> >major factor there. I have corroborated the timing using the NASDAQ >> >chart(Feb 8 1971 10.00 am, NY, NY). Without doubt, there will be a >> >sharp >> >downturn in stocks at that time but if there is a major attack or >> >military >> >setback around the 9th, then two weeks is long time to wait for the >> >market >> >response. Perhaps the NYSE will close for some time after the event on >> >the >> >9th as it did following the WTC attack. >> > >> >It's worth remembering that this stock crash may not be the direct >> >result >> >of another attack, but may be triggered by setbacks for the armed forces >> > >> >overseas or the overthrow of a moderate Islamic government(eg Pakistan, >> >as >> >suggested previously) by radicals. Both could be sufficient causes of a >> > >> >sharp selloff. >> > >> >Chris >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >: gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of is subject to >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >>: gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> > > > > >_______________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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